$499 Headless iMac?

[macmax77]

well , i think i have found a way to grow share market.

I will have 2 to 3 children.

On their first year i will throw in a party

Everything will be decorated with Apple related thingys.

2nd year:
Same as first

3rd year:
We will have 2 piñatas
A) A windows Piñata that as soon as it breaks spiders will come down in the children's head, hehehhe, they will relate The winblows logo with "fear" and ugly insects.

B) An Apple related Piñata: the kids will receive candies from this one and toys. they will therefore relate Macs with nice things.



4-7 years:

A)Lots of games for he Kids in the parties , always playing together in a lan enviroment and with lots of soft drinks , candies and chocolates, ice cream, etc.

B)One hour of video will be in the itinerary to teach them the horrors behind the windows world.

C)7 minutes of fear by a good Physcologist friend's with the family that also hates windows.

7 years and on:

Teach them how to develope viruses for the windows world, how to explode the windows fugly boxes, making iMovies of them destroying the Winbow boxes and how fun it can be to do so.

Best movie gets a year on a server on the net.


Christmas will be a good time to learn how to put some rockets inside your neighbor's evil winblows machine.

Don't worry , if the neighbor sees that thing exploding he won't really know if the machine is just working harder o really exploding.
At least i couldn't tell when i was in the dark side.

feel free to let me know any more ideas as i want to grow my children to be fine Gentlemen and/or ladies.

Thanks

 

[applekid]

You know, we really can't call for a "headless" iMac anymore. Think about it. The current line of iMac G5s have a head and neck/feet, that's all. So, a headless iMac in current terms would mean, you're asking for the neck/feet, a.k.a the aluminum stand!

But seriously, no more headless iMac talk anymore, people. This computer better have its own family or become part of the eMac line (this machine can fit in an education line or economic line, either way you want to look at it). MacExpress and MacMini are two nice names in my opinion. It just better be relatively small.

ThinkSecret will hopefully have more soon... Maybe this is Sugar??

 

[beatle888]

Oh my gosh! This sounds amazing!

I'm a PC/Windows XP user. I really like Macs, but can't get them because of the outrages prices. This would be perfect! If this rumor is correct, I could get a Mac!

I think they should make smaller, cheaper displays as well. A 2 foot, 1,000 dollar display is a little extreme, don't you think?

outrageous prices? i think your exaggerating.

 

[kcmac]

Remember the G4 Cube introduced in about 2000? Well I happen to own a G4 Cube and love it! The problem with it was that it was too expensive for the average user and not expandable enough for the high end user. Thus the G4 Cube's days were ended.

I think this headless Imac is exactly the same thing as the Cube... I just hope apple plays its cards right and makes it a decent price.

P.S. Put the power supply in the same box as the computer! The Cube has an external power supply and thats probably the number one thing that I dislike about it.

Correct me if my memory is poor but the Cube cost about 3x what this is being rumored to cost.

Also, the power "brick" is much smaller these days is it not? You would think they would use the same one we see on the PB's, iBooks and iPods. Hardly a bother.

It's not the same thing at all. The cube was offered up and nobody knew who it is was targeted for. It was expensive. It took up much more room than it appeared at first glance.

This lowend mac has a very clear market and would be very affordable for the average user if the rumored price is accurate. People have been begging for it since before the dome iMac appeared.

 

[yosoyjay]

Emachines & Dells are expandable.

I think my head nearly exploded when I read the posts about cheap pcs not being expandable.

Just to get the facts I found the details about the cheapest Dell (Dimension 3000) and Emachines (T2862).

Now the Dell the dell with a 2.4GHz Celeron, a printer, XP home, 256MB, 40Gig, cd-rw, cd, no floppy, firewire, integrated sound, integrated video, nic, fax/modem, comes out to $503. True that there is no AGP so your video is hosed, but there are free pci slots, you can add a floppy if you want, and the optical drives are standard 5.25" drives, and ram can be expanded to 2Gig.

The Emachine with a 2.66GHz Celeron, XP home, 256MB, 60Gig, dvd-cdrw, nic, fax/modem, 8 in 1 card reader is $400. This has an expandable AGP slot, 2 free pci slots, 1 free 5.25" bays, and 2 free 4.5" bays.

