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I get mine tomorrow....

Looks like I'll have my G2 shuffles tomorrow. Should be better taking that to the gym, the wife is all excited about hers.

Too bad they come with the old-style earbuds, although I don't know if the new ones are really that much better as I've not personally used the newer ones. Oh, well... If I don't like them, I'll swap them out I guess.
 
You should only use that option to convert AIFF CD Audio files NOT mp3 files. Your quality will go in the toilet if you try to convert mp3 directly to AAC at any bit rate. Plus it does take a long time to make that crappy conversion.

True - I imagine that it would indeed. I already turned the option off because it didn't seem like it would be too helpful...
 
For the love of PETE...

Can we please stop calling it a "2G" Shuffle now? That is the single stupidest naming convention I have ever seen, and will continue to cause confusion well into the future. Even "G2" and up is better now, thanks to the demise of the PowerPC.
 
2G iPod Update

New iPod Shuffle ordered from the Apple Store on Oct 30 is bieng delivered today - 5 days ahead of the original delivery date that Apple initially promised.
 
Got mine...

As expected, FedEx delivered my shuffle this morning. I set mine up and noticed Apple already had a firmware update for it. Anyway, I loaded it with music and have been playing with it off and on for the past couple hours. Pretty cool little unit. I wish the spring on the clip was stronger so it would clip/bite harder, but it's not bad. I'll take it to the gym this afternoon and see how well it works.

The pictures don't do it justice. The thing is really smaller than you think it is, even looking at the pictures. So far I'm rather pleased.
 
do you have any pics of your own??!?!?!

Er... No. Well. OK, I'll snap a couple with my crap camera. Someone needs to take some good pictures with a nice macro lens. ...I'm not that ambitious, besides my "big" or "nice" camera is still a film camera. OK, that's them... Not really any better than what others have posted. Oh well.
 

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Gapless playback?

May seem like a silly question about the shuffle....but can the 2nd gen Shuffle play gapless if you set it off shuffle and load in a gapless album?
 
Yay!! My Shuffle got delivered this morning too. I left it charging while I've gone to work. Can't wait to get home tonight and give it a whirl.

/My first iPod!
 
arrived this morning; love it.

i pre-ordered mine at the beginning of october, and got it this morning (engraving and all--wow, small engraving font!). very positive first impression.

i can see why some people complain about the clip at first: you expect it to be like a binder clip. i think apple's design is actually fine. there's a decent amount of force when the clip is wide open, and then when it's almost closed there's less force, the majority of its fastening power being supplied by the overlapping "teeth." for its intended use--clipping to clothes--i think it's great. whether it will clip successfully to other materials i think depends on the thickness (thicker is better up to a quarter inch or so), pliability (so the teeth can catch some material), and whether there is a thicker edge to catch onto. works flawlessly clipped on a shirt collar, any pocket, a flap with a thick edge, belt loop, anything you can clip it onto pointing down, etc. not so great on pinches of fine fabric. of course there's barely any weight to jostle it off. i expect no problems.

sound quality of course is fine. haven't bought an ipod since '03, so i was pleasantly surprised by the "old" headphones' cord adjuster (you can cinch it up so that the left/right cords are held together up to a point of your choosing--is that new?). i ordered one of those pairs of logitech bluetooth headphones that are super cheap on account of their fragility, and am very excited to try to rig up a cordless gym-going system.

the little dock is quite nice. pleasantly weighty for such a tiny form factor, and has a bottom surface that really seems to grip my desk, which is great--reassures you that it won't blow away or tip over.

i think once again apple's done a great job of providing more control and info than you would expect out of such a simple interface. my favorite example: hitting the "play/pause" button three times takes you to a random song (in shuffle mode), or to the first song in your list (in standard mode--very useful!) this is probably not new, but i didn't know about it before and like it a lot. you can also press and hold the play/pause button to toggle the hold mode (shutting off responsiveness of the buttons). and unplugging headphones automatically pauses playback.

itunes 7.0.2 worked great to load it up (though being used to my 3rd gen ipod i miss the speed of firewire). now when i plug in the shuffle there are two tabs at the top of the content window--one for settings and one for content.

so overall i love it. if forced, i could come up with 1.5 complaints. 1) the engraving is kind of hard to read--small, part of it just slightly fuzzy. .5) though i totally don't expect it to slip from wherever i clip it, i would probably feel more secure if the clip were a bit stronger.
 
Gapless playback?--no.

May seem like a silly question about the shuffle....but can the 2nd gen Shuffle play gapless if you set it off shuffle and load in a gapless album?

apple says no, and i can confirm this on my new 2nd gen shuffle. there is a slight gap.
 
apple says no, and i can confirm this on my new 2nd gen shuffle. there is a slight gap.

how big is a "slight" gap? well I guess I won't be getting one then because I don't see why I should buy an ipod that can't play back albums properly! my first gen shuffle was completely dead for the past two months until last week when the new utility brought it back, so I can't justify a new shuffle and will probably end up eventually getting one of the nanos (wish the 8GB one came in different colours including the project red version). And my first gen 10GB scroll wheel iPod is still working fine 4 1/2 years after I got it!
 
apple says no, and i can confirm this on my new 2nd gen shuffle. there is a slight gap.

