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3GS very different than the 3G. Stop saying it's not.
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Why do you think that is?
If it featured a significantly better processor and double the RAM, don't you think they would have at least mentioned it? Instead they gave us a few benchmarks about such-and-such site loading 2x faster. They did the same thing when the 3G launched (as they do with battery life figures) and we all know how accurate that turned out to be...
I would not be surprised at all if it is the same processor running at it's rated speed. I am expecting there's the same amount of RAM too (although it could be higher quality/faster bus speed).
Because Apple has never talked about iPhone's internal hardware before, even developers haven't been given exact details about iPhone's hardware. We all know how secretive Apple is, don't we?
I don't claim to have any details, but I do think the hardware improvements are significant, and double the RAM. We'll just have to wait for someone to tear an iPhone 3G S apart.
Battery life ratings have never been accurate from any manufacturer, it isn't just exclusive to Apple.
They didn't mention it, because it's not a computer, it's a phone. the average buyer does not care about specs in a phone. that's why.
All i wanted was 32gb and I got it - finally i can replace my iPod touch 32gb. i don't need a frontfacing camera, i don't need a silly flashing apple logo and i do not need a flash at all.
and why is it necessary to change the design every release? always complaining "it looks the same" (whether a phone or a macbook) is annoying. why change a working design? not changing it means the accessoires will still work (at least on design level).
i'm happy and it is a major update, not only a speed bump or minor feature adding.
I bought a refurb first-gen at $250 late into its life. I held off on a 3G because I really wanted 32GB (or more) and didn't want to be the first dude finding out all the problems with 3G in Apple's products. So I patiently waited and am getting my 32GB iPhone 3G-S with even more features than I planned. I'm REALLY glad to have voice controls again. I loved the smart voice controls my Razr had a few years ago. Apple went way past that.
My only complaint is that you can't remote wipe without Mobile Me. I think the "find my phone" thing is a good addition to Mobile Me, but I just wish the remote wipe was standard with any phone.
I'm not going to quote you all, as that would take the entire night and I'm not prepared to spend that much time on something so worthless.
I will say a few words:
1) HSDPA is available in other countries yes, but who is the majority of Apple's iPhone userbase?
2) Apple also said 3G was next to Wifi speeds, no one has seen even remotely close to those speeds. And now all of a sudden you believe their hardware speeds. You people need to stop being so naive. You believe Apple's press conferences to be 100% accurate and not the slightest sales pitch.
Yea, the 3GS is a bit faster than the 3G. Not nearly the difference between the 3G and EDGE and nearly as highly sought after as GPS.
3) Why not enable background apps and just say "it will drain the battery"? I'd rather it drain my battery and have, than not at all.
4) Any one that wants to directly publish video to youtube will need 3GS, anyone who just wants to take video can jb a 3G.
You people treat a compass as if its gods gift. Or Nike+ as if Apple cured cancer. There are a ton more features that could have been added and would have been a lot more significant.
I realize none of you will accept this, but the updates included in the 3GS are rather novel. Apple didn't even rename the phone since its such a minor update.
I realize you won't come down from your loft, and maybe you shouldn't have to. Ignorance is bliss. So I'll leave you be.
I will say a few words:
1) HSDPA is available in other countries yes, but who is the majority of Apple's iPhone userbase?
2) Apple also said 3G was next to Wifi speeds, no one has seen even remotely close to those speeds. And now all of a sudden you believe their hardware speeds. You people need to stop being so naive. You believe Apple's press conferences to be 100% accurate and not the slightest sales pitch.
Yea, the 3GS is a bit faster than the 3G. Not nearly the difference between the 3G and EDGE and nearly as highly sought after as GPS.
3) Why not enable background apps and just say "it will drain the battery"? I'd rather it drain my battery and have, than not at all.
4) Any one that wants to directly publish video to youtube will need 3GS, anyone who just wants to take video can jb a 3G.
You people treat a compass as if its gods gift. Or Nike+ as if Apple cured cancer. There are a ton more features that could have been added and would have been a lot more significant.
I realize none of you will accept this, but the updates included in the 3GS are rather novel. Apple didn't even rename the phone since its such a minor update.
I realize you won't come down from your loft, and maybe you shouldn't have to. Ignorance is bliss. So I'll leave you be.
1) yes usa is sooo important, in fact its the only country in the whole world that counts. may be there are so many iphones there because its a big country, but i could be wrong...
3) maybe background apps are not ready yet? we know apple wants everything to be special, maybe they need a little more time
there are always tons of features that could have been included and no one forces apple to add features or releasing a new phone at all, and no one forces you to like it.