I really dislike when people just make crap up to justify their argument.

 

[kirk26]

Ooo, that'd be awesome, and perfect for marketing. Do Apple do!
-Chase

Sorry, Apple doesn't operate like that.

 

[macmax77]

I think my head nearly exploded when I read the posts about cheap pcs not being expandable.

Just to get the facts I found the details about the cheapest Dell (Dimension 3000) and Emachines (T2862).

Now the Dell the dell with a 2.4GHz Celeron, a printer, XP home, 256MB, 40Gig, cd-rw, cd, no floppy, firewire, integrated sound, integrated video, nic, fax/modem, comes out to $503. True that there is no AGP so your video is hosed, but there are free pci slots, you can add a floppy if you want, and the optical drives are standard 5.25" drives, and ram can be expanded to 2Gig.

The Emachine with a 2.66GHz Celeron, XP home, 256MB, 60Gig, dvd-cdrw, nic, fax/modem, 8 in 1 card reader is $400. This has an expandable AGP slot, 2 free pci slots, 1 free 5.25" bays, and 2 free 4.5" bays.

I really dislike when people just make crap up to justify their argument.

what about the software, do they come with any kind of software? , and i don't mean solitaire

 

[beatle888]

kcmacs, response to FedEx switching:

???????

I remember this being a topic earlier this year but you say it like it will happen. Do you know something or did I miss the announcement?

FedEx and kinkos are now one and the same. I was in kinkos the other day and found clues to FedEx (which owns kinkos) switching first hand. their mac is running OS X and they have ALL their custom software (the software used to purchase the time on the computer and a bunch of other functions) coded for OS X. its so nice. OS X made it really easy for them to set up a GUI for customers.

i cant wait to read the news about FedEx SWITCHING!!! do you know how huge that is? a company in charge of so much and responsible for so much relying on Apple...beautiful. by your stock once it splits...or before if you can. i hope im right.

 

[kirk26]

I'm thinking a GeForce 5200 at best.

No whining.

Why? The card would be fine.

 

[pigwin32]

The missing link

Microsoft have finally engineered their own demise. OK, perhaps I'm overstating the case somewhat. But forget the KVM, buy a cheap hub, use Remote Desktop Client on your Mac to access your old PC if you really have to.

This works really well for corporates using Windows Terminal Server apps; get rid of Windows from the corporate desktop, use Office Mac if it's required, otherwise just lose all those virus issues in one easy step, plus the old monitors don't have to be thrown out with the PC's. Oh, and might as well throw out those self-important, patronising, and unhelpful Windows' sysadmins while you're at it.

 

[coolfactor]

The HD shouldn't be too loud. But the fan will be louder, as the eMac has a louder fan than the iBook. Unless they're able to really improve on the airflow in this new model.

The eMac also has a heat-generating monitor. That's why such a large fan is needed. The only time I've heard an iBook fan is when I left mine running on a carpet floor all night.... man, that sure scared me! But never heard it again after that.

 

[budugu]

what about the software, do they come with any kind of software? , and i don't mean solitaire

pay 30 bucks you get the whole assortment of it including the photoshop,acrobad elements (yes you can make pdf with that). More over i have never seen a Dell with out a deal ... so the actual prices with some freely floating internet coupons is 20% lower than when you configure. Go get office with that... Apple works, microsoft works or corel works simply does not work... so may be what i am missing is the garrage band i have no clue as i am not into music production at any level. You get all the free DVD watching what ever othe stuff you get with a mac. On a mac you just have one product hence you know and they advertise it. on the other hand on windows there is lot of stuff...

I donot want to start a flame war here but it is pretty pathetic mentality to still think that G4 400 or 700 is better than a celeron 325J (2.53Ghz with 533FSB ..let alone a P4 .. G5 lags P4/AMD64 in benchmarks) and if you are convencied i am fine with that. the only reason people here donot accept SPEC bench marking as it shows what every thing is capable of, but they are happy when apple wrongly taunts using some spec benchmarks as the fastest computer on earth.

 

[coolfactor]

XGrid-ready

Just think.... want to upgrade to a faster computer? Just go buy another one of these cheap puppies and plug it into your existing array of "processing units" to further leverage the power of XGrid. Of course, they'd need to finetune xGrid for only a few processors, but you could have a wickedly-fast computer with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 dedicated processors, each with it's own RAM, disk drive, etc. What a great idea.

