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3G iPhone in May, Another Device at WWDC?
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Awe, come on, why you gotta be like that? You of all people should be excited about the possibilities of this technology happening (and where you heard it from!)
That's What She Said!!!
This thread about multitouch is just asking for it...
I will repeat again.
iPhone 3G will be announce at WWDC. With availability immediately or a week later.
AT&T vacation plans is just after WWDC.
Steve Jobs loves the limelight and he will introduce the new iPhone alongside the new software.
16gig $399
32gig $499
Sure, Steve can announce "one more thing" at WWDC, but there is no way the new iPhone will only show up without much fanfare.
If you look at WWDC schedule, there are tons of iPhone relate sessions and that's the best venue to make a huge splash. Also Apple and AT&T are using the time to clear all the inventory of the old iPhone.
WWDC, guys. Bet on it!
iPhone 3G will be announce at WWDC. With availability immediately or a week later.
AT&T vacation plans is just after WWDC.
Steve Jobs loves the limelight and he will introduce the new iPhone alongside the new software.
16gig $399
32gig $499
Sure, Steve can announce "one more thing" at WWDC, but there is no way the new iPhone will only show up without much fanfare.
If you look at WWDC schedule, there are tons of iPhone relate sessions and that's the best venue to make a huge splash. Also Apple and AT&T are using the time to clear all the inventory of the old iPhone.
WWDC, guys. Bet on it!
Exactly!
Aside from referring to philgilder's post as retarded, I completely agree with you. It makes the most sense for the firmware and the hardware to be released together. Releasing new hardware first with the same old firmware would not be understood by the general public or the media. I know plenty of people that are just like your roommate's girlfriend and would never know to upgrade to 2.0 or would do the upgrade (when prompted by iTunes) but would not understand what was different.
Of course, only time will tell who is right and I don't care who it is. I just want my 3G iPhone.
Aside from referring to philgilder's post as retarded, I completely agree with you. It makes the most sense for the firmware and the hardware to be released together. Releasing new hardware first with the same old firmware would not be understood by the general public or the media. I know plenty of people that are just like your roommate's girlfriend and would never know to upgrade to 2.0 or would do the upgrade (when prompted by iTunes) but would not understand what was different.
Of course, only time will tell who is right and I don't care who it is. I just want my 3G iPhone.
I've read a lot of the posts, but not all of them. I don't claim to be an expert about what Apple is going to do, but I don't get some of the comments.
If Apple waited to release new hardware and software - free software - at the same time, wouldn't everyone with the current iPhone at least try the new software on their phone? That being the case, what percentage of those users would opt for the same device with the new software? If they do that Apple make zero money. However, if new hardware was dangled in front of them for three-four weeks before they could get the software they might be tempted to buy the new hardware.
Additionally, introducing new hardware (iPhone 2) similar to current hardware (current iPhone) would surely sell. Add to that the possibility of a newer, smaller phone that could attract more customers and it would make sense to come out with something now. Dropping everything at once could cost Apple when all is said and done. When we talk about what makes sense it makes sense for them to do what they can to make the most money.
If Apple waited to release new hardware and software - free software - at the same time, wouldn't everyone with the current iPhone at least try the new software on their phone? That being the case, what percentage of those users would opt for the same device with the new software? If they do that Apple make zero money. However, if new hardware was dangled in front of them for three-four weeks before they could get the software they might be tempted to buy the new hardware.
Additionally, introducing new hardware (iPhone 2) similar to current hardware (current iPhone) would surely sell. Add to that the possibility of a newer, smaller phone that could attract more customers and it would make sense to come out with something now. Dropping everything at once could cost Apple when all is said and done. When we talk about what makes sense it makes sense for them to do what they can to make the most money.
Aside from referring to philgilder's post as retarded, I completely agree with you. It makes the most sense for the firmware and the hardware to be released together. Releasing new hardware first with the same old firmware would not be understood by the general public or the media. I know plenty of people that are just like your roommate's girlfriend and would never know to upgrade to 2.0 or would do the upgrade (when prompted by iTunes) but would not understand what was different.
Of course, only time will tell who is right and I don't care who it is. I just want my 3G iPhone.
As long as iPhones are connected to iTunes Apple can make people aware of downloads. They could just about force an update if they wanted.
What's the possibility of seeing a flip/clamshell version of the IPhone?
We have already seen a patent for such a device.... but again the same patent can hold true for a folding version of a tablet with touch keyboard as well!!
.... With
anything is possible... only time will tell.
We have already seen a patent for such a device.... but again the same patent can hold true for a folding version of a tablet with touch keyboard as well!!
.... With
anything is possible... only time will tell.
I guess we'll know more on uesday, ehh...
Apple seems to like Tuesdays to announce, right?
