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$499 Headless iMac?

mattmack said:
Except my Apple //e was beige. I like the sterile white better though ;)
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Yup.. I was responding to Poff, who said that picture reminded him of his Commodore. My C-64 was medium gray and my C-128 was a lighter shade of beige. :)
 
OT: HAs asomeone thrown away IE in their Macs, i feel like i want to but i am not so sure if i will need it later, thou i haven't in the last 2 years.

Will it be safe to do it?
 
macmax77 said:
OT: HAs asomeone thrown away IE in their Macs, i feel like i want to but i am not so sure if i will need it later, thou i haven't in the last 2 years.

Will it be safe to do it?
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I have trashed it. It won't do anything to your system since it is a mac it is only an application and had no underlying ties to the OS. I believe it is still availablle on Microsofts website if you ever want to install it again
 
macmax77 said:
OT: HAs asomeone thrown away IE in their Macs, i feel like i want to but i am not so sure if i will need it later, thou i haven't in the last 2 years.

Will it be safe to do it?
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ditch it, and then
 
macmax77 said:
OT: HAs asomeone thrown away IE in their Macs, i feel like i want to but i am not so sure if i will need it later, thou i haven't in the last 2 years.

Will it be safe to do it?
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There are some commerce websites with forms that use noncompliant HTML or VBscript or some crap that I have to use IE for occasionally when nothing else (Safari or Netscape) works. Should really boycott them, but sometimes I can't help it. Keep IE but use Safari.
 
Rootman said:
There are some commerce websites with forms that use noncompliant HTML or VBscript or some crap that I have to use IE for occasionally when nothing else (Safari or Netscape) works. Should really boycott them, but sometimes I can't help it. Keep IE but use Safari.
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I haven't seen a single website in almost 5 years now that I couldn't access using either Opera or Firefox (aka Phoenix).
 
IE has a great feature that allows you to save whole web sites. Safari is supposed to have this feature. Can't wait.
 
Hector said:
actually the p3 was a fair bit faster than the p4 clock for clock because of the pipelining

oh and to that guy that said a mx 440 was faster http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-07.html the 9200 comes out on top most of the time.


i'd have to say now that it will defiantly have a 5200 ultra, there is no way it cannot, it needs a core image card and that is the only card that will do it.
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I should point out that the 9200s in that chart are 64 MB and 128 MB. We're talking about a 32 MB one.

Here's a better one.
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-03.html#unreal_tournament_2003
The 9200's are HALF of a frame faster than the MX-440, and these have more VRAM than the one Apple uses.

Here's a better one.
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-06.html

The 64 MB Geforce MX 440 stomps over the 128 MB Radeon 9200.
 
billyboy said:
Add £100 to allow for VAT and UK rip -off pricing policies and at £360 that will still absolutely destroy any cost barriers to owning a Mac in the UK market. (Of course Apple still have to get over the software myths, but they have at least 2 million base customers - aka iPod owners - who have a good idea that a Mac of any sort would just work.)

Im a teacher, and even on my wages, that £400-ish price is nothing. I often wonder if the standard of living in the States is really as high as it is made out to be, what with people here saying, Well for $499 (£260) that would be cool, but $599 (£310) that is pushing it a bit.
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I have no idea what VAT actually is ;)

But I've been to the UK and noticed that pounds are used like dollars.

In the US, a donut that costs $1 costs 1 pound in the UK.

A person that would be payed a yearly salary of $50,000 in the US gets paid 50,000 pounds in the UK.

Basicly, if you lived your life in the UK and moved to America, you'd suddenly have a lot more money ;)
 
Yvan256 said:
I haven't seen a single website in almost 5 years now that I couldn't access using either Opera or Firefox (aka Phoenix).
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http://eu.swbffiles.com/

Sorry to have ruined your record.
Open it in FireFox, then open it in IE. You'll see the massive difference.

Note: Hm, seems to be down, thats weird.
 
macmax77 said:
what we have here is:

you can read but not comprehend...

Do you know how much time you save when you don't have to be running all the spy,virus,defrag softare you need to keep Winblows running???

And the crashes and all, My God...
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And what is the reasoning for those of us who don't have adware? Don't get viruses? Don't crash, and frankly don't have the issues Mac users time and again bring up as reasons why Windows sucks?
In all honesty like I said on page 1 I will pick up a $499-$599 iMac but in the end its not for the propaganda reasons Mac users routinely use.
 
ts1973 said:
First of all : I didn't read all of the thread, but I guess what has to be said was already said.

Then again, I recall at some point the discussion about whether it was Apple software or hardware that made pc-users (reluctant to) switch. I would say it is partially both, but especially software. Most of the hardware Apple manufactures is undoubtedly "sexier" than the PC counterparts, but if you and I can't do the work on the machines that we wan't to, who needs a sexy, expensive toy (except if you are the "showing off" type). Speaking then of the headless iMac or whatever you want to call it, it probably won't be the most attractive Apple kit ever. What it has going for it is the Apple software, which in my opinion remains top of the bill. So I would go out and by this headless thing for my wife right away, were it not that MS Office only exists in English and Frrench, and not in the localized language my wife wants/needs. So actually, in the end it is the software that will work against Apple, in my case anyway.

