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I have an NVDIA 5200 I bought for $10 that absolutely refuses to flash. I flash it, it says it's flashed, it doesn't work. I have no idea what I am doing wrong, if anything.

Same here with a PC SATA card. It has the 3512A Chipset and the Mac flasher claims it flashed but it refuses to work.
 
Ok now can someone answer the question about the IDE/SATA card? I need a PCI card to access the full capacity of the 160gb drive (32gb wasted). I prefer a IDE and SATA card so I can put new SATA drives in it. Can someone recommend me something?

I am interested in this one so would this card work in the 466MHz G4 and is the quality good enough?


Also what is PCI-X and does the 466Mhz DA have PCI-X and if so, should I look for PCI-X cards?

That card will not work. All PCI SATA/IDE cards (that i have seen) are all VIA chipsets. The ONLY chipset that will work on a Mac is a Silicon Image 3112 chip. I have never had luck with the 3512 chips.
 
That card will not work. All PCI SATA/IDE cards (that i have seen) are all VIA chipsets. The ONLY chipset that will work on a Mac is a Silicon Image 3112 chip. I have never had luck with the 3512 chips.

ONLY? wow these macs are picky pick picky... :p

Will this work? Or this? Or what about this?

Where else can I find cards with a silicicon image chipsset?
 
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ONLY? wow these macs are picky pick picky... :p

Will this work? Or this? Or what about this?

Where else can I find cards with a silicicon image chipsset?
It's really not neccessary to have a PCI IDE or SATA card unless you want one.

The Intech HiCap driver will give you the full capacity of an IDE drive on Macs that don't natively have it.
 
It's really not neccessary to have a PCI IDE or SATA card unless you want one.

The Intech HiCap driver will give you the full capacity of an IDE drive on Macs that don't natively have it.

For less than the price of that crap I can get a PCI card which is not only safer and always works, but allows me to add more drives and access faster speeds! >.<
 
For less than the price of that crap I can get a PCI card which is not only safer and always works, but allows me to add more drives and access faster speeds! >.<
And yet you have no PCI card for that right now.

I'm just giving options. I happen to have bought this and it's hardly crap. It's worked very well on each Mac I've used it on.
 
And yet you have no PCI card for that right now.

I'm just giving options. I happen to have bought this and it's hardly crap. It's worked very well on each Mac I've used it on.

The problem with software is that it is software and it is only in the OS, so if you load a different OS or boot from CD the drivers don't exist there and you risk corruption of the disk. And it is awfully expensive; for less that that you can get a PCI card which guarantees proper operation because it is hardware-based and compatible with everything, plus it allows you to add even more hard drives and allows faster speeds. That's why that software is a stupid option IMO.
 
The problem with software is that it is software and it is only in the OS, so if you load a different OS or boot from CD the drivers don't exist there and you risk corruption of the disk. And it is awfully expensive; for less that that you can get a PCI card which guarantees proper operation because it is hardware-based and compatible with everything, plus it allows you to add even more hard drives and allows faster speeds. That's why that software is a stupid option IMO.
It may be a stupid option in your case, but not in mine.

I use Leopard and Leopard only unless I have a Mac that can't run it. The driver works from OS9 to 10.5.

If you want a PCI card, fine, that's your option. But just because this doesn't work for you doesn't mean it does not work for others.

In any case, sorry I mentioned it.
 
It may be a stupid option in your case, but not in mine.

I use Leopard and Leopard only unless I have a Mac that can't run it. The driver works from OS9 to 10.5.

If you want a PCI card, fine, that's your option. But just because this doesn't work for you doesn't mean it does not work for others.

In any case, sorry I mentioned it.

It would work for me but I am just saying how it is not an economical and logical idea. Even for you an IDE card would be better unless you used up all your PCI slots... then that is the only reason to use the software but there are ways around that (use cards with multiple things built in, like a USB/FireWire/IDE card in one). Now if that software was only $5 or something like that then that would be a different story...
 
It would work for me but I am just saying how it is not an economical and logical idea. Even for you an IDE card would be better unless you used up all your PCI slots... then that is the only reason to use the software but there are ways around that (use cards with multiple things built in, like a USB/FireWire/IDE card in one). Now if that software was only $5 or something like that then that would be a different story...

