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$23,397 Mac Pro
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Plenty of people can utilize the power, the real issue is that you can get the same performance for half the price.
True. I believe e among others alluded to doubts about my sanity when I said I only buy Apple RAM and storage, but apart from the not inconsiderable inferiority of the replacement service when compared to Dell or HP, I pay for the convenience of a one-stop warranty replacement, especially when in the case of Apple gear they go wrong so often when used in an actually 'Pro' environment - and putting in third-party stuff just complicates matters. When you're not in a position of having to nickel-and-dime everything, believe me it will be something you're happy to pay.
Also, a Dell or HP in a similar configuration actually wouldn't cost a whole lot less. It might even cost a tiny bit more. But that's a small price to pay for actual usable quality all around, not simply in terms of 'quality' for those who think only with their eyes.
Hmm, buying a top of the line Mac, using it for Windows, money no option....
make your switchover a little more secret Mr B Gates!
Seriously though, if i had that kind of money floating around i'd pick one of these up aswell, good on you i say
make your switchover a little more secret Mr B Gates!
Seriously though, if i had that kind of money floating around i'd pick one of these up aswell, good on you i say
That's just in general old chap
My sanity these days is nailed down as it were. It's a lot better than the fluid version that most people have
heh...My sanity these days is nailed down as it were. It's a lot better than the fluid version that most people have
Seriously though, I can understand paying big premiums for parts to have a single point of contact upon a failure, for business this is great.
For the vast majority of home users though it is insanity to pay Apple the prices they charge for RAM/disks.
I think that if anything, for home users who're truly in it for the Apple philosophy, it makes absolute sense to buy Apple RAM / storage.
I hope you're blessed enough to take the hit when a faster Mac Pro comes out! (sometime between now and June 2009, possibly two updates). Sure sounds a sweet system. Don't see why there'd be much upkeep, bar keeping it dustfree...
Scenario A: How does a significant percentage of the average Apple user - who if this forum and my encounters with others is anything to go by, actually almost celebrates the fact that s/he doesn't have any idea of what they're doing - troubleshoot third-party RAM / storage issues when their Applecare won't help?
I've touched on the two extremes nature of the typical Apple user before. You've got the guy in the scenario above, or the nerd upon nerds. I'm sure the latter would feel it was a waste of money (since he has lots of time to waste fixing stuff that needn't be broken in the first place) but what about the former?
My sanity these days is nailed down as it were. It's a lot better than the fluid version that most people have
Agreed. Hold your breath if you ever travel over to the iPod/iTunes/iPhone forums. You might just breath in that fluid and loose your sanity
I'd say it's the opposite. The vast majority of users love the fact that they can go to the Apple store and have some 20 yr old fresh out of college art major that never made it repair their machine and all parts associated.
Those that know are probably better off getting the 3rd party stuff for half price, then replacing it when it breaks for slightly less after some time has passed.
Besides, the only time when RAM and disks will effect the majority of users is with the Mac Pro. And most professional outfits just don't want to be bothered with doing the repair themselves (because they don't know how) or have IT departments that don't want to bother with the repair either. On a Mac Pro, whose MB is around $1300 I have heard, getting the Apple Care is a must. Since as Sesshi said it's a matter of time before it fails.
Same with the laptops, and pretty much all of Apple's products save for the iPhone, whose Apple Care is ridiculous both on price and service. It's actually quite surprising to hear someone that kinda gets it Sesshi.
p.s. Only Mac Pro/Xserve (flat Mac Pro) RAM is worth paying extra for Apple Care. Every other machine can go 3rd party.
Come on though, in this case it is $7,100 for Applecare. You could buy 3 extra spare sets of memory and still have money left over. Heck you could buy a whole other backup Mac Pro nearly if you went 3rd party on extras.
True, but for those that are maxing out the RAM of their Mac Pro for real work, it's worth it.
Most users don't need more than 4GB. Maybe even 8GBs. Not saying that going the 3rd party route with a Mac Pro isn't recommended, just that once you spend $4000 for the machine, then another $1500 for 8GBs of RAM, i want all the coverage from the maker that I can get.
There are certainly people who buy things like this. I think the problem here is the original poster doesn't really know what hardware he needs for the task and has seen that he can afford the top Mac Pro, but has gone about using this community to his advantage the wrong way.
Again, if he really had the money to blow without concern he wouldn't think for a second about the "technical maintenance" the rep mentioned. He'd simply pay someone to deal with it and not think twice.
I'll buy one. Then I'll fire up iTunes, and buy every song in the catalog. After all, I'm blessed enough to be able to afford it, and it's nice to know that I can listen to any song I want whenever I feel like it. Does Apple sell extra hard drives at their BTO prices? I think I'd need quite a few TB drives to store all those songs. Maybe some top-of-the-line XServes.
In times like these, I remember that old addage...
" A Fool and his money are easily departed".
With that said, you dont need that computer. Lets be realistic. All you want it for is the shock value that comes with being able to tell your friends that you spent 23k on a computer. In a 4 or 5 years that machine wont be able to compete with the new machines at that time. You will never see that money again. You might as well just toss that cash out on the street as you would never see it again anyhow...
" A Fool and his money are easily departed".
With that said, you dont need that computer. Lets be realistic. All you want it for is the shock value that comes with being able to tell your friends that you spent 23k on a computer. In a 4 or 5 years that machine wont be able to compete with the new machines at that time. You will never see that money again. You might as well just toss that cash out on the street as you would never see it again anyhow...
Well I guess it depends on his personality and approach to this.
This whole debacle could have been avoided just by having a different title.
upkeep? that's what an OS is for isn't it? and/or timemachine? so i am perplexed as to what he meant by "technical upkeep." unless he means that having so much ram and storage is probably overdoing it in most cases unless you are doing scientific research or making a real time machine. and or, video editing in HD, 3d-modeling, photoshopping, composing music, encoding video, writing emails, using windows thru a virtual machine and surfing the net all at the same time.
i think people around here will tell you sooner or later that you shouldn't buy ram from apple and that you will save x amounts of dollars from a third-party ram supplier.
2 x 4gb mushkin sticks only cost $580 at newegg. if you do the math, you'll save $6,780.
Oh - I think someone who writes "mostly as a toy since I'm blessed enough to be able to afford it" is at least in part a d.b. and deserves all the negative comments. I was just posting in case he was serious, since it's pretty clear that no-one else in the thread is in a similar position to the OP if he was - being serious that is.