You don't have a good impression of the country so you spout racist nonsense? This is not a good habit to get into.
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$25 Million Class-Action Lawsuit Filed Against Apple in South Korea Over Location Data Collection
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You don't have a good impression of the country so you spout racist nonsense? This is not a good habit to get into.
Which part is racist?
I can't give an honest opinion about what I think of them anymore?
On par... really?
Korean currency does not have any units below their Won. (They used to have Jun, which is kind of like US cents, but they did away with that few decades ago)
so the original poster was right. 1 cent is approximately 10 won.
Oh god pulleeez. Google are just as bad. They come around and snap pictures for Google earth and sniff peoples Wifi networks too by the way. Am I suing them? No.
Here's the thing, I bet every single one of those people took advantage of the outcome of what data is being collected.
Yep, I use Google earth and street view. How, because Google went and took pics of other peoples cars and houses. Don't be such hypocrites people.
If you want to sue Apple find a real reason.
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Be very careful here. Americans are NOT a race, merely a nation.
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to be honest half does people probably just found the site to sign lets say on fb and thought "why not try, doesnt hurt".
i would do the same
to be honest half does people probably just found the site to sign lets say on fb and thought "why not try, doesnt hurt".
i would do the same
apple should have just updated the terms of use, once the first occurrence happened, and then if everyone else sued, they could have just shown that everyone already agreed tot he new terms of use, and were ok with it.
They can still do it, either they agree to the terms of use or no iphones for them.
They can still do it, either they agree to the terms of use or no iphones for them.
Really, I don't see anything wrong with giving my impression of the SKoreans.
I even admit it was a generalization - meaning, of course there are Koreans that don't fit that description.
But those are the first things that come to mind when I think of the country as a whole.
Telcos collect location data all the time
What BS hypocrisy. Google admitted to doing the same. Telcos do the same - in fact many court cases now use location information of cell phones provided by telcos as evidence. Also, I now see ads on web pages that target the specific town I live in, despite my ISP being in a major city several hours away.
There's all sorts of location information being collected and shared.
To sue Apple is hypocritical if they continue to ignore every other entities who do the same thing.
What BS hypocrisy. Google admitted to doing the same. Telcos do the same - in fact many court cases now use location information of cell phones provided by telcos as evidence. Also, I now see ads on web pages that target the specific town I live in, despite my ISP being in a major city several hours away.
There's all sorts of location information being collected and shared.
To sue Apple is hypocritical if they continue to ignore every other entities who do the same thing.
1) Backed up through itunes - i.e., moved from phone
2) Apple crowd-source a location database - (some) data was sent to Apple. (In fact, every time you use the positioning service you send data to Apple. They claim its anonymous though, which it very well may be).
Now, no. In the future, perhaps. Apple has patent-filings of these things. Obviously they thought about it (google articles on: Location Histories for Location Aware Devices).
I dont think man walked on the moon, changes very little in the end.
Really? Then why not inform the consumer?
Key word - among - other things.
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Validity of EULA:s are questionable. Second, some rights cannot be waived, meaning EULA:s are never carte blanche, whatever they may state (and whatever i may agree too).
(Google is even worse when it comes to these things. )
Anyhow, link offered nothing new. second, as to the "its not telling your location"-argument, well - Apple is using the very technique to provide location services for non 3G wifis, so think again. However they dress it, it gives up your location.
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its not a good idea to get into racism on a US site. given their history they see racism in everything. dont worry
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its not a good idea to get into racism on a US site. given their history they see racism in everything. dont worry
I'm not suing anyone. Appleonian's will say it's ok because somebody else does it too. So two wrongs make a right where Apple is concerned.
What is racism then if it's not a an ill-informed, prejudiced, derogative generalization about a people of a particular country and culture?
What is an honest opinion? Does give it some credence and right to be voiced without challenge?
How can it be ill informed if his view is based on his experience with that group of people?
I went to watch the World Cup in 98 in France and almost every single person I met was rude and / or obtuse. I think the French are rude and obtuse. Is that ill informed? Not in my own experience. Generalisation? yes. Correct about ALL French people? Absolutely not, Im sure, but based on my experience it formed my opinion on them until my experiences lead me to other conclusions.
Same with the other guy.
Privacy is not some "supid ****", it's the foundation of Freedom. Without privacy, there is no Freedom. Apple intruded illegally and without invitation into their customers' privacy. This might be hard to understand for most Americans, but this certainly is more important than those lawsuits over trivial software patents that we've been reading about every single day and that most folks here take more seriously than their personal rights. But what do you expect from the Facebook generation that apparently believes that having a Big Brother watching you is a good thing?
Yeah I thought Apple had already paid out to that first guy. What makes him special to all the other iPhone users? Apple should know that a class action suit is coming, and any lawyer with half a brain will file that suit.
This isn't America either this is Korea so the rules are different. American Law does not apply to everyone.
That is an interesting take, but you are grossly underestimating the xenophobia that can be manifested in Korean business, and not simply the racial sense. I have lived in Seoul for a decade, speak Korean, read the papers and watch the news here. Safe to say, my finger is on the pulse.
This suit is likely the result of the extensive media attention given to this particular lawyer amidst what is literally a storm of anti-Apple sentiment in Korea at the moment as a result of the 10.1 injunction in Europe.
Sure, the iPhone (which was only released here in 11/09 after nearly two years of a TEXTBOOK non-tariff barrier) has opened Koreans' eyes en masse to Apple products and many are buying. Nonetheless, Samsung is a core, if not the core, component in what is essentially a corporatist state, or Korea Inc. as it's often called.
When Samsung (and tortoise-like LG) get in a fight with a foreign competitor, be it from The Netherlands to Nigeria, you can count on a communal reaction
here whipped up by and in support of the local brand, as corporations like Samsung literally own huge swathes of the media. Moreover, Samsung vs. Apple is literally on the national TV news on a regular basis these days! Hence, this suit and the mudslinging it enables in the local media serve to dissuade locals from buying foreign products. See Korea's tariff rates across other industries as well. Export, but do not import has been the game for decades.
Now, come on. The country which institutes an online real-name system and has 35 million of its "netizens" (in a nation of 50 million) get their personal info. stolen by presumably Chinese hackers due to piss-poor online security (Active X addiction) has citizens frenziedly suing Apple for THIS, and getting this much attention in the process?!? Bogus.
I am no patent lawyer, but common sense dictates the Galaxy Tab/phone is a blatant ripoff of the iPad/phone. Defending such practices by labeling critics of them "racist" in the interest of "free competition" will leave innovative companies penniless while the word economy moves eastward, where intellectual property is a shifty and relative concept at best.