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1) It should have had MMS to start with. Also, what's the name of the app that'll give the iPhone 2.0 MMS?
2) Those so called video applications shoot at 6-15 FPS (with the higher rates only available if you encode at end of session) which is rubbish. Oh and you have to crack the phone to use it.

You do make me laugh.
This is MMS for 1.1.4, it'll probably be upgraded to 2.0:

http://www.swirlyspace.com/iphone/apps/mms/
 
Yes, but you have to crack your phone. It doesn't support it natively and if Apple allow v1.0 to use third party apps you're still going to have to pay for it.

Crack your phone? Not in June.
 

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Yes, but you have to crack your phone. It doesn't support it natively and if Apple allow v1.0 to use third party apps you're still going to have to pay for it.
What? No, you will be able to release software for free via the App Store if you so wish.
 
My understanding was that k = 1000 x and Ki = 1024, likewise, GiB was a real gigabyte (1024 x 1024 x 1024) and GB was just giga, ie. x 1 000 000 000 bytes. Which link were you reading up on? At least with kilo/kila, if you type K or k, we know what you mean, unlike m = milli (10^-3) and M = mega (10^6). It doesn't really matter I guess, I've just always seen it as lower case k, and will continue to use it that way.

Yeah, the Ki amd Gi stand for the correct data equivalents. I found it on wikipedia. I'll continue to use kb though. I hate KiB and GiB. I makes me want to read it as gig-i-byte instead of gig-a-byte. It messes with my head.

It used to be KB back in the day. But you're right, there's really nothing to confuse it with. m and M on the other hand...although there isn't a millibyte :)
 
There is something a bit whiffy about this report.

I don't think the NextG network that is being referred to will be capable of 42 Mbs until nearly Christmas 2009.
You're right there ... Tel$tra is trying to dish up it's usual crap to oversell its network. Any bets when they launch it, they'll have in the fine print something like:
## Speeds up to 42Mbps are available in selected areas. Other areas have speeds up to 7.2Mbps. NextG is not available in all areas. Speeds are based on Telstra tests in a site located within Telstra's network. The actual speed for a member may be slower and varies due to many factors including plan selected, member location, method of data transmission (protocol), internet traffic, capacity and popularity of websites, modem and computer hardware used and software configuration. For most customers, the actual download speed will be slower than our top speeds, but customers can still achieve superfast broadband speeds.
Basically, what Tel$tra would tell you here is that if you get any wireless access speed that is faster than say ~3.6Mbps, they would be meeting their end of the contract. Their T's & C's give them such latitude that it's a joke ... and they get away with it!! :mad:

You could say that the only reason Telstra has 3G now is because it was privatised and subject to competition, but strangely, there are a lot of romantics with a socialist bent who still believe Telstra should be government owned, which would somehow miraculously reduce prices.
Agree here ... I would have thought that the best result when Tel$tra was privatised would be to split the company up (like what happened to the Power Company in Victoria - i.e. SEC) into infrastructure (i.e. Physical Network and Mobile Towers), Wholesale (i.e. sell telecommunications services using the infrastructure onto resellers / retailers) and Retail (i.e. the Tel$tra brand that we all buy services from). Then, all resellers purchase at a standard wholesale price from the Wholesaler, and introduces competition as all companies start on a level playing field. The Government could have kept ownership of Infrastructure and Wholesale, but privatised the retail.

I think balance is the key here ... not one extreme or the other (i.e. wholly privatised or wholly government owned).
 
Agree here ... I would have thought that the best result when Tel$tra was privatised would be to split the company up (like what happened to the Power Company in Victoria - i.e. SEC) into infrastructure (i.e. Physical Network and Mobile Towers), Wholesale (i.e. sell telecommunications services using the infrastructure onto resellers / retailers) and Retail (i.e. the Tel$tra brand that we all buy services from). Then, all resellers purchase at a standard wholesale price from the Wholesaler, and introduces competition as all companies start on a level playing field. The Government could have kept ownership of Infrastructure and Wholesale, but privatised the retail.

I think balance is the key here ... not one extreme or the other (i.e. wholly privatised or wholly government owned).
From the sounds of it, Telsa is like Ma Bell was here?
 
Ok, I have read this forum and have a tough time understand a few because I am not as up-to-date on some language as others

- People keep debating what chip the new iPhone will have. What difference does it make?

- Some keep putting down speeds that AT&T wants by 2009. Is that reality for what we should expect on our phones 3G wise or is that wishful thinking by AT&T and/or maybe them discussing what the MAX could be?
 
