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26.2 is really bad when you come from 18.7.x
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Been running 26 since one of the betas. Have not had those issues. 🤷♂️
So I'll counter your anecdote with one of my own. My friends, a senior that is a high net worth family with loads of disposable income has no issues with ios 26. And when we discuss this in general terms what is seen on sites like MR we all shrug our shoulders.
Nobody is de-digitizing their lives. Maybe spend less time on social media. For me, MR is my social media. I spend less than an hour a week on facebook and Linkedin and have not joined any other social media sites. I use my phone for work related stuff. I also use my phone/ipad as a TV substitute, a radio substitute and a streaming substitute when I don't need that 7.2 surround sound experience (plus the other things like financial management etc). So I substitute using my phone for my tv and computer and radio. My social media guilty pleasure is this site.
have you tried backing them up, reinstalling the apps from a new state? If not, I would.
it's awful honestly, i'm considering going back to android
my only issue is the battery life , on my 16Pro was solid , now it has taken a dive
UI/UX design is very important. iOS 18 is excellent, perhaps because I am familiar with it.
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I'm starting to think Liquid Glass is the visual reasoning for the longer round corner radius, before iOS 26 release.
I think that explains it the best, that they didn't like how the simulated glass effects looked on tighter but still rounded corners (shorter radius).
It probably looked to rectilinear, not showcasing the liquid glass effect in an overly smooth way as they may have desired, it was simply to sharp and maybe was suddenly to jarring (which would be a clear signal Liquid glass is not working!)
There is no genuine design reason for these jumbo or is that dumbo corners, until you put them in a liquid glass need to ram it through context (I don't buy the mirroring bezel because that is not a design reason that is a my favourite colour is round reason, and if that is the reason oh dear oh dear!)
One of the genuine good product design reasons for rounded corners on the outer of a books or journal, is it reduced hits to the corner and dog ear - rounded corners then also became an aesthetic, giving particularly journals a more personal touch, and it is nice but it really does reduce the impact area and improves you journal condition longevity over time, from the ware and tare of being dropped, stuffed or rummaged for in a bag or drawer etc. etc.
Yep that's why they changed these things in advance of Liquid glass in iOS18, early simulations looked crap to the touchy-feely sensibilities, and did not feel it looked good until they over-rounded the crap out of the interface.
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I tell you what.
I too love how iOS renders the glass effect, it is actually amazing, it's beautiful how it sumptuously renders the glass physics, it's actually very cool that it can render glass effects to such high fidelity, so realistically, even though it's a totally virtual fantasy meta space, the rendering is highly polished when you stop and just look at it.
Except applied to the iOS 26 UI/UX it is a total disaster and design failure, there must be a litany of moments that someone could have said STOP!
You can not fix one bad idea with a sequences of more bad ideas trying to salvage and mitigate the origin / root casue, unless you are a fake it till you make it (break it) player.
There is an Aprils fools jest often played with young children or apprentices, something like "can you go over to John and ask him for a lend of the glass hammer"
Somone one asked for the glass hammer and Apple delivered it
Oh dear.
I understand you don’t like it subjectively. However, subjectively I like it. I don’t think it’s a disaster, find few glitches, mostly microstutters. That is my subjective opinion.
It's a rather objective view actually based on a lot of subjective experience. You should have picked that up, and as outlined elsewhere Liquid Glass broke the UI/UX - it's that simple.
Conceptually and rendering wise nice FX, but systematically infused into iOS as is, you realise that Apple actually took seriously the delivery of glass hammer, and now you can start to see how it informed previous iterations of iOS.
They've been going down a bad path longer that iOS 26 and it's verifiable in the iterative decisions, case in previous point, the over rounded corners, points to bad decision spawning more bad decisions. There is a growing and clearer design pathology with ensuing contagion, the more we apply our visual reckoning, the more we can see the cracks began appearing in earlier iOS iterations.
We didn't jsut end up here all by accident. That's the most damming aspect. This was the plan, and here we are, with I owed argue macOS the greater casualty in the story, when it never had to be.
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Isn't that the point of this thread? (and many, many others). There are Liquid Glass appreciation threads somewhere buried in this subforum for compliments. We are here to express out dissatisfaction.
Sure. We’re here to express our satisfaction or dissatisfaction.
If “it” were simple we wouldn’t be discussing this. There is nothing objective about this conversation. Some people like iOS 26 while others don’t. Been that way since forever.
I’m not sure where here is. If by that you mean the people who like iOS 26 vs the people that dont.
The last change from iOS 6 to iOS 7 I think was more to stick their tongue out at Forestall.
Just imagine still being on iOS 17.7.2 - the speed, smoothness and design of the UI is simply incredible! 👍
To anyone else that is still running iOS 17.7.2 on their iPhone 14 Pro or iPhone 15 Pro to this day, I salute you.
Even though iOS26 relentlessly screams at me to embrace and upgrade..... as an iP13 mini owner, I will NEVER conform to the bullying of Apple's only forced option to upgrade.
Apple, you unilaterally terminated support for users wishing to stay and update on iOS18, so I unilaterally stick my middle finger up to you and will stay on iOS18 for as long as I deem necessary.
What happened to Apple software and the quality control within the software division?
Spiralling in a downward vortex on a crash course to doom.
Apple, you unilaterally terminated support for users wishing to stay and update on iOS18, so I unilaterally stick my middle finger up to you and will stay on iOS18 for as long as I deem necessary.
What happened to Apple software and the quality control within the software division?
Spiralling in a downward vortex on a crash course to doom.
In summary, the only way to get a phone that is on iOS 18 now if you do not have one already, is to find a refurbed XR/XS model or maybe a donation from family/friend who never traded in or sold their previous iPhone and also never upgraded to iOS26.
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I have a se 2020, I've noticed no issues with ios26.2 to date. all applications seem to work as before, my wife informs me that the esthetics of ios26.2 on her iPhone 16 pro are displeasing , she has no application issues to date that I'm aware of, needless to say I'm clueless on what is happening to your phone.
I swapped my 16 Pro for a 15 Pro Max. I did have a Pixel 10 Pro XL for a week but ioS18 trumps both Android and ios26 so I'm a happy camper once more.In summary, the only way to get a phone that is on iOS 18 now if you do not have one already, is to find a refurbed XR/XS model or maybe a donation from family/friend who never traded in or sold their previous iPhone and also never upgraded to iOS26.
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Mac running Sequoia. iPhone on ios18. The majority of stuff just works again (the few small bits that dont work didnt get fixed in 26 anyway, just more issues stacked on top)
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Oh well, my post got censored, cause I criticized a well too famous member, so nonetheless:
I wish you all a Great New Year!
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I wish you all a Great New Year!
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They're focused on different areas at the moment. The kernel and memory protection measures in the recent iOS releases are industry leading.
Sure the UI has gone backwards, but the overall "quality" of the software imho is much improved. Unfortunately in ways that you'll never see or appreciate due to it silently working in the background to protect you from malware.