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3D Printed Head Fools Android Face Recognition, iPhone X 'Impenetrable'

levitynyc said:
Much prefer the fingerprint sensor.

I own a Pixel 3 XL now after owning iPhones for 11 years.

Not wanting face ID is one of the many reasons I decided to switch.
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Fingerprint sensors are so 2013. I’m surprised you’re using the internet to post this response and not your fax machine while sipping your yohoo and calling your friends from your rotary phone.
 
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It’s all getting very creepy. Everything. All of it.

I’m ready to go back to the 80s now.
 
redman042 said:
Impenetrable or not, the simple fact is that we’ve seen very little news about anyone getting past FaceID. This is Apple. It attracts negative news like a magnet. If FaceID was not secure, we’d be hearing about it all the time. The banks trust it with Apple Pay. Customers trust it. It’s a heck of a lot more secure than most alternatives.
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More or less this. Anytime there is bad Apple news there are lots of news outlets that are in a rush to let you know, and in the past Forbes has definitely been one of them. If someone has a quick but reliable way of defeating FaceID then they are doing a good job of keeping it a secret. And before you come up with scenarios where someone tricks or forces you to Face unlock a phone realize that if someone is desperate enough to force you to unlock ANY phone then if the threat of bodily harm is real you probably would unlock it no matter what type of security the phone uses.
 
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So what?
Do you think someone is going to spend $550US to break into your phone? Do you think the police need to print a 3D head to unlock your phone? THOSE GOONS will simply hold the phone up to your face until it unlocks. Fingerprints and Face IDs are stupid. They're ONLY good to keep honest people out.
 
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LeeHHH234 said:
So what?
Do you think someone is going to spend $550US to break into your phone? Do you think the police need to print a 3D head to unlock your phone? THOSE GOONS will simply hold the phone up to your face until it unlocks. Fingerprints and Face IDs are stupid. They're ONLY good to keep honest people out.
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I wonder how that would work if you have attention aware on. Maybe they whack you with a nightstick until you properly pay attention to the phone? Or get you to stop making weird expressions so that faceID won't recognize you? (of course you only get a few tries...)
 
Dammit Cubs said:
If someone went out of there way to create a 3D model to get inside my phone then are specifically targeting you for grander reasons instead of just some random joe on the street.
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Ya seriously. If I was the head of the CIA or KGB I’d stick to type writers and my noggin for remembering everything. Average Joe Schmoe has no such concerns.
 
dontwalkhand said:
You also lose out on iMessages, integration with the Mac and iPad, and having to rely on Google for services because iCloud is now out of reach.
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If he can jump platform willy nilly, that means he is not using any of the Apple services. He could’ve jumped into Windows Phone and it won’t matter. He probably values just the hardware, not the ecosystem.

Of course, it’s not like Apple stops selling iPhones with Touch ID. iPhone 7 and 8 are still for sale. So I smell more like a Pixel troll. :D
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farewelwilliams said:
They never showed the setup of Face ID in this vid:

I can easily recreate this. I first setup Face ID with my face. Then I try to unlock using the mask. Of course iOS will deny access, but once you put in the PIN code, FaceID will learn that the mask is acceptable and will allow access on next try with the mask.

This is nothing more but to raise the profile of the company.
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Well isn’t that obvious? If you know the PIN, then it’s safe to say the iPhone assume you are the legit owner. If you tell people your PIN, even Touch ID won’t matter.
 
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If you remember the iPhone X keynote, they had a detailed presentation about all of the work they did to make sure Face ID couldn't be compromised by masks and mannequins. Apple probably spent $10 million or more on research to make Face ID bullet proof, so it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of amateurs with 300 GBP fail at cracking it. Who do you think you're dealing with here? Apple is 10 steps ahead of the game as usual.
 
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mrow said:
What is your issue with Face ID?
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For me it's that it doesn't work reliably. I took it to Apple and they tell me it works fine. One of their employees set it up with their face and it unlocked every time. My issue is that only test if my unit can work - not if it works for me. Because their face is not me. It's not me at 3 am without glasses. It's not me when I don't shave in the morning - or when I do shave in the afternoon. It's not me when I am laying on the couch and the phone is sitting at a 90 degree angle one inch from my face because it's to cold to use anything but my nose to tap the screen. It's not me with a hat on, or a sunglasses, or when it's sitting on a dock. Or when I have to use it while it lays flat on a table. It doesn't work upside down or in my pocket. To me these are all reasonable tasks I should expect from a device.
 
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Abazigal said:
I think it’s telling for my banking app allows me to unlock the app using Face ID for iOS devices but not with face authentication features on android devices. Apple put in the hard work to make it every bit as secure as Touch ID, if not while, while android smartphone OEMs simply crammed in said feature just to tick off a feature checkbox.

And people still go around conflating the two.
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Touch ID has been fooled. Samsung’s iris detection has been fooled, not sure of the most recent iteration. Apples biometrics are secure enough for non-government work.

Ymmv.
 
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and I can break your smart phone code by looking over your shoulder while you press the numbers
a lock only keeps a honest person out.
any password, any code, any protection scheme can be hacked any anytime.
 
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