What has me curious is why Target has been doing promos on their touches and nano's.
First it was a $40 or $50 gift card with a touch and now a Burt's Bees gift set with a nano.
Are they not selling for some reason? Although I did get a 'brand new' touch that didn't come with the update apps on it from there.
'till Tuesday...
Oh, and the tablet mock ups? ICK!!! Too big and to strange. They'd have to be flash based too... To much potential for movement when it's running I'd think...
Apple seems to like Tuesdays to announce, right?
What has me curious is why Target has been doing promos on their touches and nano's.
First it was a $40 or $50 gift card with a touch and now a Burt's Bees gift set with a nano.
Are they not selling for some reason? Although I did get a 'brand new' touch that didn't come with the update apps on it from there.
'till Tuesday...
Oh, and the tablet mock ups? ICK!!! Too big and to strange. They'd have to be flash based too... To much potential for movement when it's running I'd think...
I will repeat again.
iPhone 3G will be announce at WWDC. With availability immediately or a week later.
AT&T vacation plans is just after WWDC.
Steve Jobs loves the limelight and he will introduce the new iPhone alongside the new software.
16gig $399
32gig $499
Sure, Steve can announce "one more thing" at WWDC, but there is no way the new iPhone will only show up without much fanfare.
If you look at WWDC schedule, there are tons of iPhone relate sessions and that's the best venue to make a huge splash. Also Apple and AT&T are using the time to clear all the inventory of the old iPhone.
WWDC, guys. Bet on it!
Thanks for the info Steve Jobs!
Possibilitiees:
1. iPhone(1st gen) becomes available again, shortage was due to the unforeseen factors[Burma??]. iPhone 3G released as expected in June. No dramas.
OR
2.iPhone 3G released next week without the conference or similar due to its similarity with current gen except the 3G related functions.[i.e. there are not any outstanding features that was not expected]
WWDC will be reserved for radical newly designed MB and MBP possibly with colour screen based muti touch trackpad which can be also used with Windows Sideshow. OR transparent trackpad which turns into multi touch trackpad with iPhone or iPod inserted[seems very unlikely though].
iPod Touch & iPhone wireless Sync and control ability also.
Just a wild wild wild.... guess
1. iPhone(1st gen) becomes available again, shortage was due to the unforeseen factors[Burma??]. iPhone 3G released as expected in June. No dramas.
OR
2.iPhone 3G released next week without the conference or similar due to its similarity with current gen except the 3G related functions.[i.e. there are not any outstanding features that was not expected]
WWDC will be reserved for radical newly designed MB and MBP possibly with colour screen based muti touch trackpad which can be also used with Windows Sideshow. OR transparent trackpad which turns into multi touch trackpad with iPhone or iPod inserted[seems very unlikely though].
iPod Touch & iPhone wireless Sync and control ability also.
Just a wild wild wild.... guess
Hah!
I'd love a flip version of the iphone. Tuesday?
What's the possibility of seeing a flip/clamshell version of the IPhone?
We have already seen a patent for such a device.... but again the same patent can hold true for a folding version of a tablet with touch keyboard as well!!
.... With
I'd love a flip version of the iphone. Tuesday?
I agree but that was not my point and I'm too tired to clarify.
I wonder how many posts this thread will get before the phone is actually announced...
I have a quick question about 3G in America, I saw AT&Ts coverage and it does cover the area I'm moving to soon, but when I click 3G coverage it shows me a fairly small list of cities.
Is that the only place I'll get 3G?
Is that the only place I'll get 3G?
I don't think this is very likely but I can't completely rule it out. I would think that a surprise iPhone Nano would be more likely. Either way I am waiting till after WWDC to get my iPhone 2.0
I think the Tablet would be marketed as a model above the iPod Touch, but what features would it add to the Touch to make it differentiated??? This is for the MacBook Touch people
I think the Tablet would be marketed as a model above the iPod Touch, but what features would it add to the Touch to make it differentiated??? This is for the MacBook Touch people
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Everyone knows what 3G is, Everyone knows what GPS is, so unless they have some kicka** new feature in the phone such as a video chat function, I don't see why they couldn't do a non-event release. We all know Software update 2.0 is coming.
There are no secrets as far as we know, so just release the damn thing!
There are no secrets as far as we know, so just release the damn thing!
ATT vacation block-out signifies entirely new product launch
I think people are forgetting that WWDC is a Developer's conference. They don't do hardware launches unless it is relevant to to the type of software the developer's are being asked to write. Some sort of tablet device announcement at WWDC is more plausible (than the second-gen iphone) because it would shed light on how apple plans to expand the touch interface to the desktop environment (which seems to be where it's all heading), and how developers would incorporate this new interface option into their programs. It would be an intermediate step towards this: https://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/21/advanced-multitouch-writing-without-a-stylus-and-more/) .
