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I said "lease." $0 down 36-months 10k miles

$477/month - 2023 RWD Model 3 ($1,172 due at signing)
$529/month - 2023 base Corolla ($725 due at signing)

The Tesla is $1,425 cheaper (before taxes) over three years than that base Corolla in Palo Alto, CA.
Now compare Corolla on lease for 10k miles 36 months.
 
The Ford F-150 Lightning gets 300 miles of range with a 131 kWh battery.
Sorry but less than 100 miles towing anything quickly takes BEV trucks out of the running for me. Trying to find a fast charger that is working is also difficult in rural areas.
 
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Which design team thought putting coin holders for pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters was a useful use of space? Long gone are the days that anything less than a quarter is useful for anything while commuting.

Coin holders in center console is where coins go to die. :)
 
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Just get a carlink wireless carplay adapter.

The 2019 Lexus GX DOES NOT support CarPlay, even wired, so a Wireless CarPlay Adapter does @M5RahuL no good...

14”, a full review and not one times I read the resolution: always 800x600?
It’s me or with a 14” full screen it’s hard to be focused on the road?
Ok, it’s a pickup, nothing interesting to drive, potentially a weapon for its weight drove by distracted driver, but what’s the limit? 60” is enough?

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And no. It is not distracting at all. It is below your field of view when driving.
 
Which design team thought putting coin holders for pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters was a useful use of space? Long gone are the days that anything less than a quarter is useful for anything while commuting.
I'm assuming the same design team that copied the interior design bits from a 1989 GMC truck. I can hear the creaks from touching the hollow plastic trim just by looking at the photos !
 
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The factory Qi Wireless Charger is known to be absolute trash.

Signed,
2022 Toyota Tundra Platinum Owner
20,000 miles and counting
March 6, 2023 will be one year of ownership



It can.

Just curious. What type of MPG are you getting with the i-Force Max HV Setup? I have a friend with one. They average around 16mpg with a medium right foot? They state they had better MPG in their V-8 Tundra?

No Toyota hate here just curious. I drive a 22 RAV4 HV Premium and absolutely love it.
 
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The 2019 Lexus GX DOES NOT support CarPlay, even wired, so a Wireless CarPlay Adapter does @M5RahuL no good...



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And no. It is not distracting at all. It is below your field of view when driving.

I've had CarPlay in car for years, in a lower position than this one, it's quite distracting, despite being a smaller screen, especially at night.
Glad to know that someone starts entering proper resolutions instead of VGA: having huge screens with poor resolutions is bad.
 
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I said "lease." $0 down 36-months 10k miles

$477/month - 2023 RWD Model 3 ($1,172 due at signing)
$529/month - 2023 base Corolla ($725 due at signing)

The Tesla is $1,425 cheaper (before taxes) over three years than that base Corolla in Palo Alto, CA.
I know you said lease. I use drive-off costs, MSRP. I'm getting a lower lease here from Toyota on the east coast. $346. Not sure why it would cost that much more over there, but that's a good reason to use MSRP because it's national.

Regardless, I am pro-EV, but costs alone aren't enough to get everyone to drive an EV. Many people aren't close enough to charging stations, many people don't have level 2 chargers in their house, etc. Toyota isn't doomed any more than Apple is doomed. They all have their niche.
 
Do you listen radio in your car? In that case CarPlay is more or less the same. Personally car is the only place where listening podcasts is good for me. Other things (e.g. messages ) can be notified shutdown if you want to
Sometimes, but not as much as I used to (and that's the fault of bad programming or choices). But I also don't believe passive listening to a Tom Petty song is on the same level as all this "beep-ity, boop-ity" stuff, and the visual aspect of it all. Yes, your "hands are free", but your eyes/mind aren't. They're not 100% on the road.

And you kinda make my point with your last sentence: "other things can be shutdown IF you want to".

How many people want to? That's my point. I see people constantly screwing with their phones while driving. This morning, even, 5-6 times, twice on the freeway at 65mph+. Am I to believe these people would somehow focus on the road if they had all this stuff? They're not going to change their behavior/habits. It'll take a tragedy for many of them.

I DO NOT touch my phone in my car. Ever. Driving is serious business. I'm usually in a position to pull into a parking lot if something truly pressing comes up, and I have. But I think about how many people have wrapped themselves around phone poles over "wassup?", "OMG, did you hear about Jacob and Chelsea?" and the like.

Lest anyone think I'm somehow directed my concern toward "yoof", I'm not. Sadly, I see people in my group - 40's-60's - doing this all the time, including most of my friends and relatives. Everyone. It's powerful stuff, I get that...24/7 reachability/communication. But it's a "quantity vs. quality" thing in my mind. Some of that stuff can't wait until you're not driving in a crowded parking lot or on I-24?

This stuff has changed the culture, forever. And it's not all 100% for the good/positive. I see more distracted, lousy drivers. So I see stuff like this story as just more of the same, building on that. Because most people are going to monkey around with this stuff when they drive. Looking at it, checking it, etc.

It's never been about "hands free". You're still visually/mentally distracted. Stuff like this doesn't help that. Stuff like this isn't even necessary. We've just convinced ourselves otherwise. One of those "just because we can, does it always mean we should?" kind of things.