 

[Sir_Giggles]

EXTERNAL POWER BRICK!!?!

Unless its like the power supply for the iPod, only larger..Then it could work. hmmmm.

Well, prolly. The PB brick is just a tad larger than the iPod brick, so most likely the uMac brick will be just a tad larger than the PB brick.

 

[bobbygray11]

RVs

One thing that caught my eye was the power supply. It was quite exciting to see a desktop computer by Apple that may be adaptable to a 12V. power system. This is an advantage to Boat and RV people that normally have to use laptops. My PowerBook Maxus out at one gig RAM, Any word on Ram capacity?
Thanks,
Robert H.

 

[edenwaith]

I think my head nearly exploded when I read the posts about cheap pcs not being expandable.

Now the Dell the dell with a 2.4GHz Celeron, a printer, XP home, 256MB, 40Gig, cd-rw, cd, no floppy, firewire, integrated sound, integrated video, nic, fax/modem, comes out to $503. True that there is no AGP so your video is hosed, but there are free pci slots, you can add a floppy if you want, and the optical drives are standard 5.25" drives, and ram can be expanded to 2Gig.

I really dislike when people just make crap up to justify their argument.

Nothing which I wrote was a bunch of crap. I'm appalled after seeing how Dell purposely gimped the design of the Dimension so it cannot be expanded effectively. Additional components like a floppy drive or second hard drive cannot be added without having the specialized carriers which Dell makes. The Dell Dimension is the least upgradable up-right PC desktop I've ever seen in my life. I'm used to PCs which can be easily upgraded, with at least 3 5.25" bays and 2 or 3 3.5" bays. The Dimension came with two 5.25" bays, one occupied by a CD-RW, and the other by a CD-ROM (which was SUPPOSED to have been a DVD-ROM). The hard drive is bolted onto the side of the case by a specialized case. There are no other bays for a floppy drive or an extra hard drive (which would have been very nice). I just really am not pleased with how Dell designed the case of this computer. I've seen some older computers (like some older DEC machines) which were compact, and did not allow for much expansion past a few expansion cards, but then again, those were 486x66 machines. Does this mean that such a low-end computer is not useful? Not at all. It's great for users who have basic needs and aren't worrying about trying to eek out more than 10 FPS in Doom 3.

Lesson learned here: I'm returning to what I used to do with PCs: I'll just get a barebone kit and put it together myself. Oh, and get a few more Macs. Now, do I get a PowerMac or a PowerBook for the next Mac? Decisions, decisions.

 

[skcarter]

I've heard rumors from a friend of mine that works for Apple that what could happen is that the eMacs would return to being an Education only option which would allow the miniMac to become the new low end consumer model. It's food for thought anyhow.

 

[macmax77]

pay 30 bucks you get the whole assortment of it including the photoshop,acrobad elements (yes you can make pdf with that). More over i have never seen a Dell with out a deal ... so the actual prices with some freely floating internet coupons is 20% lower than when you configure. Go get office with that... Apple works, microsoft works or corel works simply does not work... so may be what i am missing is the garrage band i have no clue as i am not into music production at any level. You get all the free DVD watching what ever othe stuff you get with a mac. On a mac you just have one product hence you know and they advertise it. on the other hand on windows there is lot of stuff...

I donot want to start a flame war here but it is pretty pathetic mentality to still think that G4 400 or 700 is better than a celeron 325J (2.53Ghz with 533FSB ..let alone a P4 .. G5 lags P4/AMD64 in benchmarks) and if you are convencied i am fine with that. the only reason people here donot accept SPEC bench marking as it shows what every thing is capable of, but they are happy when apple wrongly taunts using some spec benchmarks as the fastest computer on earth.

What about Piece of mind?
2 months ago a Winblows Thing, maybe you want to call it computer made me loose 16748 dollars, thank you B gates.

As for paying 30 more bucks for something to open PDF's, well i do that without paying those in my Macs.

 

[kcmac]

I've heard rumors from a friend of mine that works for Apple that what could happen is that the eMacs would return to being an Education only option which would allow the miniMac to become the new low end consumer model. It's food for thought anyhow.