The SDK has already been released to developers so I don't see how launching the second gen iphone at the conference makes sense. It would definitely be frustrating to all the developers in the SDK-use streams at WWDC to be using old phones if a new one has just been announced for release in less than a month.
Also, since the ATT vacation block-out only starts mid June that would suggest the release of a new product (read: tablet thingy) at the end of June. Snowflakes chance in hell that Apple will wait that long to release the new iphones. I think it makes sense that Apple will release the 3G iphone before WWDC, and May sounds just fine to me.
I think people are forgetting that WWDC is a Developer's conference. They don't do hardware launches unless it is relevant to to the type of software the developer's are being asked to write. Some sort of tablet device announcement at WWDC is more plausible (than the second-gen iphone) because it would shed light on how apple plans to expand the touch interface to the desktop environment (which seems to be where it's all heading), and how developers would incorporate this new interface option into their programs. It would be an intermediate step towards this: https://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/21/advanced-multitouch-writing-without-a-stylus-and-more/) .
The SDK has already been released to developers so I don't see how launching the second gen iphone at the conference makes sense. It would definitely be frustrating to all the developers in the SDK-use streams at WWDC to be using old phones if a new one has just been announced for release in less than a month.
Also, since the ATT vacation block-out only starts mid June that would suggest the release of a new product (read: tablet thingy) at the end of June. Snowflakes chance in hell that Apple will wait that long to release the new iphones. I think it makes sense that Apple will release the 3G iphone before WWDC, and May sounds just fine to me.
I work as the Electronics Specialist at my Target store, so I can tell you about these sales. The gift card sales are just a sale that we seem to do every month or so on random iPods. We obviously don't drop prices on them, so we do gift card deals to stimulate other purchases. And the Burt's Bees deal was just a thing for Mother's Day.
And sorry about the problem with your Touch purchase. The people that stock them just look at the picture on the front and put it with like items, and the team members that work in that area probably just don't give a crap about it being in the right spot either
Why people keep assuming Apple must have some kind of press event for the release of the hardware is beyond me. The big news about the iPhone is the software (third-party apps, enterprise features, 2.0) and will come, sensibly enough, at WWDC. It doesn't make any sense for Apple to steal WWDC's thunder by hyping the new iPhone hardware. Instead, I suspect they'll release it, let the Mac sites, blogs and news media go to town with the excitement about it, and then they will extend that hype with the WWDC announcements. If Apple holds a press event for the hardware and hypes the rest at WWDC, they run the chance of overdoing it. If they lay low and coast on the initial hardware release and then pounce at WWDC, they get the most bang for their buck.
I think it would be a little embarrassing for Apple to hold press events for every iPhone announcement. It's a little too much "oh look, baby made another poo" kind of overindulgence. I think the hardware will come out with a low-key announcement and the real hype machine will start up at WWDC.
I think people are forgetting that WWDC is a Developer's conference. They don't do hardware launches unless it is relevant to to the type of software the developer's are being asked to write. Some sort of tablet device announcement at WWDC is more plausible (than the second-gen iphone) because it would shed light on how apple plans to expand the touch interface to the desktop environment (which seems to be where it's all heading), and how developers would incorporate this new interface option into their programs. It would be an intermediate step towards this: https://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/21/advanced-multitouch-writing-without-a-stylus-and-more/) .
The SDK has already been released to developers so I don't see how launching the second gen iphone at the conference makes sense. It would definitely be frustrating to all the developers in the SDK-use streams at WWDC to be using old phones if a new one has just been announced for release in less than a month.
Also, since the ATT vacation block-out only starts mid June that would suggest the release of a new product (read: tablet thingy) at the end of June. Snowflakes chance in hell that Apple will wait that long to release the new iphones. I think it makes sense that Apple will release the 3G iphone before WWDC, and May sounds just fine to me.
Bingo!
Not even close to the same markets!
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First; they are not even remotely in the same ball park as far as usage or targeted markets.
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More so many of us simply find the current iPhone just to small for some of the uses we could put it to. As long as this guy can fit into a pocket we are all set.
Frankly the only thing this rumors does or will do is to keep me from buying anything until after WWDC.
Dave
1.
First; they are not even remotely in the same ball park as far as usage or targeted markets.
2.
More so many of us simply find the current iPhone just to small for some of the uses we could put it to. As long as this guy can fit into a pocket we are all set.
Frankly the only thing this rumors does or will do is to keep me from buying anything until after WWDC.
Dave
If iPhone2 does come out in May, then I really do think you will want to wait. No body seems to have any idea what this new device will do for us, but if it has cell capability it will be an absolute smash.
Dave