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I just caught this interesting article on Wired that indirectly relates to the pending release of the Japanese iPhone and how it might be received here.

They definitely share Mavis's UI complaints regarding Japanese cellphones. ;)
I think the iPhone will take off once people see first hand what it's capable of (remember that YouTube video last summer at an izakaya in Tokyo where the dude was showing off the photo browser on his new iPhone and everyone in the place was literally SCREAMING about how cool it was?) ... Yeah. Definitely a 'need to see' thing. Because the specs alone aren't going to sell it (and people here love to see mile-long spec sheets, like that article you linked to pointed out) :)
 
Hmm ... just had an interesting chat with a friend of mine.

According to my friend, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications (MIC, essentially the Japanese FCC) requires between two and three months to test all handsets sold in Japan. There are apparently websites which show test results for handsets currently being tested. Apparently the iPhone has not been mentioned yet, at all. So either Apple forgot to grease some palms over at the MIC (is there such a thing as an honest government official over here?), the iPhone still hasn't started testing (meaning it's still at least two to three months away from launch) or it has all been kept hush hush (meaning Apple did their homework and paid off all the right people) ... I'm leaning towards the second option, which unfortunately means I might be stuck with this POS phone of mine for much longer than I'd hoped ... :(
 
I'm glad to be so wrong about this!!!! ;)

According to Apple, the iPhone 3G will be launched in Japan on the 11th of July! And since they've already promised a maximum worldwide price of $199, I think this thing is going to be flying off the shelves for quite some time. I only wish it was available in a 32GB configuration. :(
 
I'm glad to be so wrong about this!!!! ;)

According to Apple, the iPhone 3G will be launched in Japan on the 11th of July! And since they've already promised a maximum worldwide price of $199, I think this thing is going to be flying off the shelves for quite some time. I only wish it was available in a 32GB configuration. :(

21000 yen here for the 8GB model?!

It's almost too good to believe considering an 8GB iPod Touch is like 34000 yen. I will most definitely be switching from my piece of crap Toshiba 811T. :D

How did they get around the long approval process?
 
Wirelessly posted (iTouch 1.1.4 (pWN'd + JB'd): Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

SaSaSushi said:
I'm glad to be so wrong about this!!!! ;)

According to Apple, the iPhone 3G will be launched in Japan on the 11th of July! And since they've already promised a maximum worldwide price of $199, I think this thing is going to be flying off the shelves for quite some time. I only wish it was available in a 32GB configuration. :(

21000 yen here for the 8GB model?!

It's almost too good to believe considering an 8GB iPod Touch is like 34000 yen. I will most definitely be switching from my piece of crap Toshiba 811T. :D

How did they get around the long approval process?

I have no idea. Maybe it was just the right combination of drinking and soaplands. ;)
 
I'm glad to be so wrong about this!!!! ;)

According to Apple, the iPhone 3G will be launched in Japan on the 11th of July! And since they've already promised a maximum worldwide price of $199, I think this thing is going to be flying off the shelves for quite some time. I only wish it was available in a 32GB configuration. :(

Yeah...This is totally unexpected, in terms of timing and price.

I guess I'll settle for the 16 GB model. :p
 
Any word about pre-ordering? Will we be able to?

Do we have to wait in line at the Apple Store/Softbank location? If so, I hope they have enough stock. I don't want to be stuck waiting for months because I have to work on Friday.
 
The lack of video chat may be a deal breaker for me. :mad:
Really?? I've had video chat available on every phone I've owned for the past three or four years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used it. Impossible to use in public unless you either 1) have a headset or 2) are good at lipreading low-resolution, choppy, pixelated video. Not to mention the fact that it's exorbitantly expensive (and certainly wouldn't be included in the iPhone's flat rate, unlimited data allowance even if the iPhone were capable of it) ... I guess people just think video chat on a mobile is cool because it works fairly well on your desktop. But they're not at all the same. ;)

Any word about pre-ordering? Will we be able to?

Do we have to wait in line at the Apple Store/Softbank location? If so, I hope they have enough stock. I don't want to be stuck waiting for months because I have to work on Friday.
I called Softbank today and was told to check with the shop staff/manager at my nearest Softbank shop, as the decision to allow/not allow pre-ordering is apparently theirs to make. I'm in the same boat as you, the earliest I can get to a shop that day would be about 11:30am ... I swear, I'm gonna fly into a rage if they're already out of iPhones by then (considering that I've been chomping at the bit for this thing since it was first announced, eighteen months ago) ... ;)
 
I called Softbank today and was told to check with the shop staff/manager at my nearest Softbank shop, as the decision to allow/not allow pre-ordering is apparently theirs to make.

Sounds good. This is a case where I may have an advantage over you Tokyo guys being out in the sticks of Shikoku. I doubt many folks around here even know about the pending release or will be lining up for one. Then again, I'm sure they will have far less stock as well.

Apple Japan is mum on the issue with "details to come" and the release date and not much else on their iPhone info page.
 
If one buys an iphone in the US and pays early termination fee with Apple, and then moves to Japan, will they be able to use that phone with softbank?