On a side note, something about the performance of Apple vs PC's. I know it doesn't belong in this thread, but you guys started this discussion. I own a 1,25Ghz Powerbook and a 3Ghz P4 (for the wife and the occasional PC-game). I also do a lot of folding. I can tell you guys that my P4 is at least 2 times faster folding the same work-units. And it does two wu's at the same time using hyper-threading (so you could say it's actually 4 times faster). Not using hyper-threading it's about three times faster than my PB. OK, this could all be down to different software implementation and optimisation, but I think it doesn't look good from a Mac point of view. For me it remains a more academic discussion as I continue using Macs (and have used them for 20 years) mainly because of the superior software.
By the way, can anyone point to a site (not barefeats) that actually compares PC's and Macs with hard figures. I never ran into one.
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It looks fine. A 3 GHz P4 is a LOT faster per MHz than a 2.5 GHz one. See, the 3 GHz one has double the cache and faster bus speed, plus other speed boosts.

A 1.25 GHz G4 is about as fast as a 1.8-2.0 GHz Pentium 4 (remember, a 3 GHz P4 is a lot more than 33% faster than a 2 GHz one), and maybe a 2.4 GHz Celeron.

A 2 GHz G5 is about as fast as a 3 GHz p4, although the 3 actually has more cache than the G5.
 
Platform said:
How could you compare this mac to a Pentium 4 2.8Ghz 512MB Ram 80GB 7200rpm WD and Gfx 5200 128MB ??? would very much like to know :eek:
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Somewhat slower in processor (this will be about equal to a 2 or 2.2 GHz P4 at best), half the HD, and if we're lucky equivilant graphics card, but we don't know what kind of graphics card.

We're talking about the cheapest model ($499), the $599 model will probably be better.
 
Yvan256 said:
A regular TV tuner is now "obsolete", since most cable/satellite providers need their special tuner box to receive channels.

Which digital tuner would Apple include? Or add a BTO choice for different providers?
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I should have said TV capture card. I'm talking about something cheap (standard RCA inputs maybe? or cable line) that you could simply plug the cable/satellite tuner they gave you into it. Or my GameCube :)
 
SiliconAddict said:
And what is the reasoning for those of us who don't have adware? Don't get viruses? Don't crash, and frankly don't have the issues Mac users time and again bring up as reasons why Windows sucks?
In all honesty like I said on page 1 I will pick up a $499-$599 iMac but in the end its not for the propaganda reasons Mac users routinely use.
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For those like you who have the expertise and time--or luck?--to have an attack-free Windows experience, that's great. I don't doubt that many people have that good experience, even if the Windows users I know aren't so lucky.

But MANY others are not in your boat, and are tired of putting time and effort into trying to join you. For them, it's no "propaganda," it's their reality!

Also, stability and security aren't the only advantages to OS X. (Which may have been the point you were making :) )
 
Yvan256 said:
I haven't seen a single website in almost 5 years now that I couldn't access using either Opera or Firefox (aka Phoenix).
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GFLPraxis said:
http://eu.swbffiles.com/

Sorry to have ruined your record.
Open it in FireFox, then open it in IE. You'll see the massive difference.
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The following text from the HTML helps explain why:

<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:eek:="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
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Further down, it appears to put the text into comments mode if the incoming browser isn't -- well, you know whose. This provides a compelling argument why no one should ever create Web files in a Microsoft Office product.
 
And what is the reasoning for those of us who don't have adware? Don't get viruses? Don't crash, and frankly don't have the issues Mac users time and again bring up as reasons why Windows sucks?
In all honesty like I said on page 1 I will pick up a $499-$599 iMac but in the end its not for the propaganda reasons Mac users routinely use.
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You must be single and living on your own. Let your mother use the PC for ten seconds and watch how fast you get adware and viruses. :D
 
bwintx said:
The following text from the HTML helps explain why:



Further down, it appears to put the text into comments mode if the incoming browser isn't -- well, you know whose. This provides a compelling argument why no one should ever create Web files in a Microsoft Office product.
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I know what you mean. I'm with that group making a mod for a game, and when I saw that page I immediately ran to the forum and screamed, "YOU USED FRONTPAGE?????!!!!"
 
Digital Media Center

I am hoping that one of the new pieces of software that Apple is supposed to be debuting at MW is an OS X version of MythTV or other PVR software. A $499 Mac with Airport could stream iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie content from a remote machine, or web stream.
If hooked up to a TV, it could serve as a realistic Digital Media Center with all the functionality of a Mac and full PVR capabilities without the $12.95/month subscription fees.
I would bet that Griffin Technologies is working on either a remote control for such a device, or a full-blown PVR add-on for the Mac. They already have built the time-shifting capability into the RadioSHARK product, tying it to an online scheduler would be a fairly simple Applescript integration I would imagine.
This could be pretty exciting and would offer the Mac world something that is taking off in the PC world today (Windows Media Center).
 
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