3D Printed Head Fools Android Face Recognition, iPhone X 'Impenetrable'

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    Forbes recently challenged a variety of smartphone face-recognition systems with a 3d printed head modeled after the author's head.
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    The final model took a few days to generate at the cost of just over £300. With it, the author tested it out against four Android smartphones and the iPhone X. All Android phones tested were able to be unlocked with the fake 3d printed head.
    The Android phones tested included the LG G7 ThinQ, Samsung S9, Samsung Note 8 and OnePlus 6.

    It's been long known that many implementations of facial recognition amongst Android phones have been less secure than Apple's Face ID system. Some of those face recognition systems have been fooled with simple photographs. Apple's Face ID, however, also includes IR depth mapping and attention awareness technology. The attention awareness alone may be enough to explain the inability for a static 3d printed head to unlock the iPhone X. That said, the iPhone X's Face ID has been fooled in the past with more sophisticated printed 3d heads.

    Article Link: 3D Printed Head Fools Android Face Recognition, iPhone X 'Impenetrable'
     
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    Proof that apple remains the best, and does things the right way.

    Let’s face it, Android is a big fake.
     
  3. levitynyc macrumors 65816

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    Much prefer the fingerprint sensor.

    I own a Pixel 3 XL now after owning iPhones for 11 years.

    Not wanting face ID is one of the many reasons I decided to switch.
     
  4. Valkyrie743 macrumors newbie

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    i bet if they turned off attention detection for face id then it would trick it.
     
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    That's why every android phone warns you about face recognition security concerns, when setting up face recognition, and a fingerprint is obligatory for banking apps, Google Pay etc
     
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    If I'm in some dystopian torture chamber with 50 cameras pointed at me, I think I have bigger problems than whether or not my Android phone can be spoofed by a dummy.
     
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    You also lose out on iMessages, integration with the Mac and iPad, and having to rely on Google for services because iCloud is now out of reach.
     
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    I think it’s telling for my banking app allows me to unlock the app using Face ID for iOS devices but not with face authentication features on android devices. Apple put in the hard work to make it every bit as secure as Touch ID, if not while, while android smartphone OEMs simply crammed in said feature just to tick off a feature checkbox.

    And people still go around conflating the two.
     
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    I’m surprised Forbles didn’t claim that a Pete Rose bobblehead doll can unlock an iPhone X.
     
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    Impenetrable or not, the simple fact is that we’ve seen very little news about anyone getting past FaceID. This is Apple. It attracts negative news like a magnet. If FaceID was not secure, we’d be hearing about it all the time. The banks trust it with Apple Pay. Customers trust it. It’s a heck of a lot more secure than most alternatives.
     
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    The banks are the key.
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    Not using iMessage would be challenging. I’ve never used an Android device and never thought about iMessage until I started to read about RCS and all the failure of googles messaging apps (shudder).
     
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    I wish Apple would give us another option beside Face ID.
     
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    Wouldn't be shocked if a photograph of Alfred E. Neuman could fool and open any Android phone.
     
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    Yet android people shows off how "fast" their face recognition is. etc etc etc. lol
     
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    For all the arguably valid complaints about lack of innovation in the post-Jobs era, you’ve got to hand it to Apple here. Face ID is legit. The “wow” factor still hasn’t fully worn off, at least for me, over a year later.
     
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    Where’ Huawei mate 20pro. They should have included that phone.
     
  20. mrow macrumors regular

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    What is your issue with Face ID?
     
  21. farewelwilliams macrumors 68000

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    They never showed the setup of Face ID in this vid:

    I can easily recreate this. I first setup Face ID with my face. Then I try to unlock using the mask. Of course iOS will deny access, but once you put in the PIN code, FaceID will learn that the mask is acceptable and will allow access on next try with the mask.

    This is nothing more but to raise the profile of the company.
     
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    Sick burn! Unless you've heard of dropbox, own a surface pro, or don't revolve your life around texting. But you go man, keep thinking everyone uses tech just like you.
     
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    If someone went out of there way to create a 3D model to get inside my phone then they are specifically targeting you for grander reasons instead of just some random joe on the street.
     
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    What he’s saying is it’s superior integration. Apple has a better ecosystem and products work better together than any other. Sure you can probably do *some* of the same things, but the integration just sucks.

    Sorry if that makes you mad.
     

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