Also, if one has a plan in the US and visits Japan, can one use wireless for free on 3g phone?

Cheers,

cfs
 
If one buys an iphone in the US and pays early termination fee with Apple, and then moves to Japan, will they be able to use that phone with softbank?

If you bought a 3G iPhone, I'm almost absolutely sure you could -- all the 3G iPhones are going to be the same model. You'd have to get a new SIM card though, I believe.

Also, if one has a plan in the US and visits Japan, can one use wireless for free on 3g phone?

By "wireless" I assume you mean Wi-Fi... There isn't a whole lot of open Wi-Fi here in Japan yet... theoretically I suppose you could. But phone service would certainly be subject to global-roaming charges.
 
If one buys an iphone in the US and pays early termination fee with Apple, and then moves to Japan, will they be able to use that phone with softbank?

You would have to find a way to unlock it, because the US phones will be locked to AT&T and won't work with a Softbank SIM. It remains to be seen if the 3G will be unlockable, and if so, how easily or what compromises will be made. Might be easier to just get a new iPhone from Softbank...

Also, if one has a plan in the US and visits Japan, can one use wireless for free on 3g phone?

No, the AT&T plan doesn't include any allowance for international usage, so you would be paying roaming fees per minute/KB to use it on another provider's network. You could use it for free on Wi-Fi, but public wi-fi hotspots are not that popular in Japan.
 
Has anyone picked on up here? I am in crummy Okinawa and I doubt I will be seeing any here for over a month.
 
You would have to find a way to unlock it, because the US phones will be locked to AT&T and won't work with a Softbank SIM. It remains to be seen if the 3G will be unlockable, and if so, how easily or what compromises will be made. Might be easier to just get a new iPhone from Softbank...



No, the AT&T plan doesn't include any allowance for international usage, so you would be paying roaming fees per minute/KB to use it on another provider's network. You could use it for free on Wi-Fi, but public wi-fi hotspots are not that popular in Japan.

All you would have to do would be to find a way to load Apple firmware for Japan instead of the US on the phone. Then you wouldn't need to unlock it. I am sure we will see unlocks within the month.
 
No, I'm not a big fan of Japan. The country is OK (I know there are worse places to be, although this is as close to third-world as I have ever experienced first hand) and some of the locals are friendly enough,

Third world? What the hell??? :confused:

You should go to a third world country, and then come back to Japan and count your lucky stars.
 
Third world? What the hell??? :confused:

You should go to a third world country, and then come back to Japan and count your lucky stars.

Personally, I rather like third-world countries. But you have a point -- Mavis, if this is as close to a third-world country as you've ever been, then you've never been anywhere close. On average, Japan is arguably more first-world than anywhere else in the world, except perhaps Scandinavia... and certainly more than many parts of the States. I've been through places in Appalachia that seemed positively third-world indeed.

What all this has to do with the iPhone is extremely tenuous.
 
Has anyone picked on up here? I am in crummy Okinawa and I doubt I will be seeing any here for over a month.

...nor will anyone else. The release date is JULY 11, in case you missed that.

And by the way, at this point we're all talking about the 3G iPhone, which from all appearances in Jobs's recent WWDC keynote, will have the same firmware everywhere. Multiple language support included, that you can toggle on the fly... Sounds like heaven!
 
Third world? What the hell??? :confused:

You should go to a third world country, and then come back to Japan and count your lucky stars.
Let's try to stay on topic. I don't want to get into a discussion about the dilapidated, run-down, filthy, disgusting, sweltering public buildings (schools, hospitals, etc) that I see every day here in Tokyo. Like I said, I know there are worse places in the world. I've just never seen one first hand in my short 32 years of life. ;)
Just one more thing... did y'all see that the "MobileMe" replacement for ".Mac" includes Push everything? Sweet. Calendars, contacts, email...
Yeah, that's VERY cool. So cool, in fact, that I just signed up for a .mac family plan - I wanted to get decent user names for my wife and mother-in-law before all the Windows people start hopping on the bandwagon :D ... It'll make it a lot easier to be able to remotely administer my mother-in-law's contacts and calendar, since she (like many Japanese people her age) doesn't own a computer. Plus, the ability to add to a gallery using pics taken on the iPhone sounds pretty cool - a nice way for my family to see what we're up to if we take a trip, etc. My grandma will love it!
 
Let's try to stay on topic. I don't want to get into a discussion about the dilapidated, run-down, filthy, disgusting, sweltering public buildings (schools, hospitals, etc) that I see every day here in Tokyo. Like I said, I know there are worse places in the world. I've just never seen one first hand in my short 32 years of life. ;)
Japan has plenty of run down places, but go to someplace like the Philippines and they you will really see poverty. I will be in Vietnam later this month and while I love Vietnam it reminds me how good we all have it.
 
Japan has plenty of run down places, but go to someplace like the Philippines and they you will really see poverty. I will be in Vietnam later this month and while I love Vietnam it reminds me how good we all have it.
Thanks, but can we please just drop it? We're all entitled to our own opinions. Someone asked mine and I made the mistake of answering when I was in a bad mood and this thread has suffered as a result. Let's just move on!!! ;)
 
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