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If the video is accurate then the panel is likely a sapphire composite rather than pure sapphire.

Would you rather have imitation cheese or 100% real cheese? Or beef patties made with animal organs or 100% beef?
This stuff is not true sapphire. It's a cheap imitation that is better than the current iPhone display but not as good as true sapphire. It's a hybrid glass.
 
Would you rather have imitation cheese or 100% real cheese? Or beef patties made with animal organs or 100% beef?
This stuff is not true sapphire. It's a cheap imitation that is better than the current iPhone display but not as good as true sapphire. It's a hybrid glass.

Maybe there is a reason not to use 100% sapphire?
 
Would you rather have imitation cheese or 100% real cheese? Or beef patties made with animal organs or 100% beef?
This stuff is not true sapphire. It's a cheap imitation that is better than the current iPhone display but not as good as true sapphire. It's a hybrid glass.

This whole thread is rediculous speculation with almost zero science. Even a univ chem lab could just run the stuff through a mass spectrometer, even just one of the remaining fragments, and we would know what's in there. My guess is that the panel came from a goo phone, as have many of these "leaks."
 
4.7-Inch iPhone 6 Front Panel Subjected to More Rigorous Scratch Tests, May N...

Erm? No, not really. I don't think he's very moral.


Seriously? Wow. Lol. If you've got a bone to pick, msg Marques directly.
 
Does everyone hate screen protectors?

I don't see what the big deal is. I don't care if it's sapphire,diamond or gorilla glass or regular glass. I'll put a tempered glass screen protector on it no matter what material it's made of. With a tempered glass screen protector I can't even tell its on my 5s. I've used a power support screen protector on every iPhone since ( I hate zagg screen protectors though) the 1st iPhone. This year I've switched to the tempered glass and I'm never switching to anything els. With the iPhone 6 I'll simply use another tempered glass one once they're made, regardless of what the screen is made of.
 
Maybe there is a reason not to use 100% sapphire?

If I had to guess, & bear in mind this is a complete guess, it might be manufactured this way in order to increase flexibility (reducing brittleness= decreasing the chance of a shattered screen when dropped), while increasing scratch resistance with sapphire's properties. I could be totally wrong though...
 
A report last month claimed that Apple would only be using a sapphire display in the larger 5.5-inch iPhone 6 over concerns about high cost and limited supply.
So let me get this straight.

- Apple wants to use sapphire, but it's too expensive and limited in supply.

- Apple co-builds sapphire factory to cut costs and increase supply.

- Apple can't use sapphire in next phone because it's too expensive and limited in supply.

Is it just me, or are analysts useless? :rolleyes:
 
I seriously doubt AAPL is going to put sapphire on the new iphone. I think whatever partnerships they made were to produce sapphire for their watches.
 
If I had to guess, & bear in mind this is a complete guess, it might be manufactured this way in order to increase flexibility (reducing brittleness= decreasing the chance of a shattered screen when dropped), while increasing scratch resistance with sapphire's properties. I could be totally wrong though...

Thats kind of what I was thinking... I dont know jack about this stuff, but maybe pure sapphire doesnt make a great screen. They may have went with a best of both worlds material.
 
Let just face it guys and understand that Apple is very good at marketing and getting their customers to believe anything they want us to believe in. From what I understand the harder the glass the less flexable and easier it is to crack. So I'm guessing that why the new iPhones will not be 100 sapphire . :)
 
Yes, I was also wondering why this guy was using such primitive test methods. Scratching with sand paper is not very accurate. A soft object can scratch a harder object. The softer part just sees more wear.

Even soft wood can wear down the sandpaper and reduce the size of the abrasive grains.

As quoted above measuring the refractive index is a good high school physics project. Also they could take a sample of the "glass" and measure its density.

I could think of a few tests that would determine if the glass is laminated or a solid substance.


