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So would this mean that like all other smartphones on AT&T the data plan is optional? Will you be able to get an iPhone with no data plan on it? Can you just you the wifi option?

Sorry if changed the subject but wanting to know the answer.

Thats a good question, I have a blackberry, which I hate, and I did not have to get the data plan. If you did that with the iPhone it would be a touch with phone capabilities. But I can put money that you have to get the plan.
 
I think the keynote also annoyed some of us. Yeah, it's for people at the WWDC (developers!). It just felt like there was so little information that I gave a poot about. When Gen. Nerd (whoever the younger guy that hosted all the apps part) went on about APIs, I fast-forwarded through about an hour of software developers speaking another language. I was like "show me a frickin' Mac or something!"

You've answered your own point: it was WWDC, not MacWorld. WWDC = for the devs, MacWorld = for the consumers (i.e. you).

I don't want the data plan at all. why force it on me? I have wifi everywhere. I don't need visual voicemail. Even if the $30 price tag is industry standard, it really is still too expensive. My 6MBPS connection with AT&T costs $30 bucks for God's sake! Now I have to pay another $30 bucks. That's why I don't want to pay for it, especially when I'll probably only use it for 15 minutes per month.

I just want everything else the iPhone offers (GPS, apps, touchscreen, the list goes on...)

OK, you wouldn't get GPS (unless they allow bluetooth tethering to an external GPS) but why not buy a first-gen iPhone on Ebay, unlock it and put in whatever non-data phone plan sim you like?
 
I think the real bottom line here for a lot people here, myself included, is that an iPhone will cost you $70 per month minimum (probably more). If you need more minutes or texts, it gets close to $1000 per year! Ouch. It's not the $10 increase, its the other 60 bucks that makes it hard to swallow.

If you could use the phone as a 3g modem for my MacBook, ok. Maybe I would even consider dropping my cable internet connection. But for now, I'll stick to my $35/month Verizon plan with better coverage.
 
Yea all that information is what all us apple-heads were slowly realizing over monday. It was just a little disturbing to initially see that $240 jump. Plus, it was believed that the texts were taken away as well, a fact which is now being disputed...

So with all that being said, I have come to understand the increase. I really only have one last question/argument. At&t is the exclusive carrier for the iphone so doesn't that count for anything? Don't iphone users (and apple indirectly) get special treatment so that we buy more of them??

I mean now that apple no longer gets partial revenue what is the point of having an exclusive carrier? It seems to jip apple if there is no benefit to only using at&t. And you can't say subsidy because carriers subsidy phones all the time that aren't exclusive...

If apple sold unlocked iphones that would open up business a whole lot more! even if it were $199 with at&t (subsidized) or $399 unlocked. What's the problem with this idea?
 
OK, you wouldn't get GPS (unless they allow bluetooth tethering to an external GPS) but why not buy a first-gen iPhone on Ebay, unlock it and put in whatever non-data phone plan sim you like?

If I unlock an iPhone I lose the warrenty, I have a Blackberry for work and currently use a Curve for Personal with no Data service. I want the iPhone 3g for personal with no Data. I could care less about the GPS personally, I have it on my work Blackberry. Visual Voicemail is not a big deal to me either.

If AT&T is going to make the iPhone data the same as there smartphone data then they better have the option to take the data or not take it.
 
This phone went from being a consumer phone to a corporate phone. :(

I really don't think Apple is going to make inroads on the Blackberry/corporate market.

It's still more an entertainment device than a businesslike PDA. A very nice one, but still ...
 
sure the op makes sense.

BUT...

I don't want the data plan at all. why force it on me? I have wifi everywhere. I don't need visual voicemail. Even if the $30 price tag is industry standard, it really is still too expensive. My 6MBPS connection with AT&T costs $30 bucks for God's sake! Now I have to pay another $30 bucks. That's why I don't want to pay for it, especially when I'll probably only use it for 15 minutes per month.

I just want everything else the iPhone offers (GPS, apps, touchscreen, the list goes on...)

I wonder what would have happened if T-mobile was the carrier.


thats the same boat I'm in. I currently have the 1st gen Iphone but don't have a data plan. I have wi fi on campus, at home and pretty much everywhere i go to eat and I don't need internet access every minute of my life... I just want the phone service with a text plan and wi fi. thats the only thing thats bugging me is, can i get rid of the data plan like in the first gen iphone...
 
Thanks for posting this. Hopefully it shuts up some of the people who are mad and have no idea what the $30 actually goes towards.
 
thanks for the perspective - I had been kind of hesitant since the price increase of the unlimited data but seeing it explained like that makes a lot of sense
 
Thank you for this post. It's well written and full of those things called "facts" and "logic" that most of the people screaming about "price gouging" and "insane new prices" seem to be avoiding so completely that it comes across as intentional avoidance so they can bitch about something.

I actually considered writing up something similar, but I'm glad to see it. If for no other reason than yours is a lot nicer than mine probably would have ended up. :D
 
CrazEtooN, Thanks for starting this thread. I'm kinda sick of trying to explain why at&t decided to up the plans. I will link anyone who has a question on the subject. As an at&t Retail Sales Consultant, I can say that you hit it right on the head of the nail.
 
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