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3.33GHz Xeon (Server CPU) Transplant in a 2009 Quad
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CPU-Z is not really netkas'; he just makes good use of it. It comes from CPUID.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
Who can explain why we do these crazy things...
BTW, I left my computer idle today for a few minutes and came back to a kernel panic. Xeon arrives on Thursday... I'm counting the days.
Sorry to hear it panicked.
Let us know if the upgrade works for you!!
I'm On A Xeon 3580 Now
Well, I replaced my Core i7 w/ a Xeon W3580 and performed a few sleep/logout/login cycles without issue. However, when I logout the desktop is cleared of icons but seems to linger for a while before the logout is completed. I'm able to login again without issues so far, but I am getting errors in my console:
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.loginwindow[356] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro loginwindow[356] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.ScreenSharing.server[403] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro AppleVNCServer[403] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.ScreenSharing.server[403] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro AppleVNCServer[403] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.loginwindow[356] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro loginwindow[356] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.loginwindow[356] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro loginwindow[356] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.WindowServer[576] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro WindowServer[576] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
10/1/09 7:02:45 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[147] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
I'm not sure what these mean, but it does appear that loginwindow and WindowServer are having some issues since they are indicating warnings and errors. Is this normal behavior? I've cleared all non-Apple preference panes, startup items, and removed all launch daemons and contextual menu items.
Do you think a re-install of SL is in order?
Well, I replaced my Core i7 w/ a Xeon W3580 and performed a few sleep/logout/login cycles without issue. However, when I logout the desktop is cleared of icons but seems to linger for a while before the logout is completed. I'm able to login again without issues so far, but I am getting errors in my console:
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.loginwindow[356] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro loginwindow[356] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.ScreenSharing.server[403] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro AppleVNCServer[403] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.ScreenSharing.server[403] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro AppleVNCServer[403] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.loginwindow[356] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro loginwindow[356] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.loginwindow[356] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro loginwindow[356] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
10/1/09 7:02:37 PM com.apple.WindowServer[576] Thu Oct 1 19:02:37 sonnys-mac-pro WindowServer[576] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
10/1/09 7:02:45 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[147] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
I'm not sure what these mean, but it does appear that loginwindow and WindowServer are having some issues since they are indicating warnings and errors. Is this normal behavior? I've cleared all non-Apple preference panes, startup items, and removed all launch daemons and contextual menu items.
Do you think a re-install of SL is in order?
Cpu Temps
I am seeing my CPU temps under light load hovering 4-5C cooler than with the Core i7. Core i7 would idle at 38-39C, Xeon 3580 is idling at around 33-34C. This is definitely good news, but a 4-5C difference in temps would not in itself account for issues with the Core i7. It's still a mystery, but I will report back over the next few days as I continue using the system.
I am seeing my CPU temps under light load hovering 4-5C cooler than with the Core i7. Core i7 would idle at 38-39C, Xeon 3580 is idling at around 33-34C. This is definitely good news, but a 4-5C difference in temps would not in itself account for issues with the Core i7. It's still a mystery, but I will report back over the next few days as I continue using the system.
Sounds like you did a better application of thermal paste. with the i7 975 my temps are the same, unless I'm playing music.. LOL.
Hey Tutor....
I believe this is what the doctor ordered. It has everything about speedstep, setting voltages, multipliers, etc.
From what i've read, the ktext is fully editable and it looks like the values can be manipulated after boot as in the other example.
There are tools for monitoring it.... etc... I spent an hour but need to jump back to writing...
What the technology is about...
http://www.projectosx.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=610&pid=3091&st=0&#entry3091
the forum where it is discussed
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showforum=163
a couple ktexts to modify it
http://code.google.com/p/xnu-speedstep/
http://www.superhai.com/darwin.html
Thx!
HHG
I believe this is what the doctor ordered. It has everything about speedstep, setting voltages, multipliers, etc.
From what i've read, the ktext is fully editable and it looks like the values can be manipulated after boot as in the other example.
There are tools for monitoring it.... etc... I spent an hour but need to jump back to writing...
What the technology is about...
http://www.projectosx.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=610&pid=3091&st=0&#entry3091
the forum where it is discussed
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showforum=163
a couple ktexts to modify it
http://code.google.com/p/xnu-speedstep/
http://www.superhai.com/darwin.html
Thx!
HHG
Thx! If it's on the internet... I usually can find it and usually it's just a matter of time. In my sleuthing... I found that CPU-i causes a kernel panic after the KTEXT is installed... MSR tools shows voltage and current CPU speed, but for only 2 cores... I'm looking for one that shows all 4.
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Oh well.. i guess I did the paste wrong on my 3.33 processor!
Hey nano,
Can you explain why then is my system working normally even though I applied a pea size amount of the heat sink on the heat spreader and used a credit card with ragged edge to spread it ALL OVER the integrated heat spreader? I am not sure why everyone is telling me I did this wrong.. I am not dumb when it comes to these things.. a processor is a processor and for me, using a small thin coat of paste to cover the entire surface is better since this is how I did my upgrades with powerpc upgrades on the mirror drive door and the purple core was a lot smaller..
So, if everyone is saying i did it wrong, then why is my machine working great then?
No cause for concern, just wanting to know why everyone is telling me i did it wrong?
Hey nano,
Can you explain why then is my system working normally even though I applied a pea size amount of the heat sink on the heat spreader and used a credit card with ragged edge to spread it ALL OVER the integrated heat spreader? I am not sure why everyone is telling me I did this wrong.. I am not dumb when it comes to these things.. a processor is a processor and for me, using a small thin coat of paste to cover the entire surface is better since this is how I did my upgrades with powerpc upgrades on the mirror drive door and the purple core was a lot smaller..
So, if everyone is saying i did it wrong, then why is my machine working great then?
No cause for concern, just wanting to know why everyone is telling me i did it wrong?
Yours is rather centered.
I'm a fan of "works well with little effort" school of thinking.
I've even gone thought the effort of spreading it with a plastic bag over the end of a finger and credit card methods. Not any discernable difference when it was done correctly. If incorrect, it's worse.
So the "centered pea dollop" seems to be the best of the bunch IMO.
I had read your advice (Roman23) as well as looked for numerous other sources on the internet, YouTube, tech articles, etc about applying thermal paste. The consensus (99%) of what I read recommends your method of applying a small bead of paste on the center of the IHS and spreading it over the surface of the IHS using a business card or credit card (or other spreader) to form a very thin layer which completely covers the IHS. Care must be used not to glob or leave excess around the edges which can seep into the processor. The "thin spread layer" method seems to be the most accepted method and the one recommended by most. Also it doesn't take alot (just a small amount of paste) and then spread it all over the IHS in a very thin layer.
Looks like, according to ArcticSilver's instructions page it really depends upon the CPU.For me no. I think the Apple days are almost all techs will agree, is wrong!
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