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3G+ Apple Lossless+ Grado Sounds Pretty Good
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As luck would have it, I was referencing one song and not my whole library or, every song know to man.
Haha, that has got to be the most ignorant statement in this whole thread
Any chance you'll outdo yourself once again later on?
You realise that even if you're just playing a single song, and claiming there to be no distortion on the lows, that claim will then extend to other songs, right?
Well, at least you tried outdoing yourself …
Haha, that has got to be the most ignorant statement in this whole thread
Any chance you'll outdue yourself once again later on?
You realise that even if you're just playing a single song, and claiming there to be no distortion on the lows, that claim will then extend to other songs, right?
Well, at least you tried outdoing yourself …
The name of the thread is 3G + Apple Lossless + Grado sounds pretty good. Since Jimi Hendrix, Blues, Born under a Bad Sign, I have heard several distorted songs. Sadly, I have been too busy arguing with you to mention them.
Still, I am amazed that the 3G sounds so good. With my current config, each instrument is defined. The bass is heavy and on a lot of songs comes through distorted. On some songs it sounds great. This is my opinion.
So, do you want to continue to bash my opinion? Do you even have a 3G?
I didn't know you were into recording yourself.
I know what the thread's name is. That wasn't the problem. It was your idiotic blanket fanboy statements about your phone which made me respond.
Of course it comes through distorted on a lot of songs. But you saying that, after listening to a song that it has NO DISTORTION on the LOWS WHATSOEVER is utter ignorance. On any song which uses the same bands, this should then be true. It isn't, no matter how you put it. Your phone distorts. Just because it's the "best apple product [you] have heard", doesn't mean anything about objective audio quality.
No, I purposely avoided the iPhone(s) for a slew of reasons. I have listened to it, though.
I'll stop "bashing" your "opinion" the moment you don't pretend your opinion is factual and a objective.
Haha, you're kidding me.
When I say I have listened to it, I have listened to it with my own headphones, which includes the Sennheiser HD25-1s, the Grado PS1s, and the ER·4s with custom molds.
ALL my music and audio is either in lossless, or uncompressed. All my own recordings are in 48kHz/24bit - in the recent years recorded mostly on the Sound Devices 722 but also the Aaton Cantar X – both with Schoeps mics
Do you really think that you're in a position to give me "advice"?
Yes, I sold my custom molded ETs, minus the custom molds. I am currently using custom molded UE 10 pro's, for work. I like the UE's better, personal preference. I am playing with the Grados because I have heard they are great cans. I heard the SR 60's are great for iPod, iPhone. At this point I agree.
You have listened to the 3G with all your extensive phones? I would never consider plugging my UE's into my iPhone, you are truly an audio pioneer. Especially in the iPhone 3G catagory.
I am still sticking to my earlier post. Jimi Hendrix, Blues, the whole album, sounds great under the current config.
You have listened to the 3G with all your extensive phones? I would never consider plugging my UE's into my iPhone, you are truly an audio pioneer. Especially in the iPhone 3G catagory.
I am still sticking to my earlier post. Jimi Hendrix, Blues, the whole album, sounds great under the current config.
Yes, I tried it with most of my headphones. The reason isn't that I think it would be a great match (it wouldn't), but because I know my monitors, and I know what they're supposed to sound like. That way I don't have to guess what is because of the player and what is because of the monitors.
The PS1s (and the RS1s I used to own) are easily driven by the iPhone/iPod family, though. It still sounds awful, but they're easily driven headphones.
The PS1s (and the RS1s I used to own) are easily driven by the iPhone/iPod family, though. It still sounds awful, but they're easily driven headphones.
Your sarcasm is misplaced. Of course I use what I know and use. Or are you implying that the iPhone would sound better with, say, the iGrados, the SR60s or some other "iPod headphones"?
Yes, and you're entitled to that opinion. It's not the same as the claim earlier on, that it has "no distortion whatsoever".
Semantics.
I think that under the configuration of this thread, Jimi Hendrix's album Blues sounds amazingly good. I can hear no distortion whatsoever on the low-ends (bass). Every instrument is distinct and clearly audible. It is very pleasurable to listen too, and a cheap configuration, if you own a 3G iPhone.
No, that's not semantics at all.
There's quite a lot of difference between the two statements, especially considering your statement turns out be based on Apple products alone. Even Apple fanatic music fans will tell you that the iPhone doesn't hold a candle to the third gen iPod. And that iPod was never great compared to other DAPs.
Now, another thing, also to show you the difference, when you talk of "No distortion whatsoever" you totally neglect the vacuum you "test" in, and you totally neglect that there might be monitors out there with _less_ distortion and more accuracy, and the same goes for the players.
See above.