I'll die from something, but it will not be from a car wreck of my own doing because I'm messing around with any sort of device or screen. I'll wager my very soul on that. As safe and defensive of a driver as I've always been (early 50's, zero accidents), I'm having to do triple-duty these days because of all the clowns driving around with their phones, not watching the road, drifting into other lanes, running stop signs, zipping through grocery store parking lots with their heads tilted down and completely unaware of anything/anyone in their path, etc.

It's exhausting. And now a big 14" screen is part of the mix. Yikes...yes, that's exactly what we need.
 
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The wireless charger issue isn’t caused by the camera bump. Instead it’s caused by the MagSafe magnets in the phone. This is a common issue on recent years Toyotas with a Qi charger.

Toyota uses a Panasonic qi charger part that is ‘designed’ for car integration. It uses a grid of magnetic flux sensors to detect where the phone coil is. A motor then moves the charging pad’s coil to the right spots. In theory if the car hits a big pothole on the road and the phone shifts, it can compensate.

In practice, the sensors pick up the MagSafe magnets and think it’s the phone’s qi charging coil. So it tries to charge there, and then stop with the blinking light due to misalignment. In short that Panasonic charger is a piece of hot garbage. I’ve seen some mods on Toyota forums where people pull it out, and wire a car 12v usb c charger + MagSafe puck under the plastic instead.
 
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I'm surprised to see just MPH for the speedometer. I know it's mostly useless in the US, but here in Canada, all speedometers include both KM/H and MPH on the same dial. Come on America, it's time to get metric! 🤣
I'm sure you can change it in settings. I can change some of the units in my settings.
 
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Which design team thought putting coin holders for pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters was a useful use of space? Long gone are the days that anything less than a quarter is useful for anything while commuting.

Coin holders in center console is where coins go to die. :)
Wish you could load them and if you went to DT somewhere, you could type the amount and it would dispense it into your hand
 
I'm surprised to see just MPH for the speedometer. I know it's mostly useless in the US, but here in Canada, all speedometers include both KM/H and MPH on the same dial. Come on America, it's time to get metric! 🤣
Thats mechanical gauge thinking. On a digital speedo, there is no reason to show KM/H if you don't want it; bet there is a toggle in settings.
 
Just curious. What type of MPG are you getting with the i-Force Max HV Setup? I have a friend with one. They average around 16mpg with a medium right foot? They state they had better MPG in their V-8 Tundra?

No Toyota hate here just curious. I drive a 22 RAV4 HV Premium and absolutely love it.

I have a Non-Hybrid and average 17-18MPG. I will say that for the first 5,000 or so miles that it was worse. Takes a little while for the V35A-FTS to really break-in. I would also suggest that they follow this thread on Tundras.com for any TSBs that they might have: https://www.tundras.com/threads/upd...al-service-bulletin-thread-usa-mexico.117669/

I also run 93 exclusively when in TX. I run the highest available when out of state.

We average 13-14MPG on our 2020 Platinum.
 
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Sorry but less than 100 miles towing anything quickly takes BEV trucks out of the running for me. Trying to find a fast charger that is working is also difficult in rural areas.
For sure. But there's plenty of demand for an EV pickups that doesn't need to tow until the tech improves to reach 300-500 miles of towing. Lots of contractors can use them to haul their tools to job sites and power spider boxes to power them.

Lots of EV pickup owners can use the fuel savings to rent a gasser for the few times a year the want to tow a boat or trailer.
 
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That's exactly what I did. That's the lease cost for both the Corolla and Model 3 for 36 months and 10k miles.
Corolla is not 529 on lease, I see around 310-350. If some one is leasing Corolla at 529, needs to get their brain checked.
 
Corolla is not 529 on lease, I see around 310-350. If some one is leasing Corolla at 529, needs to get their brain checked.
It is in Palo Alto. I posted a screen shot of the Toyota of Palo Also leasing page in my post. Click on it and see for yourself. For comparison, Haley Toyota of Roanoke, VA has one for $450/month for $0 down, 36months, and 10k miles.
 

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It is in Palo Alto. I posted a screen shot of the Toyota of Palo Also leasing page in my post. Click on it and see for yourself. For comparison, Haley Toyota of Roanoke, VA has one for $450/month for $0 down, 36months, and 10k miles.
What site are you using, this is from Magnussens Palo Alto Toyota. Heck, if you paid 550 a month for 36 months on a corolla, thats almost paying 70-80% of the total price. I can get a BMW i4 for under $500 a month on lease, and lot of other luxury cars. You need to ditch that site which is quoting you 550 for a freaking toyota corolla.
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What site are you using, this is from Magnussens Palo Alto Toyota. Heck, if you paid 550 a month for 36 months on a corolla, thats almost paying 70-80% of the total price. I can get a BMW i4 for under $500 a month on lease, and lot of other luxury cars. You need to ditch that site which is quoting you 550 for a freaking toyota corolla.
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toyotapaloalto.com, same site as you did.

Edit: You can't use the generic lease calculator. You have to select a car that's in inventory, then click on the "Estimate Payments" button for that car.

Edit 2: And no you can't lease an i4 for under $500 if you keep the same $0 down comparison I've been using. Using an apples to apples comparison, the cheapest lease on Autonation for an i4 is $673/month. And thats for an eDrive35 with only up to 256 miles of range. That's a joke compared to a Tesla Model 3.
 
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