homerjward
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http://ati.com/products/radeonx800/radeonx800series/index.htmlBrianKonarsMac said:
apparently that's not true, although that's what ive heard from several places?
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apparently that's not true, although that's what ive heard from several places?
BrianKonarsMac said:
Umm, the X800 isn't a PCI-Express video card... I'd know, I've got an X800 Pro in my gaming PC in an 8x AGP slot.
Games?
Are there any professionals here who would use the monitor for something other than gaming? I like how I will be able to view a Canon 1Ds MKII 16 megapixel file at 50% without having to scroll. I can finally check sharpness without having to zoom in! But just barely. . .
And why oh why must they only have dual-link DVI cards as expensive gaming cards? Dual-link DVI is not expensive, new, or hard to implement. But they throw everything on the card and bump their profit margin way up and I have to buy a $600 card when it could have been $200.
Are there any professionals here who would use the monitor for something other than gaming? I like how I will be able to view a Canon 1Ds MKII 16 megapixel file at 50% without having to scroll. I can finally check sharpness without having to zoom in! But just barely. . .
And why oh why must they only have dual-link DVI cards as expensive gaming cards? Dual-link DVI is not expensive, new, or hard to implement. But they throw everything on the card and bump their profit margin way up and I have to buy a $600 card when it could have been $200.
actually it was, apparently ATI has broken their naming scheme however (to avoid mass confusion obviously, if people can't understand dual link DVI, this would be a doozy). So ATI broke their plans like Apple breaks their guidelines...its the way things work i suppose.Delenn said:
This monitor was DESIGNED for professionals, not gamers. Sure the card's that push it are top of the line...but only a top of the line card could push that many pixels. Yea they COULD put dual link DVI on a POS, but the monitor draw time would be horrendous at best.acj said:
You could buy a Ferrari body and use Ford's basement bin parts and get a cheap working "Ferrari" but why waste your time on the Ferrari body, just to make yourself feel adequate? I hope not.
It's like the Honda's you see that are falling apart, rust everywhere with Racing spoilers and 4 point racing belts and seats, etc. You COULD do it, but why would you want to? I SMELL BURNT RICE!
Moral of the story, if you want a quality solution, use quality parts. If you want to look cool, buy a PC and addiotnal blue led lighting.
benchmarks
benchmarks for the geforce 6800 for mac are already available
http://www.barefeats.com/gef6800.html
benchmarks for the geforce 6800 for mac are already available
http://www.barefeats.com/gef6800.html
simie
macrumors 65816
With ATI developing this new AGP card for the MAC - can we expect Apple to provide yet another configuration of G5 using this new card.
Its a real pitty that ATI are only putting one DVI connector on the card - They have obviously forgotten that some MAC Professionals may want to use 2 screens.
Unless ATI have developed a spitter cable that provides another DVI port.
Its a real pitty that ATI are only putting one DVI connector on the card - They have obviously forgotten that some MAC Professionals may want to use 2 screens.
Unless ATI have developed a spitter cable that provides another DVI port.
the future
macrumors 68040
simie said:
No, you CAN use 2 screens, just not 2 30" screens. The card has 1 dual-DVI and 1 ADC connector. You can easily extract the DVI signal with a relatively cheap adapter and run, for example, a 30" plus a 23" Cinema Display.
the future said:
I wonder if the DVI portion of the ADC connector is also dual-link. On single link DVI, the pins are used for an analog signal, and I know you can extract that from the ADC connector, so in theory nothing would prevent you from making a n ADC connector with dual link DVI.
what are you talking about? The x800 cards have been out on AGP since launchBrianKonarsMac said:
I had to do some tech support a week ago for this lady who couldn't understand why her old 17" Studio Display couldn't plug in to the back of her brand new G5.
After 5 minutes of explaining ADC and DVI and the location on the back of her tower, I realized what card she had.
...and how she was wasting it. 🙁
After 5 minutes of explaining ADC and DVI and the location on the back of her tower, I realized what card she had.
...and how she was wasting it. 🙁
Sabbath
macrumors 6502a
I'm surprised to see ATI and nvidia going head to head with these mac cards, surely they can't be making much from them despite the huge price tags. It will be interesting to see which comes out on top. The nvidia card seems edge in pure open GL power, which is obviously important to us mac users, but can they produce decent mac drivers. Where as the ATI card is smaller uses a lot less power (reasonable assumption based on the PC cards I believe) and ATI put out some nice drivers and tweaking utilities for us.
Additionally I assume the ATI card isn't using a molex connector so they must be getting alot of power from the motherboard via the pro part of the agp pro slot. We used to think that part supplied the power for adc, but now it seems able to power a 23" ADC monitor and at the same time a top of the line ATI card (which must be working pretty hard to push the pixels of a 30" and 23" monitors simultaneously).
Additionally I assume the ATI card isn't using a molex connector so they must be getting alot of power from the motherboard via the pro part of the agp pro slot. We used to think that part supplied the power for adc, but now it seems able to power a 23" ADC monitor and at the same time a top of the line ATI card (which must be working pretty hard to push the pixels of a 30" and 23" monitors simultaneously).
30" Display Arrived
I received my 30" yesterday (Oct. 14). The university where I work ordered it at the beginning of September. Unfortunately, I do not have my G5, so it's just a really impressive box at the moment.
I received my 30" yesterday (Oct. 14). The university where I work ordered it at the beginning of September. Unfortunately, I do not have my G5, so it's just a really impressive box at the moment.
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
voltage?
ADC runs at 26volts or so (see http://www.apple.com/lae/displays/adapter/).
A molex connector for a disk drive supplies 5 and 12 volts.
AGP Pro provides extra 12v and 3.3v power. (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=25)
The stock Apple ADC cards get their power from a non-standard connector beside the AGP connector (look at the small connector on the right of the big AGP slot in this photo of the ADC video card http://www.mikeshardware.com/apple/PowerMacG4/ag4017_lg.jpg).
If the ATI card has an ADC connector, it probably has an extra set of fingers to plug into the non-standard extra connector on the Apple motherboard.
Sabbath said:
ADC runs at 26volts or so (see http://www.apple.com/lae/displays/adapter/).
A molex connector for a disk drive supplies 5 and 12 volts.
AGP Pro provides extra 12v and 3.3v power. (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=25)
The stock Apple ADC cards get their power from a non-standard connector beside the AGP connector (look at the small connector on the right of the big AGP slot in this photo of the ADC video card http://www.mikeshardware.com/apple/PowerMacG4/ag4017_lg.jpg).
If the ATI card has an ADC connector, it probably has an extra set of fingers to plug into the non-standard extra connector on the Apple motherboard.
Sabbath
macrumors 6502a
AidenShaw said:
Sorry I thought the pro part of AGP pro connector (ie the bit not there on a standard AGP connector) supplied the power for the ADC connection. If I understand you correct there is actually an additional connector that supplies this power and the AGP pro merely supplies the cards power.
Also I'm interested in the power more than the voltage, as the voltage can be transformed as required, I thought the GeForce 6800 was so long because of the need to convert the power which would normally be used to power ADC to power the card, I may be horribly wrong of course. Thanks for the info, unfortunately I don't have time to look it up for myself right now.
Windowlicker
macrumors 6502a
