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He's got the money and making youtube videos is his livelihood, so why not?

He has no livelihood, he is still in School! He has got money from payment from manufacturers and ads. And why would you buy a camera used to make the latest Hollywood summer blockbuster to make You Tube videos? It's pointless considering the compression You Tube applies to the videos.
 
Here is a test with rocks on pure sapphire vs gorilla glass? Are rocks and sandpaper the same?



http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...d-the-next-hot-thing-in-touchscreens/#!biijqM


Similar to sandpaper.


He has no livelihood, he is still in School! He has got money from payment from manufacturers and ads. And why would you buy a camera used to make the latest Hollywood summer blockbuster to make You Tube videos? It's pointless considering the compression You Tube applies to the videos.


School costs money. I was dirt poor going through college because of tuition costs and my part time job was my livelihood. Marques has worked hard for his money so he deserves it.
 
This. Or not even a final build of it.

I'm not sure you understand how hard it is to change something design related this close to a release. If they were to change something now, the phone would not be released in September.

The phone design and material selection is done. Guaranteed. This is the final build.
 
I'm not sure you understand how hard it is to change something design related this close to a release. If they were to change something now, the phone would not be released in September.

The phone design and material selection is done. Guaranteed. This is the final build.
Well that's pointless then. Wonder if they're even gonna tout the screen at all.
 
This is being presented as a sapphire display for the next iPhone. Whether or not it is actually used in the next iPhone, it was pretty clear that the panel shown in the video had little benefit over Gorilla Glass 3. If this is indeed sapphire-infused or whatever, the entire "sapphire" selling point would be a gimmick.







Please elaborate on how I am an Android fanboy. :rolleyes:


I wouldnt call it a gimmick any part thats only been hurt by sandpaper, an arrow and a car is not a gimmick really
 
Well, I guess I'll have to stop carrying sandpaper around. Like I usually do.

That's really going to throw off my workflow. I like to always be prepared with different kinds of sandpaper and I'm always sure to store them right next to my phone. Lol
 
The screen is less likely to scratch than the one of the 5s, what is there not to like? Nobody can be disappointed really, as Apple have made no promises whatsoever. My 5s's screen has no scratches so far (got it when it went on sale).
 
For those complain of scratches, what in the hell do you do with you phones? I've never had a single scratch on any phone screen in my life, including my current iPhone 5. People must be abusing these phones, and those people should be abused as well (verbally). What happened to common sense, plus Gorilla Glass is on the iPhone 5.

People pay a small fortune for these phones and don't have the common sense and / or ability to look after these devices. A lot of pressure / height is required to break a Gorilla Glass screen - so what are people doing to these phones?

I dropped my current iPhone 5s a total of two times. Once on carpet (I was drunk and knocked it off my desk - lol), and the second time, I was in my kitchen, and the phone fell off my lap underneath the table near the corner of the room where there must have been some dust/dirt. I now have 2 scratches on my screen. One is a small nick (but easily visible under sunlight), the second is a deeper nick which is about an inch long, and must have been from a dirt/harder particle that the screen slid up against. I was really mad that my first screen drop on a hard surface resulted in a pretty nasty scratch.
 
He is sponsored, you don't make enough money from You Tube ads alone to buy the kit he does, I sub to enough channels to know that, and recently it was exposed how games developers pay large sums to You Tube channels to influence their reviews of the games, and that included that Boogie2988 aka Francis guy who apparently thinks simply claiming he has been paid tons by Microsoft lets him off the hook :eek:

You should get some common sense mate, Marques is getting paid a lot of money. I even sub to one person who has 80k subs, not the 1.4 million Marques does, but she was sent to the last Olympics and then CES all paid for by Sony, complete with tons of Sony gadgets! Just so they would promote them and give their kit glorious reviews.

So yeah, trust me manufactures pay these channel makers a LOT of money to have their products promoted, the more subs and views they have the more corrupt and biased they most likely are.

Man, you don't know squat about Youtube revenue. Learn some facts before you post your false assumptions.


I love all these Apple lemming calling MKBHD an Android fanboy. Talk about a bunch of little black pots....
 
Doesn't a lot of sandpaper and other abrasives contain silicon carbide, which is a 9.4 on the Mohs hardness scale? That could explain the scratching.
 
