2022 Mac Pro Rumored to Use Intel's Ice Lake Xeon W-3300 Chips

[MacRumors]

A new Mac Pro that's coming in 2022 is set to use Intel's Ice Lake Xeon W-3300 workstation chips, according to an Intel leaker that WCCFtech says has offered reliable information on Intel Xeon chips in the past.

Intel's W-3300 Ice Lake CPUs are set to launch in the near future, and there have already been signs of new Ice Lake SP processors in the Xcode 13 beta. Intel has said that these chips offer "advanced performance, security, efficiency, and built-in AI acceleration to handle IoT workloads and more powerful AI."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419638932208164865

Ice Lake chips for the Mac Pro would offer up to 38 cores and 76 threads, with the Xeon W-3775 positioned as Intel's top chip in the lineup. This top of the line chip features 57MB of cache and a 4.0GHz clock speed.

While Apple is transitioning its Mac lineup to Apple silicon and is developing a version of the Mac Pro that will run an Apple silicon chip, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has said that Apple will also update the Intel Mac Pro.

Apple is working on a smaller Mac Pro that's about half the size of the original and that is expected to include an Apple silicon chip, but alongside it, the company is also developing a new version of the current Mac Pro.

The Intel-based Mac Pro that's in the works with Intel's W-3300 Ice Lake chips could be one of the last Intel Macs that Apple will develop. Apple has already begun transitioning the iMac, MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and MacBook Air lines to Apple silicon.

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[Serban55]

So Mark is right for now...there will be an Intel Mac Pro and also the smaller arm Mac Pro

 

[DHagan4755]

They will sell dozens of these things.

 

[Wildkraut]

They will sell dozens of these things.

12 or 24 or 36 ?

 

[bsbeamer]

New socket = new logic board, which means it might be upgradeable down the line if Apple abandons the Intel version of MP8,1 beyond 2024.

The real question for the Apple Silicon version - what is the GPU situation?

 

[Danoc]

Even if the tech is amazing, buying an Intel Mac in 2022 seems odd.

 

[chucker23n1]

So, why not sooner?

Is Intel once again taking months to actually ramp up production, long after they claim the product is "released"?

Or does Apple want to launch this upgrade in sync with the new ARM-based Mac Pro, as an "oh, BTW, we also have an Intel option" afterthought?

 

[poked]

Why not transition to silicon? Or is it because they haven’t figured out the GPU tech?

 

[De4our]

A new Mac Pro that's coming in 2022 is set to use Intel's Ice Lake Xeon W-3300 workstation chips, according to an Intel leaker that WCCFtech says has offered reliable information on Intel Xeon chips in the past.

Intel's W-3300 Ice Lake CPUs are set to launch in the near future, and there have already been signs of new Ice Lake SP processors in the Xcode 13 beta. Intel has said that these chips offer "advanced performance, security, efficiency, and built-in AI acceleration to handle IoT workloads and more powerful AI."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419638932208164865

Ice Lake chips for the Mac Pro would offer up to 38 cores and 76 threads, with the Xeon W-3775 positioned as Intel's top chip in the lineup. This top of the line chip features 57MB of cache and a 4.0GHz clock speed.

While Apple is transitioning its Mac lineup to Apple silicon and is developing a version of the Mac Pro that will run an Apple silicon chip, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has said that Apple will also update the Intel Mac Pro.

Apple is working on a smaller Mac Pro that's about half the size of the original and that is expected to include an Apple silicon chip, but alongside it, the company is also developing a new version of the current Mac Pro.

The Intel-based Mac Pro that's in the works with Intel's W-3300 Ice Lake chips could be one of the last Intel Macs that Apple will develop. Apple has already begun transitioning the iMac, MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and MacBook Air lines to Apple silicon.

Article Link: 2022 Mac Pro Rumored to Use Intel's Ice Lake Xeon W-3300 Chips

I’m not extremely well versed in Intel’s chipset and motherboard socket compatibility, as a current Mac Pro owner is there any chance in hell I can swap one of the new Ice Lake processors in? If not, and this would be extremely extra but I’m curious, would it be possible to swap the motherboards?