I bump this comment. This is pretty much what I'm thinking.
Besides, JB your 3G and download Backgrounder. A JB 3G iphone competes with a palm pre.
The $200 price is only for the people that haven't bought a 3g phone yet, and even then apple figures that they might not really want to pay the $200 price, so thats why they are keeping the 3G for $99.
If you feel otherwise, consider yourself an apple fanboy, and admit that you like to buy the latest apple equipment. Its no shame really, there are many many people who are fanboys and always buy the latest equipment. I think pride and status enter into it. But apple isn't complaining, and neither is uncle sam and our economy.
I'm sorry, you'll eventually have to admit it to yourself, that if apple thought the new 3G S was so awesome and superior to the 3G, then, they would discontinue the 3G and only offer the 3G S, like they did with the original iphone 2G when the 3G came out.
Actually they do. All the 3G towers in my state were upgraded to 7.2 Mbps HSDPA a couple of weeks ago. AT&T is upgrading many if not all their 3G towers to support it this year and next year. Why wouldn't they put it in. Even if AT&T didn't support it they aren't the only carriers of the iPhone.
One piece of proof how different the 3GS is: (quoted from The Register)
That means pulling up a javascript-laden web page will be more than 8x faster (!!!) than the 3G running 2.2.1, and almost 3x faster than the 3G running 3.0 (which few of us have experienced yet).
8x faster... that will be very, very noticeable.
It's like trading in a Hummer for a Ferrari.
"He also noted that Apple's testing showed the 3G S to perform the SunSpider benchmark in 15 seconds, compared with an iPhone 3G running iPhone Software 2.2.1's 126 seconds and a 3G running Software 3.0's 43 seconds. Note, though, that SunSpider tests only the performance of the JavaScript engine."
That means pulling up a javascript-laden web page will be more than 8x faster (!!!) than the 3G running 2.2.1, and almost 3x faster than the 3G running 3.0 (which few of us have experienced yet).
8x faster... that will be very, very noticeable.
It's like trading in a Hummer for a Ferrari.
Oh god here we go. I never felt my iPhone (2G or 3G) was underpowered. Things like copy and paste were pointless, I have never used that on a phone. The iPhone was miles ahead of other phones the second the app store was made, and I will argue with you all day on this topic.
I hate how so many people say the iPhone was lagging behind other phones all these years but NEVER gives an example comparison device.
you seem to be misunderstanding...
the 3g is not a FASTER phone than the edge phone....it just happens to have 3g radio and the other does not..
the 3g s is faster than the 3g in ALL aspects..not just the cellular radio.
the processor is over twice as powerful while using less battery..there is twice the memory...and the graphics chip has been improved..
I dont understand how everyone is just ignoring these important facts and whining about the LOOKS of the phone or the minor 3g upgrade.
Because too many people are never satisfied and feel like Apple owes them everything they want.
Windows Mobile Voice Command has been around for years, does all the same controls, plus a lot more.
Not only can you dial the phone and control music, but you can also ask about your appointments, get them and texts read to you, ask for your battery status, switch ringer and airplane modes, launch applications, and more.
A sample list of commands is here. Note that one of the neat things you could use it for is to take command of multitasking. If Pandora is in the background, just say "show Pandora" to bring it forward.
Even better, any WM 5+ phone can use it, not just the latest and fastest. It'd have been nice if Apple had at least offered theirs for sale to previous iPhone owners.
You do not know any of that as a fact. Apple gave you some examples, an optimized java enabled page and 4 apps.
You have no idea about the ram, it could be the same for all you know.
You know nothing of what is inside of that phone. To speak otherwise is completely naive. Once someone does an unraveling, then come tell me whats improved. Until then I will stay with the standard ratio of what apple has said in conferences and what the end user actually sees (see EDGE, 3G etc).
I was not saying the 3G was a faster phone, I was saying the EDGE to 3G upgrade was more significant and highly sought after than any of the upgrades added to the 3G S. Please, don't put words in my mouth.
hmm I see your point.
hmmm okay, I see your point with the 3GS, but I still feel squeamish about shelling out several hundred dollars for a speed bump (without testing out the 3Gs first personally). I guess I'll just have to wait until after June 19th - no pre orders for me.
hmmm okay, I see your point with the 3GS, but I still feel squeamish about shelling out several hundred dollars for a speed bump (without testing out the 3Gs first personally). I guess I'll just have to wait until after June 19th - no pre orders for me.
If you dont feel like doing it, just dont do it. What is so hard about that?
Have you been forced to buy a new car when the next years model comes out?