No, a softer object does not scratch a harder object. The grain size in sandpaper does not get reduced by use on wood. The grains get dislodged from the matrix holding them. The mineral grains could polish down wood for thousands of years if held properly, until the trace harder elements in the wood eventually have some impact.

Measuring index of refraction is a good high school physics project if the you are measuring in immersion. For a single interface it makes a great experiment. The problem is when you have two identical, planar interfaces with a small separation. No high school that I know if in the country has the tools to solve this.

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This whole thread is rediculous speculation with almost zero science. Even a univ chem lab could just run the stuff through a mass spectrometer, even just one of the remaining fragments, and we would know what's in there. My guess is that the panel came from a goo phone, as have many of these "leaks."

Actually, this is true. Any engineering university could tell you within hours what constituents are in this, if not the specific makeup. The same with other labs I've mentioned in the past. The opportunity cost spent in debating this could have paid for a clear answer 5 times over.
 
…until they shatter it and need to replace it. Then, they will learn that the replacement is only available from Apple and will cost a lot more than any replacement they've ever bought for any iDevice to date.

...or the devices will no longer need Digitizer and/or LCD replacement due to drops, damage (probably liquid contact and maybe submersion at some near point as recently seen by other MFG's).

Been on both sides of the court as someone working in the retail/repair industry for both the big guy and independently owned locations, a town district-wide Mac admin, and as an everyday consumer. These things are basically Tonka trucks for adults. Beat them to hell but the still work like the day you bought it.

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No. It's an "intended-for-leaking" prototype.

Apple leaks these faux pieces on purpose. It's one of the few ways they can keep people guessing as to what products they are actually going to release.

but can't there be situations where it could hurt them? For example, in this instance what if sapphire was never even considered to begin with (as if the whole sapphire idea was to throw the followers off completely)? Or is that taking it too far? How would apple "leak" something to this guy specifically? Did they manage to salt a wholesaler they know he would buy it from?
 
Here's Jony Ive's face after he reads all these rumors about what Apple may or may not be doing: :D

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Win. Thank you for that!

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it will actually make a lot more sense to me if the sapphire was used on the back cover instead of the display....

i never worry about my display as much as i worry about scratching the hell out of the back cover !

Different strokes...Just like any display I own (my TV for example) I would much rather have a nasty scrape across the back of it than the front of it given a choice. With how things may or may not go, it may not even matter at some point on either side.
 
So the glass is key and coin scratch proof. Nice. The back probably will not be. So we all still need our phone cases.

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Would you rather have imitation cheese or 100% real cheese? Or beef patties made with animal organs or 100% beef?
Beef offal is still beef. And it can taste very nice if done well. It's all from the same animal.

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Here's Jony Ive's face after he reads all these rumors about what Apple may or may not be doing: :D

2k1qoo.jpg
So the rumours can do what no other person or thing in the world can, make Jon Ive smile? That really is amazing.
 
My iPhone 5 was badly scratched by my pocket camera; was foolish to put them in same pocket. Camera is anodized aluminum; i.e. aluminum oxide on the surface, same material as sapphire crystal. Beware, do not put any anodized aluminum (like another iphone) in same pocket as your iPhone.
 
about $7 for a 1000 views i think

It's nowhere near that high. I was partner for a while (the channel is closed but it was a blog channel) and got something like 15,000-50,000 views per day. At most I think I saw like $2-3 for the given day.

Unless of course you are claiming that "anti apple propaganda" is paid better by google, in which case I have no evidence to refute that statement other than finding it highly suspect.
 
Even the best sapphire Watch crystals will scratch if you try hard enough.

Trying has nothing much to do with it, really. It's using a material that is harder than the material you are scratching which matters.

The point if this test was to rule out pure sapphire. It seemed to be successful with that. There were never claims that the sandpaper were real world conditions or that because sandpaper scratches the screen it is somehow not a good product. Simply put a basic test was conducted that concluded this isn't a pure sapphire display.
 
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