Pakaku
macrumors 68040
The thing about that image: Your physical new Mac Pro footprint only gets bigger and uglier as you add more things, but the old Mac Pro looks good hoarding all of that stuff whether you actually use them all or not.
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42 Peripheral Devices Connected to One 2013 Mac Pro
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The thing about that image: Your physical new Mac Pro footprint only gets bigger and uglier as you add more things, but the old Mac Pro looks good hoarding all of that stuff whether you actually use them all or not.
Nightarchaon
macrumors 65816
i LOVE this picture, it sums up EVERYTHING that is wrong with both the new direction taken for the MAC PRO (Form over function) and the new direction for apple in general (Lets sell pretty things when they stand alone and not things that are actually usable things in the real world unless you have 700 extra cables, devices and plug sockets handy)
paulsdenton
macrumors 6502
Well, that's not really true. I have a wire for the monitor, a wire for the Pegasus disk array, a power cable, a network cable, a speaker cable and a USB cable for the Wacom tablet. The old MP would have had several of these. Plus I can have many more RAID disks with my one HDD wire. The olden goldie was limited to 4. Plus I have this awesome speed with Handbrake, FCPX, etc. that the users of the old one can only dream about.
osofast240sx
macrumors 68030
It's obvious obvious that you're not a pro and you do not work in a creative pro setting. In the real world in a studio you going to have racks and that's where your cable management and equipment management looks neat and uniform. You guys are just being a bunch bunch of sideliners.
the8thark
macrumors 601
unrealistic, impractical uses of technology today
The same things seem very plausible to the average person to use tomorrow.
Also this highlights flaws and benefits in the current system. Stuff like this give so much useful information.
Oshawapilot
macrumors newbie
Pfft, Commodore was doing this in the 80's..you could daisy chain 1541's, 1571's, 1581's...heck, almost any drive short of the datasette could be daisy chained. 😛
load "$",8,2
If you understand that, and what it would have commanded, you win the "old fart" test. 😉
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If you understand that, and what it would have commanded, you win the "old fart" test. 😉
Parasprite
macrumors 68000
dysamoria
macrumors 68020
No, it's "the answer to the question of life, the universe, everything."
;-)
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The whole point of making such hardware available is to use it. I am glad these folks decided to test the upper limits. I hate when product is released with functionality that isn't actually up to specification. If that many devices functioned correctly, I would think that a reasonable setup would be quite reliable.
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FireWire was used by a LOT of devices and wasn't nearly as expensive!!
Ah yes, the old Mac Pro had a UPS, a condenser microphone, a 24/192 ADC/DAC, and so much more.
dysamoria
macrumors 68020
I highly doubt every company tests this... The way PC hardware was still complaining about shared IRQs, even with PCI steering, back in my evga motherboard bought four years ago... And that's just internal devices, which should function by default... The more "features" you use, the less likely it is to work, and the more likely they never tested what you're trying to do.
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But how would people mindlessly bash the new Mac Pro if they paid attention to reality?
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No, the "irony" is that the image is wrong and people keep referencing it. Actually, that's not irony. It's stupid sarcastic hyperbole, ruling over fact, just so people can bash something they have an emotional problem with (which is change).
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It's not semantics. It's an entirely different way of making connections.
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Yes, it's too expensive. But FireWire WAS successful. It was "killed off" because Apple was looking toward thunderbolt. We just didn't know it yet. Also, the PC industry leaders failed to embrace FireWire because they wanted cheap hardware. So FireWire existed plentifully in external drives, professional audio interfaces, and video input devices, mostly used on Macs and Sony VAIOs. One of the same industry leaders, intel, is backing thunderbolt (and poorly, so far).
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All that stuff never fit inside a Mac Pro in the first place. You guys keep pushing this nonsense "info" graphic because you want to ruin the new Mac Pro as revenge for not getting another monstrous waste of material like the old one?
BJMRamage
macrumors 68030
I don't feel like referencing the photo that mocked the 2012 and 2013 MacPros. I laughed when seeing this. The one thing I do know is when moving offices the previous MacPro Towers were a behemoth and the metal edges dug into my hands.
I am thinking the new Mac Pros are much lighter and easier to carry.
I know my iMac looks a bit of a mess with cables all over the place...and even my work MBP has cables all over, but I am more focused on whats ON the screen.
I am thinking the new Mac Pros are much lighter and easier to carry.
I know my iMac looks a bit of a mess with cables all over the place...and even my work MBP has cables all over, but I am more focused on whats ON the screen.
Nunyabinez
macrumors 68000
oneMadRssn
macrumors 603
chirpie
macrumors 6502a
I'm starting to loathe this pic.
The silly thing is, many of these critics are the same people who are more than happy to have 2 graphic cards in their towers with cables coming out of the back to a second PSU somewhere.
Seriously, we had over a dozen Mac Pro towers in our office once and it fell into two camps:
1 - Overkill for certain users and a nice clean tower (They now have Mac Minis and their desks are less cluttered than ever.)
2 - Power users who have very specific needs. Cords everywhere anyway! (They now have iMacs except for a couple who have towers and one station that has the new mac pro.)
I love a clean desk as much as anyone, but this example paints a larger chasm than you'll hardly ever see in reality.
It's a good idea to push hardware to the limit to know where the sweet spot is.
iMacFarlane
macrumors 65816
WaxedJacket
macrumors 6502a
Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
Couldn't agree with you more. I do live me some new Mac Pro but I couldn't imagine going from the old case to the new one, and have to drop $3000 or more to get all of my PCIe cards and other tech into TBolt cases.
BenTrovato
macrumors 68040
If you're going to use that many devices just get a different system. I like the nMP. It's heading in a cool direction but it's a bit ahead of its time. On the other hand, it was just an experiment. There are better ways to work in an environment with that many peripherals in use.