How on earth can you _still_ make that demand? I told you: I already tried the iPhone. I don't need to buy one to make the same test again. Unless, of course, you really are thinking that the iPhone sounds better with "iPod headphones", not realising that they're only recommended to the iPod because they're easily driven (oh, and to make a quick buck off of the iPod hype, of course).
I ALREADY commented on how the iPhone sounds. I even put in relation to another Apple DAP. It's really funny watching you trying to make the argument that I have to have purchased an iPhone before I can say how good (or not) it sounds. I guess, though, it all ties well into your opinion that because the iPhone does mail and that sort, by extention the audio quality must be great
How on earth can you _still_ make that demand? I told you: I already tried the iPhone. I don't need to buy one to make the same test again. Unless, of course, you really are thinking that the iPhone sounds better with "iPod headphones", not realising that they're only recommended to the iPod because they're easily driven (oh, and make a quick buck on the iPod hype, of course).
I ALREADY commented on how the iPhone sounds. I even put in relation to another Apple DAP. It's really funny watching you trying to make the argument that I have to have purchased an iPhone before I can say how good (or not) it sounds. I guess, though, it all ties well into your opinion that because the iPhone does mail and that sort, by extention the audio quality must be great
You do not own an iPhone 3G, you do not own Grado SR60's. In your extensive audio quality tests of the iPhone 3G, you could not have possible tested the album Jimi Hendrix, Blues.
I really can't say much more. This thread is about the audio quality of the 3G with a lossless source and decent or higher-end phones.
You have your opinions, I have mine. However, I am interested in hearing from people with a similar config. That is what I stated in the first post.
I, as are everyone, are free to give their opinion of audio quality, based under the current or similar config.
You can argue with me all you want. But, until you have a similar configuration, you do not qualify.
No, I don't own the SR60s. However, I have owned the RS1s and still own the own the PS1s. They're also easily driven headphones, but because of the quality of these headphones they're way too expensive to be considerd "iPod Grade".
The HD25-1s are not as easily driven as the Grados (SR60s, RS1s, PS1s), but at 70ohms they're pretty easily driven and the defacto standard for shotgun monitors (on-the-go monitors).
The ER·4s are much harder driven, and although they're not as good as the HD25-1s and the PS1 (or RS1s) they're precise and as such very revealing.
All those phones are way better than the SR60s, which, until recently was the cheapest low-end product Grado ever made.
I cannot believe you're trying to argue that your setup somehow magically makes the iPhone sound better than it would in my tests. I can't help but wonder what you know about audio in general and headphones in particular.
The SR-60s aren't "higher-end" headphones. They're certainly better than the ones that comes with the iPhone, but they will always be lower-end cans.
Further, with that last statement of yours (about the SR-60s being higher end), it really sheds some light to your claim that you have had custom molded Etymotics. Somehow I doubt it.
True, you claimed that in your first post, but then you went on to claim all sorts of things in later posts. And it is those claims I'm responding to.
And once more for Prince Knut:
When you make false blanket statements about the audio quality in your setup, I am going to respond. You trying to cover yourself behind me not having the same set up, and even inferring that your set-up magically sounds better than it would with the headphones I mentioned is simply just ignorant.
You really don't have a clue, do you?
Yeah, it's the second iteration of the iPhone.
And Apple Lossless is a Lossless (as in "No bit's thrown out") audio format. A track in lossless is about 60 percent of the size of the pcm-file (the track from the CD).
Wouldn't that be '3G + Apple Lossless + Grado'
NOT '3G+ Apple Lossless+ Grado'
Bad subject titles make people waste their time.
Tosser, I am tired, going to bed soon. Done arguing with you. In the full of wind category, you win. I did own a pair of ET's. I sold them on Amazon, and if I cared enough, I'd show you the link. Right now, I don't.
However, IMHO, I think the Grado SR60's have a higher fidelity and an overall more accurate and crisp sound than the ETs.
However, IMHO, I think the Grado SR60's have a higher fidelity and an overall more accurate and crisp sound than the ETs.
Funny. All I see is you making one unfounded claim after another, not realising how revealing your statements are, as to what you know about audio.
You claimed to have owned a pair of _custom-molded_ Etymotics. Yet, later on, you claim that the SR-60s are "higher end" headphones. Hence my doubt.
Really? I wonder what those Etymotics where? I'd like to see you qualify that claim with facts (as you know, one can measure accuracy and so on).
That, to me, means you had custom molds, but decided to sell the phones themselves, not that you had the standard ET·4s.
Anyway, even if they were standard, I can't help but wonder how on earth you can claim the SR60s to be higher-end headphones and that they're more accurate than ER·4s.
On the other hand, the ER·4Ps is made for portable players and have the bass "enhanced" (thus is not monitors anymore), so I'm not ruling out that they aren't as good as my ER·4Ss.
Once again, you utterly failed to qualify your claims. But I guess strawman argumentation and red herrings are the order of the day
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