Probably not. Intel is still missing key hardware to power the AI stuff in macOS.
I guess this will be a special option dedicated to those movie studios just like how dual G5 was.
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2022 Mac Pro Rumored to Use Intel's Ice Lake Xeon W-3300 Chips
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I guess this will be a special option dedicated to those movie studios just like how dual G5 was.
Not bad news at all. This is about Apple's commitment to ongoing support for the Mac Pro customers whose needs are very different from general consumers. They need long term support and are often running very custom software that is designed specifically for the Intel chips. Their workflows will take longer to transition to Apple Silicon. Updating the CPUs in those is more of a spec bump to a line that they will probably continue to sell for a few more years.
This doesn't mean that we won't be seeing new Apple Silicon Mac Pros released next year in parallel. That transition will take more time and needs more overlap for this market.
I highly doubt this considering apple said Rosetta 2 will be dead within two years.
Good luck trying to access 768GB of RAM and something like 32 simultaneous threads on a 2022 Air.
You can scale x86 as much as any other platform, just not in a small low power box (https://home.cern/science/computing/data-centre). There is however a point where it makes much more sense to offload work to the cloud or local data center instead of having that power in a single box under the desk.
Thank you. It’s refreshing to read some business logic in this comment section. I grow tired of reading the ‘in my moms basement at 36’ Apple fan boy commentsBecause businesses are still owning a lot of x86 Mac software. The transition is not meant to be a immediate end to what Apple sells to companies as solutions. Common sense requires high performance ARM workstation/server products to be introduced that sways enterprise customers to migrating, not heaving their intel based business solutions overboard.
I think you missed the “/s” and “in all seriousness” in my post. I guess sarcasm is lost on some.
The Intel Mac Pro will offer lots of PCI-e slots which Pro users need to add functionality to the system - video I/o, network connectivity, audio DSP, GPU options etc.
At the moment that is not possible with Apple Silicon, hopefully future chips will allow add that option 🤞🏻
At the moment that is not possible with Apple Silicon, hopefully future chips will allow add that option 🤞🏻
Well, not sure what they're doing—maybe video/animation? But anything that can speed up work is worth the spend, particularly if the budgets for upgrades are coming through anyway.
Just to clarify; I personally wouldn't spend a penny on an Intel Mac at this point. But I'm just an individual user, in music/audio, and really don't mind missing a few plugins—the only holdout I'm concerned about right now is Altiverb (whose dev work always seems to be insanely slow)... I think, given the impressive performance we've seen from AS—not to mention the strong initiative Adobe have taken—developers are pretty motivated to get AS versions out, so I don't think the transition will be too painful.
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What many people here just not seem to be getting is that a lot of pro software and hardware needs to be adapted for AS. Think of software like ProTools and all the third-party plug-ins and hardware which need to compatible before you can swap an Intel Mac Pro for an AS.
They should just put the M1X in a Mac Pro chassis and be done with it. Mac bloggers, YouTubers and most of the people on this forum won't notice and they'll be performing backflips to say how great it is.
You cannot swap CPUs, as Ice Lake will use a new socket and probably a newer chipset. Intel has a very annoying habit of changing out socket sizes after 2 generations of CPUs, especially with their consumer CPUs.
Moving to Ice Lake will require a motherboard swap, not something Apple is noted for offering.
I'm pretty sure Apple did not announce this and you are confusing this with speculation on the internet. Do you have a source?
They did remove the ability to run Rosetta 2 in 11.3 for some regions, probably due to licensing or export restrictions
Rosetta 2 will eventually go away just like Rosetta but nothing has been announced as far I am aware
No, it most certainly does not mean that. The Mac Pro is high-end machine for a few specific markets, and there are no doubt companies running software on it that won't be fully ready to run on Apple Silicon for a while. This won't be instead of an M-series Mac Pro, I expect Apple will release at least one more Intel-based Mac Pro, and also, at some point, release the M-series Mac Pro, and that they'll overlap for quite some time. If you've got teams doing, say, film editing on Mac Pros, and you need one more machine, you don't want Apple saying, "oh, we only have the M2 version now, just ditch some of your workflow."
Apple can make the M-series chips as powerful as they want, since they don't have to rely on anyone else for that - no more cajoling Intel to add feature X or hit spec Y that you want.
It won’t be running Catalina, most likely it will have Monterey pre-installed when it’s released. You and others in your industry need to start leaning on those devs to get their act together and update to include Big Sur/Monterey support. You pay big bucks for software from companies that drag their asses not holding up their end of the bargain. Let them know just how bad they’re doing.
Barely outrun an M1 MBA, now that's funny. Even my medium end i9 outruns my M1 MBA easily, and this new chip blows my i9 away. (The i9 machine also costs about $24000 less.
It is possible with Apple Silicon now.
M1 already have 4x PCIe Gen4 lanes.
It's really easy for them to put more controllers to get much more lanes. Even Amazon can put 128 PCIe Gen4 lanes on their Graviton2 ARM CPUs.
No Intel i9 can outruns M1 MBA on single core performance, which was what Intel loved to marketing when they have lead in that field.Barely outrun an M1 MBA, now that's funny. Even my medium end i9 outruns my M1 MBA easily, and this new chip blows my i9 away. (The i9 machine also costs about $24000 less.
I have a feeling Apple will still use Intel chips in the next Mac Pro. The PowerMac G5 was the last to move to Intel and honestly, Apple's got a HUGE task ahead of them when it comes to the Mac Pro.
The good news, is if they stick with Intel the current models will (fingers crossed) come down in price enough for me to justify spending near 5 figures for one.
The good news, is if they stick with Intel the current models will (fingers crossed) come down in price enough for me to justify spending near 5 figures for one.