Ok, I have read this forum and have a tough time understand a few because I am not as up-to-date on some language as others

- People keep debating what chip the new iPhone will have. What difference does it make?

- Some keep putting down speeds that AT&T wants by 2009. Is that reality for what we should expect on our phones 3G wise or is that wishful thinking by AT&T and/or maybe them discussing what the MAX could be?
Now im no expert on this stuff, but I'll try to explain a bit.

The chip, which many expect to be in the iPhone, has a theoretical limit of something like 7.2 Mbps, no where near this 42 Mbps Telstra is claiming. In fact, there are NO chips available that can reach those speeds.

At&t's update, as far as I know, is purely software related. They are updating their network from HSDPA to HSUPA.

HSDPA (old)
Theoretical speeds: 3.6 Mbps
Real Life speeds: 400 Kbps to 700 Kbps

HSUPA (new)
Theoretical speeds: 20 Mbps
Real Life speeds: 4 Mbps to 6 Mbps

So even though we won't reach the theoretical speeds, people will witness a pretty large bump.
 
Now im no expert on this stuff, but I'll try to explain a bit.

The chip, which many expect to be in the iPhone, has a theoretical limit of something like 7.2 Mbps, no where near this 42 Mbps Telsa is claiming. In fact, there are NO chips available that can reach those speeds.

At&t's update, as far as I know, is purely software related. They are updating their network from HSDPA to HSUPA.

HSDPA (old)
Theoretical speeds: 3.6 Mbps
Real Life speeds: 400 Kbps to 700 Kbps

HSUPA (new)
Theoretical speeds: 20 Mbps
Real Life speeds: 4 Mbps to 6 Mbps

So even though we won't reach the theoretical speeds, people will witness a pretty large bump.

First of all, it's Telstra. We're playing telephone on the internet apparently. One more step and you guys will be calling it Tesla. :)

Second, HSDPA and HSUPA are completely separate from each other. They already had HSDPA (which they are upgrading) and to that, they've added HSUPA (i.e. upgrading the base upload of UMTS to HSUPA).
 
Background for non-Australians.

If what he is saying is true it represents a double leak. I think he may have the network side true, but the device side maybe inaccurate.

Telstra has surprised us twice before. They are very much like Apple in secrecy regarding their network.

The network is built by Ericsson and is their flagship network. All HSPA technologies will go on this network first. The network was built in 10 months from contract signed to customers buying in store. An average of one base station was built every 25 minutes night and day over this period.

The network was built to replace their CDMA EV-DO network. To further complicate the build, it was run in the same frequency allocation at the same time with live customers in both during the build and migration of customers.

Even days before its public launch, competitors were dismissing it as impossible to build in 18 months. Telstra surprised everyone by publically lying and saying it was months off.

It covers 2 million square kilometres (25% of Australia's land mass and almost 99% of the population)

They enabled 14.4Mbit HSDPA and 5.76Mbit HSUPA in Feb last year. There are still no devices that support it.

They may activate 42Mbit on the network before years end. The fastest chipsets available at that stage however will only support 21Mbit with one antenna or 28Mbit with two.

Qualcomm has announcing that it'll be setting up HSPA+ trials with Australia's Telstra. Ericsson does the network side, so the Qualcomm link is only for the client devices.

If the iPhone is to support HSPA+ speeds it means they have switched to Qualcomm as the baseband supplier and has early access to the QSC7230 or MDM8200. No other baseband vendor is as far ahead as Qualcomm.

Otherwise, I would have thought the 7.2Mbit HSDPA/5.76Mbit HSUPA/EDGE QSD8250 looks great for the iPhone as it pretty much incorporates an entire iPhone in a unified chipset solution, and has been shipping for a while (Hi Perf GPU, WiFi, Bluetooth, Baseband and iPhone compatible 1GHz ARM11 CPU. It also brings GPS and HD video decode). It would give the iPhone a leap ahead in battery life over a multi chip solution using S-Gold3H.

The QSD8250 was announced in Nov 2006 and began shipping in Nov 2007. It's like a super version of the Broadcom chip that was once rumoured for the iPhone but won't be shipping for a while.
 
So why isn't ATT doing this in the US? We're AMERICA!! And the ausssies are going to beat us?

Because those damn Australians are so much less important then Americans right?

And you wonder why people think Americans are stuck up...


Ugh.


But I'm excited for this!

-Canadian
 
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