What are you talking about? Your link was just to the optical data sheet for the material. I already have these bookmarked because this is what I do for a living. When you say "shallow angle" are you talking with respect to the surface normal or the plane of the glass? As mentioned before, there is no change in angle, but there is a lateral shift. Without precision lab equipment you aren't going to be able to measure this very well. If you just happened to have the two materials (different glass substrates) and can swap them out from the same holder, and have everything is set fixtures, an input angle of 70 degrees (relative to surface normal) on a 0.5mm substrate will only give you a 0.1mm lateral shift in spot position, and very elongated spots. How are you going to measure this with any precision in your implied hand-held laser pointer test. I still think you believe you are going to get a different angle out, as your original post stated. You will not. n1*sin(theta1) = n2*sin(theta2). You start with theta1 (input angle) and get theta2 in the glass. The equation is then reversible. This means that if there is no wedge to the substrate you get the exact same angle again when it returns to air. No change in angle. You only get a very small lateral shift in position of the spot. The link you sent contains a REFLECTION calculator, not a REFRACTION calculator. I don't think you understood the page you used. The angle doesn't change (unless you can figure out how to measure it inside the glass), but the amount of reflection does. Look back at my earlier post and you will see I've already mentioned this. And, btw, your eye isn't good at telling you how bright something looks relates to the power in it.

OK linked the wrong calculator. I know it's the same angle out. It's been a while for me though. What does the angle of incidence need to be to get a 1cm lateral shift from synthetic sapphire, and what would the angle need to be for GG (or plain glass if GG specs aren't easily available)? That panel looked more like at least 1mm to me and more like 2mm thick, so go with 2mm? Are the angles different enough you could tell with a decent protractor?
 
5 pages of posts and not one mention of the fact that most superficial scratches are to the oleophobic coating and not the material? For all we know the scratches were done to that coating and the material underneath is made of sapphire. The truth is we won't know until it's formally released.
 
This becomes an issue if you get sand in your pocket, as that is mostly made of Quartz (7 on mohs scale — see first sandpaper test).

I always carry sand in my pocket.
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Not much info available for Gorilla Glass III
There's no descriptive definition which tells us about bend ability
At this point it's hard to figure out if the videos showing the IPhone 6 screen are really Sapphire
 
Frankly I'd be happier if they just use next gen gorilla glass (save that money for other updates to the phone) and keep sapphire for other "unannounced" products in the pipeline.

I mean spend that $25 a phone on making the iphone spill/water resistant - I'd choose that any day over a sapphire display. JMHO...
 
5 pages of posts and not one mention of the fact that most superficial scratches are to the oleophobic coating and not the material? For all we know the scratches were done to that coating and the material underneath is made of sapphire. The truth is we won't know until it's formally released.

Does that matter in the slightest? A scratch is a scratch, or can scratches in the coating be removed?
 
5 pages of posts and not one mention of the fact that most superficial scratches are to the oleophobic coating and not the material? For all we know the scratches were done to that coating and the material underneath is made of sapphire. The truth is we won't know until it's formally released.

I think a lot of superficial scratches people see are in the oleophobic coating. But sandpaper will go through that coating easily.

It's hard to draw any conclusions from this leaked part but if it is a laminate with the top layer being sapphire then the sandpaper shouldn't scratch it at all.
 
Can we all just take a moment to realize that one phone that does use pure sapphire for its display, the Vertu Signature Touch, cost upwards of $11,000. Now thats not to say that cost comes purely from the display nor that its impossible to make a pure sapphire display to sell on the iPhone at a reasonable retail price.......buuuuut, with that in mind maybe a composite display doesn't sound so bad...
 
Rumors suggest sapphire might only be used on higher end phones, so its possible this part is not it.

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The only thing consistent at this point is nobody really knows anything!!!
 
He is sponsored, you don't make enough money from You Tube ads alone to buy the kit he does, I sub to enough channels to know that, and recently it was exposed how games developers pay large sums to You Tube channels to influence their reviews of the games, and that included that Boogie2988 aka Francis guy who apparently thinks simply claiming he has been paid tons by Microsoft lets him off the hook :eek:

You should get some common sense mate, Marques is getting paid a lot of money. I even sub to one person who has 80k subs, not the 1.4 million Marques does, but she was sent to the last Olympics and then CES all paid for by Sony, complete with tons of Sony gadgets! Just so they would promote them and give their kit glorious reviews.

So yeah, trust me manufactures pay these channel makers a LOT of money to have their products promoted, the more subs and views they have the more corrupt and biased they most likely are.

regardless of any of that, IMO MKBHD is not biased
 
Regardless of the outcome of the scratch tests, I really like this guy as a presenter. He should have some kind of TV show :)
 
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