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With regard to the rumoured 960 x 1704 resolution, this could potentially make sense on the 4.7 inch model running in a 3X mode. The user interface would be larger than current devices though, approaching what you get on the full-sized iPad. That might be a little unsettling for users moving from the iPhone 5 to iPhone 6.

For a 5.5 inch iPhone it is difficult to see 960 x 1704 working. The interface would be too small at 2X but too big at 3X.

that's the problem with apple and their iOS. In android, you can change DPI settings for any app and/or the entire UI.

iOS is just like OS X, stuck in the past!
 
Hmm. I was hoping to see a resolution higher than that- I guess time will tell. I thought it'd make more sense to go with a x3 resolution.

There is really no reason for the mind-boggling PPIs on some of the newer phones (450+ or even 500+). All that does is drain the battery faster and you can't really detect a difference. The real story here seems to be that the 5.5" does not seem to have the same resolution as the 4.7". I guess we may yet see a resolution-independent iOS in the future.
 
A bit too low. Was hoping for a 400+ ppi. I can certainly see the difference in pixel density between my current nexus 5 and my gf's iphone 4s.
 
Nooooooooooooooooo

Not at the very end of 2014 (almost 2015)

Can't "only" be 1472x828 on a 4.7" screen.

That's simply Embarrassing from a company that's SUPPOSED to make the BEST mobile phone/s in the world today.

I could only see this being the case if the 4.7" iPhone was their low end new model, and the 5.5" model would have a cutting edge screen as Apple's new flagship mobile phone to be proud of.
 
There is really no reason for the mind-boggling PPIs on some of the newer phones (450+ or even 500+). All that does is drain the battery faster and you can't really detect a difference. The real story here seems to be that the 5.5" does not seem to have the same resolution as the 4.7". I guess we may yet see a resolution-independent iOS in the future.

No you can detect a difference, it's that pesky thing we call scientific fact. Try reading glasses.

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that's the problem with apple and their iOS. In android, you can change DPI settings for any app and/or the entire UI.

iOS is just like OS X, stuck in the past!

iOS being locked is why it's a trillion times better than Andriod.
 
There is really no reason for the mind-boggling PPIs on some of the newer phones (450+ or even 500+). All that does is drain the battery faster and you can't really detect a difference. The real story here seems to be that the 5.5" does not seem to have the same resolution as the 4.7". I guess we may yet see a resolution-independent iOS in the future.



I put my 5S next to a G3 and I absolutely can tell the difference. There is a variation in how well people see.

Of course from the leaks Apple will give us a dinky battery and the phone will be thin but not offer as good of resolution and comparable battery life. I'd rather have a little bit thicker phone and a higher resolution display. There was a time when Apple was out front on their displays. All the leaks point to sub 1080p resolution when the competition is already putting out 2k displays on their phones.

Keep in mind a 6S will likely be the same resolution as the 6 so we'll be stuck way behind for 2 years of what other products offer. A thin phone forcing a lower than 1080p resolution and smallish battery is form over function in a negative way.
 
Mind you- the resolution is still better than the 720p found on the Samsung Galaxy Alpha. :apple:

The iPhone 6 will be Apple's Flaship phone, the best is can make.

The Galaxy Alpha is not a flagship phone, it's specs have been lowered.

Do you really want to boast that Samsung's low spec mobile has slightly lower specs than Apple's top spec mobile?
 
that's the problem with apple and their iOS. In android, you can change DPI settings for any app and/or the entire UI.

iOS is just like OS X, stuck in the past!

Until all user interface artwork moves to vector-based formats, it still makes a lot of sense to scale at round numbers — 1X, 2X, 3X. Anything in between will yield blurry images and difficulty with sub-pixel measurements.

iOS is actually pretty flexible in how it handles different resolutions. If a new resolution shipped, apps could simply stretch up to fill a larger canvas. There is a lot of evidence in the iOS 8 SDK to support this line of thought. You could say there was a little evidence in iOS 7 too.

Furthermore, iOS can easily support 3X or 4X scaling. So the fact that they've only done 1X and 2X devices so far doesn't preclude them shipping 3X or 4X display resolutions.

In my opinion, Apple's move to higher resolution displays in the Mac product line has been a much nicer transition than we've seen in the Windows market. Scaling up a user interface to 1.5X or whatever is just horribly messy.
 
Oh you know Apple, it will say that there is no perceivable improvement. I disagree but some will agree so it'll work out for them.

Truth is people will buy an iPhone for all the other stuff you get with it, very few would refuse to buy an iPhone because the resolution isn't 1080p, so they're safe.

This is smart for app compatibility and also making it easier for the phone's graphics chip to not be burdened with higher resolutions, having to run it faster/hotter and thus killing battery life.

TL;DR -- this is what we all expected, and it's probably for the best

It doesn't matter what idiots that have absolutely 0 knowledge about something say. That's just them spewing their ignorance for the world to see. See: anything Donald Trump has ever said concerning climate change.

Humans can detect a difference, it's scientific fact. Some humans are really stupid though, and they don't understand that their eyesight plays a key role in the equation.
 
If you scaled the iPhone icon size of 120px, from the screen width of 640px to 828px, you'd get an icon res of 155.25px. Doesn't sound too great, but what if we interchanged it with an icon of similar size that's already used in iOS?

The iPad retina's 152px icon size works perfectly here. I mean, most apps already have a 152px icon included, and at that size it would mean the iPhone homescreen would look nearly identical to what it does at the moment, just larger. The spacing would be slightly larger, at 44px wide rather than the scaled equivalent of 41.4px. Pretty much perfect.
 
