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3.3 Million Songs, 20,000 iMixes
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Trowaman said:
you shouldn't just "fix it"... just leave it and don't make the same mistake again...
greg75, whatever helps you sleep at night when you defend obvious rip-off sites like that... Call up Sony, Island, DefJam, or Warner, or any other record company and ask if that site has ever paid them a dime. You obviously are intelligent enough to know you are just defending to defend. The soap box must be nice from up there. We BOTH know the record companies get $0 from Russia... 
In the interests of being constructive
Just so when I wake up tomorrow, I don't have to read this post a dozen times or more, here is a link which from Wikipedia which is the redirect from Compulsory Licensing.
Personally, I would say that the whole issue is based on whether the copyright holders are receiving payment and are accepting that payment.
If you accept the payment, you don't have a leg to stand on; if you're recieving a payment based on a unilaterally imposed contract (which would normally be considered an unfair contract in any 'civilised' legal system in the world), you'd be better advised to keep the cheque uncashed as evidence that the party understands that they need to pay for the usage of your property and then go after them using the WTO, Berne Convention and other mechanisms.
The other part of this position would be that, if the Russian Federation wants to be part of the G8 and the WTO, it should start to play by the rules of the commercially developed world.
greg75 said:
Just so when I wake up tomorrow, I don't have to read this post a dozen times or more, here is a link which from Wikipedia which is the redirect from Compulsory Licensing.
Personally, I would say that the whole issue is based on whether the copyright holders are receiving payment and are accepting that payment.
If you accept the payment, you don't have a leg to stand on; if you're recieving a payment based on a unilaterally imposed contract (which would normally be considered an unfair contract in any 'civilised' legal system in the world), you'd be better advised to keep the cheque uncashed as evidence that the party understands that they need to pay for the usage of your property and then go after them using the WTO, Berne Convention and other mechanisms.
The other part of this position would be that, if the Russian Federation wants to be part of the G8 and the WTO, it should start to play by the rules of the commercially developed world.
The MacObserver says that Apple had 3 million copies of iTunes 4.5 downloaded in the last week. Damn those Xserve's are getting a work out.
Flowbee said:
Well yeah. allofmp3.com claim that they have a licensing agreement with the "Russian Multimedia and Internet Society" but there doesn't appear to be any such thing. The closest to it would be these guys, but the English names being used by each party are different enough to make one say "hnnh?"
If someone who writes Russian well wants to try and get the real scoop, there are contact addresses at the bottom of that page, web at roms dot ru and roms at roms dot ru.
Does anyone else think the implementation of iMixes is REALLY poor? Unless Ive drastically missed something you cant easily browse or search through the iMix lists which as it stands is insanely long. So say Im looking for something possibly folk I should be able to do some form of adv search in iTMS and simply search or turn the browser feature on and simply browse through the list. IMHO as it stands iMix is next to useless unless some tweaks are done to allow easy browsing. Please correct me if Im wrong and you can somehow do the above because I cant seem to find a way to do it. Fantastic concept on the part of Apple. Somewhat poor implementation.
greg75 said:
Oh please. It's not so much an issue of legality, it's an issue of morality. The people getting screwed at the end of the day, by even legal download services like iTunes, are the artists.
They're just getting less screwed than if people steal their music via p2p or if people support crap, "questionable"
, sites like allofmp3.com which doubtfully give anything back through the appropriate channels.
Laslo Panaflex said:
Just a hint, but instead of having a blank window open, change http:// to itms:// and it goes straight there. Check out http://www.city-magazine.com/citymix.html for an example.
dontmatter said:
"Cupertino, California-based Apple reported 3 million downloads of iTunes 4.5, which incorporates the online music store, since its release last week".
Yeah, pretty dissapointing.
dontmatter said:
3 million according to a Reuters story - of course, what you really needed to know is how many of those are upgrades. And what %age of the pre-existing iTunes user base that represents.
Oh I agree. I don't use iTMS or Allofmp3.com. I stick to good old CDs (not that artists get paid fairly from CD sales, but I digress).MacQuest said:
What's crap about the site? That they don't offer DRM?MacQuest said:They're just getting less screwed than if people steal their music via p2p or if people support crap, "questionable"
sw1tcher said:
I've won 2 from the Ben & Jerry's vote pledge also. It surprised me that my wife and I also won. The pledges were done within minutes of each other.
Do you happen to know where to find the poper area to enter the code for the free song? Thanks in advance!
Thor74 said:greg75, whatever helps you sleep at night when you defend obvious rip-off sites like that... Call up Sony, Island, DefJam, or Warner, or any other record company and ask if that site has ever paid them a dime. You obviously are intelligent enough to know you are just defending to defend. The soap box must be nice from up there. We BOTH know the record companies get $0 from Russia...
I think that statement is really funny in light of this article:
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/may/may4a_04.html
iMeowbot said:
I think it's just the translation. If you go to the Russian version of AllOfMp3.com and click on the legal link it refers to the POMC (in the same place it refers to "Russian Multimedia and Internet Society" in the English version). POMC is the organization to which you refer (as can be seen here: http://www.roms.ru/ )
scraemondaemon said:
They certainly come into play. However, the copyright laws that come into play are only those of the originating country (the country where the copying is taking place). That's why the US and European countries have been pushing hard (due to efforts of the MPAA/RIAA-type lobbies no doubt) to get other countries to implement DMCA-like copyright laws.
For instance, the US could enact a law prohibiting bringing any kind of music or video into the US from another country without a permit. In that case, even though AllOfMP3.com might be able to legally make and sell copies, I would be breaking US law by bringing that file into the US via the download.
Rather than try to understand the laws of each country or state, it's simpler to put a vague legal statement offloading the responsibility to the consumer.