EDIT (everything above the line and in bold is the "edit"): I wanted to add a few things in reference to peoples comments. I am aware that there are people using PDA/Smartphones with the lesser MEdiaNet packages. If you recently started doing this, you are breaking At&t's rules. I understand that data is data, but they don't allow for MEdiaNet plans on smartphones and PDAs. It has been this way since the inception of 3G on their network, to the best of my understanding. If you walk into an At&t store and buy any PDA from the EDGE only Palm Centro to the 3G Tilt, they will make you get the $30 data plan. If you request the MEdiaNet plan, they won't let you do it.
If you are an older, existing customer that has had a data plan that includes texts from "once upon a time," you are special. If you were to sign a new contract, that would go away. You are just lucky enough to have held on to something they no longer offer the current purchasers of PDAs and smartphones. It may have been offered once, but it isn't any longer, and it has nothing to do with the present situation.
I was trying to keep this all simple, hence my simplified explanations, because there is enough confusion surrounding this as is. I guess I couldn't keep it that way...
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If this only gets through to a handful of the hundreds of complainers, I will be happy... Someone needs to try, and I haven't seen this thread done yet, so here goes nothing.... (copy of something I said in the middle of another topic)
What nobody seems to understand is that the $30 is not specifically tied to the 3G speeds.
For the love of God, why can't you understand that all At&t BlackBerry and PDA data plans start at $30 a month with NO text messages included?? The original iPhone received special data pricing because it was so expensive to buy and because there was a revenue share between Apple and At&t.
The revenue share is gone.
The price is now subsidized.
This means that the special treatment the previous iPhone got is gone. It is now being priced the EXACT SAME WAY as ALL their other smartphones and PDAs!!!!!!
If you have a BlackBerry Curve, there is no 3G for you because it is an EDGE only device. Guess what, $30/mo data plan, no texts included.
If you have the 3G capable At&t Tilt, there is 3G for if you live in a 3G area. Guess what, $30/mo data plan, no texts included.
If you have that same 3G capable Tilt and live in an EDGE only area, you can only use it over EDGE. Guess what, $30/mo data plan, no texts included. (regardless of being in a 3G area, or an EDGE area, the Tilt data plan is $30/mo. Same plan, doesn't matter where you live or what coverage you can get. I know I am just repeating what I said, but I just want to be sure it is absolutely understood
, so I am adding this blurb)
THE PRICE IS NOT SOLELY TO THE 3G!!! There are more factors to it, and your coverage area doesn't matter, never has.
This has become one of the most pathetic strings of complaints I have ever seen. Try to understand the following:
-iPhone releases in June 2007 for $599 and $499.
-Apple and At&t have a revenue sharing agreement, so Apple has more control over the plan pricing.
-Due to cost and said agreement, the phone is given a special break and is not put on a standard, $30/mo PDA data plan. It is instead given the same plan type as a normal flip phone. This plan is called the MEdiaMax plan, even though it is not branded as such for the iPhone. Look it up on At&t's website if you doubt this.
Fast forward a year
-iPhone 3G comes out on July 11th.
-iPhone receives subsidized pricing this time around.
-Revenue sharing agreement is gone. Due to this fact, and the subsidized pricing, At&t takes the iPhone out of the special data pricing bracket it formally was in and places it into the PDA bracket where it always should have been. Apple has no say over this because the revenue sharing is gone.
Are you getting this now? Can you see it?
It is not the work of the devil. It is not Jobs trying to eat your soul. It is not At&t trying to steal your first born. It is simply At&t pricing the iPhone data in accordance with all their other PDA/smartphones.
The last point is that the negative press may actually cause a change before July 11th.
Just calm down and see what happens. If nothing changes, and you don't want to pay it, don't buy the damned phone, but please stop making asinine complaints about it.
If you are an older, existing customer that has had a data plan that includes texts from "once upon a time," you are special. If you were to sign a new contract, that would go away. You are just lucky enough to have held on to something they no longer offer the current purchasers of PDAs and smartphones. It may have been offered once, but it isn't any longer, and it has nothing to do with the present situation.
I was trying to keep this all simple, hence my simplified explanations, because there is enough confusion surrounding this as is. I guess I couldn't keep it that way...
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If this only gets through to a handful of the hundreds of complainers, I will be happy... Someone needs to try, and I haven't seen this thread done yet, so here goes nothing.... (copy of something I said in the middle of another topic)
What nobody seems to understand is that the $30 is not specifically tied to the 3G speeds.
For the love of God, why can't you understand that all At&t BlackBerry and PDA data plans start at $30 a month with NO text messages included?? The original iPhone received special data pricing because it was so expensive to buy and because there was a revenue share between Apple and At&t.
The revenue share is gone.
The price is now subsidized.
This means that the special treatment the previous iPhone got is gone. It is now being priced the EXACT SAME WAY as ALL their other smartphones and PDAs!!!!!!
If you have a BlackBerry Curve, there is no 3G for you because it is an EDGE only device. Guess what, $30/mo data plan, no texts included.
If you have the 3G capable At&t Tilt, there is 3G for if you live in a 3G area. Guess what, $30/mo data plan, no texts included.
If you have that same 3G capable Tilt and live in an EDGE only area, you can only use it over EDGE. Guess what, $30/mo data plan, no texts included. (regardless of being in a 3G area, or an EDGE area, the Tilt data plan is $30/mo. Same plan, doesn't matter where you live or what coverage you can get. I know I am just repeating what I said, but I just want to be sure it is absolutely understood
, so I am adding this blurb)THE PRICE IS NOT SOLELY TO THE 3G!!! There are more factors to it, and your coverage area doesn't matter, never has.
This has become one of the most pathetic strings of complaints I have ever seen. Try to understand the following:
-iPhone releases in June 2007 for $599 and $499.
-Apple and At&t have a revenue sharing agreement, so Apple has more control over the plan pricing.
-Due to cost and said agreement, the phone is given a special break and is not put on a standard, $30/mo PDA data plan. It is instead given the same plan type as a normal flip phone. This plan is called the MEdiaMax plan, even though it is not branded as such for the iPhone. Look it up on At&t's website if you doubt this.
Fast forward a year
-iPhone 3G comes out on July 11th.
-iPhone receives subsidized pricing this time around.
-Revenue sharing agreement is gone. Due to this fact, and the subsidized pricing, At&t takes the iPhone out of the special data pricing bracket it formally was in and places it into the PDA bracket where it always should have been. Apple has no say over this because the revenue sharing is gone.
Are you getting this now? Can you see it?
It is not the work of the devil. It is not Jobs trying to eat your soul. It is not At&t trying to steal your first born. It is simply At&t pricing the iPhone data in accordance with all their other PDA/smartphones.
The last point is that the negative press may actually cause a change before July 11th.
Just calm down and see what happens. If nothing changes, and you don't want to pay it, don't buy the damned phone, but please stop making asinine complaints about it.