Better deal?
 
ONLY? wow these macs are picky pick picky... :p

Will this work? Or this? Or what about this?

Where else can I find cards with a silicicon image chipsset?

That 1st card MIGHT work as it does have a chipset flashable using the 3112 flash Utility. However it is a IDE controller and the 3112 flasher is for SATA so it may not work. It all depends if you want a card just for more expandability or if you want a card to boot off of.

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This card WILL work. You need a PC to flash it and if you have IDE HDDs you can get a IDE to SATA adaptor and use this card.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sat...7&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=131431109900&rt=nc
 
Whoops, forgot the link:http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Intech%20Software/STUPROSN/

Speedtools utilities 3 with the HiCap driver.

Oh I see

That thing is more expensive than eyoungren's one!!

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That 1st card MIGHT work as it does have a chipset flashable using the 3112 flash Utility. However it is a IDE controller and the 3112 flasher is for SATA so it may not work. It all depends if you want a card just for more expandability or if you want a card to boot off of.

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This card WILL work. You need a PC to flash it and if you have IDE HDDs you can get a IDE to SATA adaptor and use this card.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sat...7&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=131431109900&rt=nc

Well I need a card to boot from and I don't have any windows PC to flash it. I'd really prefer an IDE card, not a SATA card and adapter.
There HAS to be something out there! Apple talks about PCI cards themselves. I know Sonnet makes/made cards for Mac but I can't find any being sold.
 
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Oh I see

That thing is more expensive than eyoungren's one!!

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Well I need a card to boot from and I don't have any windows PC to flash it. I'd really prefer an IDE card, not a SATA card and adapter.
There HAS to be something out there! Apple talks about PCI cards themselves. I know Sonnet makes/made cards for Mac but I can't find any being sold.

The ONLY IDE Mac card i know of is rare, EXPENSIVE and wont fix your problem. It has a 137GB Drive Limit. Macs used IDE controllers with PROMISE chipsets. The only evident IDE i can find is the Sonnet Tempo HD which is PCI has ATA133 allows mounting a 2.5inch IDE Drive right to the card as well as add 2 3.5 IDE HDDs. However it is discontinued and is NOT bootable

EDIT: THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IT IS BOOTABLE BUT IT'S ONLY ATA66. NOT SURE IF IT HAS THE 137GB LIMIT http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mac-Apple-S...154?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item339ddb976a
 
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But 50 bucks... :( getting around this RAM limit is more difficult than I thought...
It may be better to just leave it at is.. :confused:
 
Yes. I used to have one in a G4 Digital Audio.

sweet! Ill have to pick one of those up for my MDD so i can run ALL the HDDs on the 133 speed!

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But 50 bucks... :( getting around this RAM limit is more difficult than I thought...
It may be better to just leave it at is.. :confused:

I would. Use a smaller HDD as the boot disk(s) and just buy a SATA controller (there is one on Newegg) It is not bootable but you could add up to 4 SATA HDDs to the system (there is a driver for OS X)
 
sweet! Ill have to pick one of those up for my MDD so i can run ALL the HDDs on the 133 speed!

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I would. Use a smaller HDD as the boot disk(s) and just buy a SATA controller (there is one on Newegg) It is not bootable but you could add up to 4 SATA HDDs to the system (there is a driver for OS X)

If I use a smaller HDD then it will be much slower. Even if I don't have the full capacity of the 160GB I still get faster speeds.

How do I know which SATA cards work and don't work?
 
If I use a smaller HDD then it will be much slower. Even if I don't have the full capacity of the 160GB I still get faster speeds.

How do I know which SATA cards work and don't work?

here is a link to one that will work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...re=SATA_Controller_Mac-_-16-124-028-_-Product

It will work WITH a driver but WILL NOT BOOT! If you want it to boot you need to either buy and flash a Silicon Image 3112 OR Buy a Sonnet Tempo SATA for around 80 bucks but its a investment well spent it will most likely outlive any Mac you put it into and any HDD you hook to it.
 
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