That's actually pretty interesting. It would clearly establish some differentiation between the lowend and the iBooks/iMac level.

It would also provide a fairly interesting option for education. An economical upgrade not requiring a monitor or a pretty bulletproof all in one option.

 

[maya]

Well all this means is that 64-bit software is going to take lets see 6 years for all the companies and they applications to go 64.

That is enough time now I don't feel so foolish not buying a G5.


This also means that Apple and Moto are working together meaning the G4 has more life in it than expected too bad it too so long, anyhow dual-core is here to stay.

This machine will be an iBook minus the screen, keyboard, track pad and battery and I am sure many have mentioned this on this thread.

I am sure they will introduce this with colours since the iPod mini did so well and it just makes sense we already have Al, White Plastic for the desktop and portable lines and we have coloured Al for the mini and white plastic for the iPod.

This new iMac mini will be made with Coloured Al so people who bought the iPod mini have something to go crazy about.

And count on this system to have some sort of VGA or DVI not both since it has to keep cost down.

This would look so kewl in a d2 case that has colour.

 

[rumoursofglory]

uMac?

Well I`m glad they might finally produce a headless Mac. Perfect for my parents. But the name game is getting to me. I need some more iSmack.

 

[maya]

I've heard rumors from a friend of mine that works for Apple that what could happen is that the eMacs would return to being an Education only option which would allow the miniMac to become the new low end consumer model. It's food for thought anyhow.

I don't get why they just don't discontinue the eMac, its out of place and it uses a lot of packaging on the CRT.

and please do not use the word miniMac, it reminds me of the character miniMe, and last thing Apple is trying to do is be an Austin Powers movie gimmick though one has to ask in regards to the iMac G3 Flower Power and Dalmatian prints.

 

[xnu]

I can understand your zeal but YOUR TESTING THE LIMITS. A 2.53 Ghz Celeron (325J -533FSB) is fast enough at least boots solaris 10 in less time than my 1.33 Ghz G4 power book can boot. when i am free i will get you the exact timing... when was the last time you have seen benchmarks? spec integer or floating point and any other damn test you please... donot come back with some useless subjective argument (non valid psychophysically) that it is feel that is important! It you who cannot put it to use... My P4 (still waiting the 6600Gt card) with JUST INTEL 915G CHIPSET can play Quake/UT faarrrrrrr better than my powerbook! Some one should wake you up out of your dream!

IT is 600 and DOES NOT have a ipod doc....

I was merely stating that as CONSUMER computer a 1.25 ghz Mac would be as good if not better than a CONSUMER computer running windows, in the same price range. I understand your statement about processor speeds and benchmarks, but from a user standpoint my 83 year old grandmother is not going to be booting Solaris 10 (she has an iMac). And as far as "my useless subjective aurguement" I think the consumer market is based more on the feeling of value to the average consumer who does not grasp spec integer or floating point specs. When was the last time customer at Best Buy asked the for performance specs? Usually the conversation goes "do a get a free printer" or "will I be able to email someone?". A P4 is a totally different story and as a gamer it is better price/performance than a Mac, I still use a Mac for many other reasons, but that is just me.

Further, IMHO, if Apple were to release a $500 Mac I think it is in response to Microsoft intentions with the Xbox 2. This story may play out as more of a battle for content distribution. The first shot fired in the battle was the iTunes music store/iPod and this may be the next move in the digital hub. If anyone noticed the xBox flew off the shelves this xmas.

 

[izzle22]

Entertainment Center

Has anyone even thought that this might be a unit that would stack on a reciever or cd player and connect to a tv and be a part of an entertainment center with a wireless keyboard or remote of some kind????

 

[ioinc]

Well personaly in my own opinion, id never want to see something like that hit the shelf... I've always seen Apple computers as high end, expensive and I guess you could say exotic like a nice Porsche. For me personaly, having a product at that price range would be like Porsche making a car thats as cheap as a toyota. Good for the company? probibly, but I think that ruins the whole exotic idea.

Hmmm.. toyota... best made cards in the world.

Man, it would be great if Porsche made a car everyone could afford... let everyone enjoy the great aspects of the Prosche.

Man it woud be great if Apple made a computer everyone cold afford... let everyone enjoy the greatness of the mac.