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TWinbrook46636 said:
I believe the socket is the same for all the current iPods. There was the rumor of an iPod "SuperDock" going around for a while that would feature A/V outputs, hard drive and remote control. Maybe someone caught a glimpse of this new computer with built-in iPod dock and assumed that was what it was.

Ok but I also worry about whether an iPod dedicated hole in your desktop computer's case is aesthetically pleasing.
 
Hector said:
now will this come in ipod mini colors or in imac white?

as for the gpu i recon they will go for a 5200, i wish they would dump that gpu and either get x300's or 9600's

I believe it will be imac white just like all the other consumer computers. Now if I can justify getting another mac. :p

P.S. Who hasn't wanted a mac in the bathroom. :cool:
 
artifex said:
You pegged us exactly, I think. Another thing about building PCs ourselves is that many of us see dropping $3000 at once for a setup as crazy, something we can't do all at once, but we'll happily put something together piecemeal, with parts we scrounge from our older gear. The overall cost at some point will be more, but we'll think we can roll the parts forward to the next box (not my mono NeXT box, unfortunately, it's too proprietary).

I would like it if Apple sold this motherboard (if it had slots) for $399 (with OSX) and I could put in it an ATX box and build a machine around it. That would be fun for me. I don't know why, but I don't know why I do a lot of things.
 
First:
If they do release this as a desktop (and not a media center Mac) then they had better promote the hell out of it on television....unlike the iMac G5's. That's probably the big thing for dull.....they have a 60 second spot on almost every cable/local channel that says $499 10X during the commercial. Apple has a rep for being high priced......so most people who are looking for a non-expensive computer are not going to go to Apples website without knowing of this headless iMac first.
Second:
Why would they have to release a whole new OS just to support a media center Mac? This could be driven by a software app that you can set to start up (in preferences) so that if you'd like it to be used for media center activities...it automatically runs that app. If you use it as a desktop then you can leave that setting alone and it will boot into OSX like normal.
 
MacNeXT said:
Ok but I also worry about whether an iPod dedicated hole in your desktop computer's case is aesthetically pleasing.

I agree because not everyone has an iPod or iPod mini (The mini wouldn't look right in the hole), and when their wasn't an iPod in the hole you would have a hole in your computer.
 
krykert said:
Oh no, here come the proles. The tasteless rabble. The masses who see nothing past the price tag. Of course you can’t blame them if their trust funds aren’t large enough to provide them with life’s very finest—they wouldn’t appreciate it anyways—but surely Apple should know better than to serve the poor peasants la crème de la vie on the discount rack at Sears.

This gets my vote for post of the year!! Cracked me up, classic! :D :D

Oh and for those of you who have never visited Little Britain, it's called sarcasm. Learn it or we'll have to revoke your Mac membership and issue with Dells like the rest of the proleteriats! :p
 
your all forgetting a MAJOR thing.

A $499 headless mac is great... BUT

the cheapest display Apple sells is $1000!!!!! Even low-end PC's include CRT monitors! This won't sell unless it includes a monitor! FOr god sakes Apple, buy some cheap ass monitors and bundle them with the mac.
 
Jovian9 said:
Second:
Why would they have to release a whole new OS just to support a media center Mac? This could be driven by a software app that you can set to start up (in preferences) so that if you'd like it to be used for media center activities...it automatically runs that app. If you use it as a desktop then you can leave that setting alone and it will boot into OSX like normal.

I agree, it wouldn't need a separate OS... although I believe a set-top would have a slightly different version of OS X. Otherwise, people would just by the applications for their regular Macs and Apple seems to be more into selling hardware than software.

The biggest difference between this headless Mac and a set-top box would be in the hardware needed to connect to cable/ant/satellite and the TV. If this headless Mac has that hardware, then I'm much more impressed.
 
sPAULj said:
Isn't it kind of obvious that they moved their display size to 20-inches 23-inches and 30-inches in order to have a bottem set of 12-inch 15-inch and 17-inch displays?
I seriously doubt it. The intention for displays on this new Mac Mini is clear... they want PC users to buy it and use their existing PC screens. They don't even have to use the Mac mouse. They can use their PC mouse if they choose.
 
MacFan782040 said:
your all forgetting a MAJOR thing.

A $499 headless mac is great... BUT

the cheapest display Apple sells is $1000!!!!! Even low-end PC's include CRT monitors! This won't sell unless it includes a monitor! FOr god sakes Apple, buy some cheap ass monitors and bundle them with the mac.

While I'm with you as far as wanting Apple to sell an affordable monitor, you lost me when you said this wouldn't sell without a monitor. If you're buying a Mac, you don't mind a G4 AND you want a monitor, buy a damn eMac. This Mac, if it is a real product, is aimed at PC switchers who already have a monitor, aren't willing to fork out $$ for a PowerMac, and don't want to be forced into buying a Mac AIO (as well as for folks who want a cheap OS X home server).
 
MacFan782040 said:
your all forgetting a MAJOR thing.

A $499 headless mac is great... BUT

the cheapest display Apple sells is $1000!!!!! Even low-end PC's include CRT monitors! This won't sell unless it includes a monitor! FOr god sakes Apple, buy some cheap ass monitors and bundle them with the mac.

I agree... unless this is a set-top box. In that case, I assume the TV would be the monitor and something like VNC could be used to connect from another computer.
 