I have the 16-core, it’s no slouch but I was considering swapping in the 28-core as .R3D video files eat those 16 cores like they’re not even there. I assume an equivalent chip from Ice Lake would be faster and more efficient…

 

[nebulosan]

Why not transition to silicon? Or is it because they haven’t figured out the GPU tech?

Because Apple is DOOMED,

 

[FasterQuieter]

Spending that much money on a chip that is already losing support for new features seems unwise.

 

[Realityck]

Even if the tech is amazing, buying an Intel Mac in 2022 seems odd.

Because businesses are still owning a lot of x86 Mac software. The transition is not meant to be a immediate end to what Apple sells to companies as solutions. Common sense requires high performance ARM workstation/server products to be introduced that sways enterprise customers to migrating, not heaving their intel based business solutions overboard.

 

[poked]

Because Apple is DOOMED,

Care to elaborate? This market is a bit weird, I can’t imagine you want this machine for anything besides server capacity?

 

[Analog Kid]

Way out of my league, but glad Apple is creating a second gen Intel MP for continuity’s sake. Shows a bit more ongoing commitment to the line than perhaps people have felt in the past…

 

[Keymaster]

This probably makes sense business wise, the Mac Pro isn't meant for the average consumer, and businesses have invested in lots of software that's Intel based and probably want to stay with that until they really come up to speed on the new Apple software and chips. Plus, Apple will need to develop a super fast processor and computer that can handle multiple processor setups to handle the tasks the Mac Pro is built for. All of that takes time, and Apple is still at the beginning of making their desktop systems.

The small Mac will probably come with a single processor setup, and with some flexibility for the GPU, RAM, and disk upgrades; that makes a lot of sense for a home Mac that can do some heavy duty stuff like gaming. That will be a really nice machine when it lands, hopefully next year sometime.

 

[imran5720]

am i the only one who thinks this is bad news? that means M series chips wont be powerful enough anytime soon

 

[rpmurray]

So disappointing! All this buildup for an M(whatever) Mac Pro and we're stuck with a lame Intel refresh.

 

[adamw]

This is definitely bad news, unless Apple also offers a smaller, powerful Mac Pro based on Apple Silicon. Not many people will likely want an Intel based Mac Pro.

 

[Ethosik]

Even if the tech is amazing, buying an Intel Mac in 2022 seems odd.

This is good for Intel support on macOS.

 

[xraydoc]

Why not transition to silicon? Or is it because they haven’t figured out the GPU tech?

They will, but it'll still take Apple more time to develop a home-grown solution that can match a 32-core Xeon with 128GB of RAM and four dedicated desktop GPUs. I would wager that the next Intel Mac Pro revision will be the last Intel Mac Pro.

 

[poematik13]

This is very reassuring news. Hopefully it can still be on Catalina too. So many pro apps/workflows are still not big sur comaptible or optimized

 

[Realityck]

So disappointing! All this buildup for an M(whatever) Mac Pro and we're stuck with an lame Intel refresh.

You knew Apple is likely to continue to sell intel based Mac Pro's per WWDC 2020 statements, because there is no announced ARM SoC for workstation/server grade computing solution yet. Then you also have the rumor that TSMC has 100 million A15's associated with iPhones. So how's everything suppose to be accomplished at once?

 

[Ethosik]

So disappointing! All this buildup for an M(whatever) Mac Pro and we're stuck with a lame Intel refresh.

Tim Cook explicitly stated they had more Intel systems coming. I’m sure we would have seen these this year if not for COVID and the chip shortage.

 

[lederermc]

Even if the tech is amazing, buying an Intel Mac in 2022 seems odd.

I have heard that "scientific" code, where the exact same answer needs to be reproduced for a given stream of calculation, is not so easily converted between CPU architectures. I worked in computer simulation of fluid flow and spent a lot of time investigating differences in answers from different compilers on the same CPU.

 

[TallGuyGT]

I can’t wait to spend $25,000 on a system that will barely outrun the 2022 MacBook Air! /s

In all seriousness, this would be more appealing (especially if released this year) for its ability to run x86 software that hasn’t transitioned, and importantly for some - Windows virtual machines.