The current resolution on the iPhone 5 has a width of 320 'points' (not pixels). If scaled linear, this would lead to 320*(4.7/4) = 376 points. That is less than the proposed resolution of 414 points. With @2x, this would actually mean that a 4.7" iPhone has smaller icons and user interface elements than the 5. I say: no way. My guess is that this resolution is solely meant for the 5.5" iPhone to take advantage of the huge screen and that the 4.7" iPhone will feature the same virtual resolution as the 5s/5c/5.
 
4.7" - 1704x960 - "3x"
5.5" - 2272x1280 - "4x"

I hope Apple does it this way. Both resolutions easily scale from the current resolution, offer similar pixel densities, and keep up with current screen technology at least a little bit.

I know many claim that nobody can tell a difference between retina and above retina, but I don't buy it myself. Some surely can't, like some can't tell the difference between SDTV and FullHD TV. I feel for those people. But many others can tell the difference and enjoy the crisper screens.
 
There is really no reason for the mind-boggling PPIs on some of the newer phones (450+ or even 500+). All that does is drain the battery faster and you can't really detect a difference. The real story here seems to be that the 5.5" does not seem to have the same resolution as the 4.7". I guess we may yet see a resolution-independent iOS in the future.

I couldn't notice pixels when I first got a retina iPhone, but now my phone, tablet and computer are all retina, I'm used to it and do see pixellation. It is most noticeable on text or icons.

Note that retina refers to not being able to see pixels with 20/20 vision. 20/20 isn't perfect, that is good eyesight. My corrected eyesight with glasses is better than that.
 
The iPhone 6 will be Apple's Flaship phone, the best is can make.

The Galaxy Alpha is not a flagship phone, it's specs have been lowered.

Do you really want to boast that Samsung's low spec mobile has slightly lower specs than Apple's top spec mobile?

Specs don't matter, real world matters. I'll give you that Apple doesn't currently have a good enough PPI though.

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4.7" - 1704x960 - "3x"
5.5" - 2272x1280 - "4x"

I hope Apple does it this way. Both resolutions easily scale from the current resolution, offer similar pixel densities, and keep up with current screen technology at least a little bit.

I know many claim that nobody can tell a difference between retina and above retina, but I don't buy it myself. Some surely can't, like some can't tell the difference between SDTV and FullHD TV. I feel for those people. But many others can tell the difference and enjoy the crisper screens.
Yep, it's simply scientific fact that humans can tell the difference. Granted if you hold a display far enough, and thing will become retina. Turns out I hold my iPhone closer than the 11" or further that I'd have to hold it in order to not see the pixels.
 
Yes you can see the difference, but only if you hold the phone closer than 11 inches from your face.

You know what 11" is? Who in the hell never holds their phone closer than that? By the way, there are actually numerous other factors but I won't post a link to a video describing them.
 
Specs don't matter, real world matters. I'll give you that Apple doesn't currently have a good enough PPI though.



Come on now, let's be totally honest here, Specs DO MATTER When Apple has the better specs.

All we every hear about when Apple has better spec on something, like the 1st retina display, was people here shouting about specs specs specs.

That's what happens on these forums and we all know it. :)
 
4.7" - 1704x960 - "3x"
5.5" - 2272x1280 - "4x"

I hope Apple does it this way. Both resolutions easily scale from the current resolution, offer similar pixel densities, and keep up with current screen technology at least a little bit.

Your first suggestion (4.7 inch) would yield a resolution of 416.1 ppi, meaning 138.7 ppi in 3X mode. That means the whole user interface gets much larger, approaching the size of the full-size iPad.

Your second suggestion (5.5 inch) yields a resolution of 474.1 ppi, meaning 158 ppi in 3X mode. So the whole user interface gets only fractionally larger.

This combination is not going to happen. It makes zero sense for the larger iPhone to have a more fiddly user interface than the smaller model. In my opinion, the larger model will either have exactly the same-sized UI as the smaller model, or it will have a larger UI in the way we've seen on the iPad line.
 
You know what 11" is? Who in the hell never holds their phone closer than that? By the way, there are actually numerous other factors but I won't post a link to a video describing them.

Yes I know, while i don't usually hold it that close the closest i do use my phone is probably around 7 inches.
 
The current resolution on the iPhone 5 has a width of 320 'points' (not pixels). If scaled linear, this would lead to 320*(4.7/4) = 376 points. That is less than the proposed resolution of 414 points. With @2x, this would actually mean that a 4.7" iPhone has smaller icons and user interface elements than the 5. I say: no way. My guess is that this resolution is solely meant for the 5.5" iPhone to take advantage of the huge screen and that the 4.7" iPhone will feature the same virtual resolution as the 5s/5c/5.

The photo shown in the first post is apparently the 4.7 inch display. Therefore the resolution is likely to be in the ball park of 752 x 1336 as you've suggested (376 points across ways), with the same 326 ppi as the iPhone 5, still running in @2x mode.

The size of the icons is a different matter entirely. Apple could size them however they liked on the larger phones!

The size of most user interface components would almost certainly be the same as current devices if the display had the same 326 ppi resolution of current devices.
 
Come on now, let's be totally honest here, Specs DO MATTER When Apple has the better specs.

All we every hear about when Apple has better spec on something, like the 1st retina display, was people here shouting about specs specs specs.

That's what happens on these forums and we all know it. :)

Maybe to retards on these forums, but I'm not one of those retards.
 
I already can't see the pixels, so I think that maintaining the current pixel density would suit me just fine.
 
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