MacFan782040 said:
your all forgetting a MAJOR thing.

A $499 headless mac is great... BUT

the cheapest display Apple sells is $1000!!!!! Even low-end PC's include CRT monitors! This won't sell unless it includes a monitor! FOr god sakes Apple, buy some cheap ass monitors and bundle them with the mac.
They probably will for those new users. But most people who they envision buying this are probably already using a PC and already have a CRT or cheap LCD they can just plug into it.
 
MacFan782040 said:
your all forgetting a MAJOR thing.

A $499 headless mac is great... BUT

the cheapest display Apple sells is $1000!!!!! Even low-end PC's include CRT monitors! This won't sell unless it includes a monitor! FOr god sakes Apple, buy some cheap ass monitors and bundle them with the mac.

At that price you still have the public looking at price. I just saw an ad from Dell on TV. After a mail in rebate they offer a tower, CRT monitor, free printer, and upgrade CD burner for $499. I also miss the days of bundled systems.

sjpetry P.S. Who hasn't wanted a mac in the bathroom.

You mean that you don't want at least one room with a Mac break! Just think of all the problems with a Mac in the bathroom. :D
 
ccrandall77 said:
Why introduce an obsolete system that really isn't much cheaper than the eMac (which should be getting a boost with a G5-1.6)? So you drop $500 on the iMac and then another $300 for a decent LCD... $800 for a system with lesser specs than a G5 eMac. I only really see this appealing to people who already have a monitor, want to buy a cheap monitor separate from the system, or just want a cheap server w/o a monitor.
You're mising the market. Someone mentioned above that this would be a great upgrade box for people still running Win 9x. I agree. Email/Net surfing boxes don't need G5's.

The first people it'll appeal to, of course, are the hip ipod owners. Who wouldn't spend an equal amount of money to get an entire computer from the same people you just bought your incredibly well-designed mp3 player from for the same price range?

After that, it will build out. Ipods have been around for how many years? Three? I give it only two years until this $500 mac is officially a sensation. A slow build up, with more and more people realizing what they've been missing on their windows machines. This will be great for Apple - it will prove that macs are just fine for the masses, not only for the niche players.
 
iJon said:
Last time I checked I didn't remember 60,000+ people dying in Flordia.

jon

yeah, that's true,

i'm surprised this wont delay some production of apples products. aren't all of the products made in south east asia?
 
ccrandall77 said:
Why introduce an obsolete system that really isn't much cheaper than the eMac (which should be getting a boost with a G5-1.6)? So you drop $500 on the iMac and then another $300 for a decent LCD... $800 for a system with lesser specs than a G5 eMac. I only really see this appealing to people who already have a monitor, want to buy a cheap monitor separate from the system, or just want a cheap server w/o a monitor.
Uhhhhhh. Exactly. Something wrong with that?
 
Jovian9 said:
Why would they have to release a whole new OS just to support a media center Mac? This could be driven by a software app that you can set to start up (in preferences) so that if you'd like it to be used for media center activities...it automatically runs that app. If you use it as a desktop then you can leave that setting alone and it will boot into OSX like normal.
I have a Gateway Destination system from 1999 that did all this on top of Win 98. I think it has an ATI All-In-One in it and was just meant to be used with their 42" TV/CRT and a 5.1 surround sound system, and you would subscribe to TV listings which it would download by dialup. It came with a wireless keyword and a remote with a trackball. An early form of TiVo that had some limited video storage capability and a DVD.
Now I have a Replay (TiVo competitor; I bought it because TiVo didn't have a VGA output) that is just made from PC components that they sell at a loss for $200 and (like TiVo) they make all their money on the monthly subscription. That is what Apple could do to make this headless baby turn a profit.
 
Interesting

My dad just told me he wants a new computer but he didn't want to spend too much for a mac so this would be GREAT. I can buy my dual processor g5 and his imac mini for a good price- btw he already has a 19inch crt so he doesn't need to get a monitor- Most pc users already have an lcd or a monitor so that might be one of Apple's marketing schemes here- They might even go as far as saying, "Don't buy a whole new system, keep your monitor but get a computer (imac mini) that actually works"
 
Rootman said:
I have a Gateway Destination system from 1999 that did all this on top of Win 98. I think it has an ATI All-In-One in it and was just meant to be used with their 42" TV/CRT and a 5.1 surround sound system, and you would subscribe to TV listings which it would download by dialup. It came with a wireless keyword and a remote with a trackball. An early form of TiVo that had some limited video storage capability and a DVD.
Now I have a Replay (TiVo competitor; I bought it because TiVo didn't have a VGA output) that is just made from PC components that they sell at a loss for $200 and (like TiVo) they make all their money on the monthly subscription. That is what Apple could do to make this headless baby turn a profit.
I'm sure it's probably profitable already considering most of the parts are probably iBook leftovers
 
TheWereSloth said:
I'm surprised more people haven't been arguing about what it will be named. My vote is for "miniMac"

I think that any name like that will make the machine seem like a toy, and thats not going to go over well. (although it would create parity with the iPod line, having a computer named mini as well, which is kinda cool).

It needs to be cheap, yes. But it also needs to instill confidence that it will be able to handle all of the home tasks put to it. iMovie video editing, DVD burning (yes, this thing is going to need to have a superdrive as an option), word processing, web surfing, etc.

MyMac? (tacky, I know... this is why I am not in marketing)
 
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