Yep... Confirmed here too. But for the size, design and price of this little unit I just can't find anything to complain about. ...The laser engraving could have been a bit bigger, but hey I can read it just fine - just my name and phone number in case I lose it at the gym.
 
How Slight A Gap? Old iPods Have 1-2 Second Gap. Is It Less Than That?

apple says no, and i can confirm this on my new 2nd gen shuffle. there is a slight gap.
Can you be more specific? What do you mean by the word "slight"? Old iPods have a 1-2- second gap between tracks. Is it less than a second?

Have you tested with a many multi-track classical album or electronica compilation?
 
Can you be more specific? What do you mean by the word "slight"? Old iPods have a 1-2- second gap between tracks. Is it less than a second?

The gap is very slight and doesn't seem to be consistant. When skipping ahead to the next song in the playlist, there's about a 1/10th of a second pause. When allowing one track to play straight through to the next, it seems the gap is less than half of that to almost none, but like I said it seems to vary. There's been a couple times where I could swear there was no gap or pause, but most of the time it's perceptable in some way. For albums where a musical selection spans more than one track, I would probably link them together into one audio file/track before importing to iTunes.

I'll play with it some more though. I haven't had that much time to spend with it just yet after it took over 2 hours to fully charge and I just dumped a couple albums to it quickly to take it to the gym for a test run. Preliminary results are very positive. The size is great... The included earbuds are nothing special and their cord is a little on the short side, which may be good or bad depending on how you want to use it.
 
Could we see a picture of your engraving please?

I've tried snapping pictures of my engraving, but my camera won't pick up anything but a blur... But for what it's worth, it seems the Capital letters / numbers are exactly 1/16th of an inch in height.
 
ARG!!!!! 2G iPod Shuffle NOT in Stores On Friday!!!!!!!!

So I stopped by one of the apple stores in town today on my way to work. and well there were NO iPod shuffles in!!!! (but i missed the fact that there were 8GB red nanos, though i doubt they actually had any in stock!!) The guy working at the apple store said they 'might' be in by this afternoon or evening and they will 'hopefully' have enough stock to make it through the weekend, but 'there was a chance' that they wouldnt have any by sunday.
 
Available in Tampa, FL

I just got back from International Plaza in Tampa, FL and they have the new Second-Generation iPod Shuffle in the store. They are not on display. I went up to the counter and asked for one and the guy had 4 behind another display.

I didn't ask how many they had in stock, but there were at least 3 at the time I left.

Got it all set up. The sound quality puts my 20GB touch-wheel with full-size FireWire connector iPod to shame.

The packaging, as expected, is pretty cool too.

[I tried to be as specific as possible on my iPod naming conventions ;-)]
 
future shuffles

People have already been commenting on future generations/revisions of the shuffle.

This is how I see the shuffle's roadmap:

Currently, it is at 1GB.

I think the next revision will bump it to 2GB at the same price point. That's what happened with the nano AND shuffle a year later. (although the shuffle did increase by $10, maybe due to the dock/form factor difference?)

My opinion is that they can not have two shuffles at 1GB and 2GB because of the price right now, and the intrusion into the nano market. Right now, prove me if I'm wrong, 2GB flash memory costs anywhere from $50-$100?

I also see Apple chopping off the part on the left that does not have controls. They will move the headphone jack over as well as the controls so that it fits in a 1"x1" section. That will probably be 3rd Gen, maybe at 4GB.

I think by the time 4GB becomes cheap/small enough to fit in an under $99 price point, they will be able to chop off that left side.

SO in my own opinion:

1GB at $79
becomes

2GB at $79 (sept '07 iPod Special Event)
becomes

4GB at $69 (sept '08 iPod Special Event) w/ left side chopped off. The reduction in price is just due to less material costs because of smaller size and advancements in manufacturing/technology.

I really do think it will take two years to see a 4GB shuffle because of size and price. Apple has historically doubled the size at the same price for the nano and shuffle, and granted that is only a year's work of data.

What does everyone think?

-=|Mgkwho
 
where's the earphones?

got mine today. get it home. open it up. and.

no earphones! the box is only held together with a sticker so i'm thinking they got jacked somewhere along the line. or maybe they where just missed on the assembly line. anyway. tech support said i should have a new pair at my door by tuesday.

anyone else have issues?
 
got mine today. get it home. open it up. and.

no earphones! the box is only held together with a sticker so i'm thinking they got jacked somewhere along the line. or maybe they where just missed on the assembly line. anyway. tech support said i should have a new pair at my door by tuesday.

anyone else have issues?

Hahahaa... Oh, wait, that really isn't funny. Well, yeah it is.

Oh well, it happens... Probably missed during the packaging.
 
People have already been commenting on future generations/revisions of the shuffle.

I agree with the predictions about the next revision being 2GB at the same price point. I would say that the form factor will stay the same, but maybe a stronger clip.

After that, who knows. I can also see a future shuffle having a miniature printed OLED display on it, perhaps in the middle of the play/pause button that could somehow relay which playlist you're using and a few other details.

By the end of '08, we could easily be seeing 16 and 24 GB nanos and 120/160 GB video iPods. I'm not going to make any predictions as to form factor, but I think the current aluminum tube design of the shuffle and nano will stay around for a while.
 
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