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Q88 is the project code name that Apple gave this new computer, according to one of the articles on it. Maybe the ThinkSecret one?
 
I have a question...

So, what's gonna happen when all of these PC users with ipod harddrives formatted for their PC's plug them into their new imac cranes (as in ichabod crane... headless. yeah, i know, bad joke) and are told that they're going to have to reformat their ipod harddrives and lose all the music on their ipods? How easily will they be able to get their music from their PC's to their new imacs and then onto their mac-formatted ipods? I'm sure there's an easy solution, so someone enlighten me...
 
That's not a problem. I've transferred my music library from PC to Mac twice (OK, once it was my husband's collection).

1. I burned a DVD with all of my music and just copied everything over to the Mac

2. My husband hooked up his T41 to his new PB via ethernet and transferred everything over.

Had to transfer over an extra file or two to maintain the playlists, but it is no problem.

And, as we all know, it's worth it. I still think the iPod-iTunes "experience" is far better on the Mac, and I've seen both sides.

My first piece of Apple hardware *ever* was one of the first Win iPods ...now I've switched! :D

JT
 
Stewdy said:
So, what's gonna happen when all of these PC users with ipod harddrives formatted for their PC's plug them into their new imac cranes (as in ichabod crane... headless. yeah, i know, bad joke) and are told that they're going to have to reformat their ipod harddrives and lose all the music on their ipods? .

Hmmm never had this happen to me. Going from PC to Mac works for me- going from Mac to a PC I had to download a file so that a PC would recognize the Mac formating.
 
Really? When I plugged my 3G ipod I use with my ibook into my parent's XP machine it told me I would have to reformat my ipod. I guess I was missing some files. What do I need to download? I'd love to put all my songs on their comp for when I'm home...
 
rog said:
If only they had released the Cube at $499 (about all it was really worth) instead of $1799, it would have been a monster hit!
I think your premise about the value of the Cube is a little out of wack. I agree at the time they were released they were overpriced, but suggesting Apple could have sold these at $499 and made anything but a huge loss is ridiculous.


I bought a couple of Cubes second-hand last year to use as low volume, quiet, and headless webservers (running OpenBSD) which they do very well. I am interested to see what Apple reveals at MWSF. I'm assuming a small, quiet, stylish, headless unit based on the iBook mobo. If these had been available last year I would almost certainly have bought a couple instead of the Cubes. Of course it is amazing how quickly it is possible to develop an attachment to the Cubes, and they do make very cool bookends. Like most Cube owners, I will be reluctant to part with them and for $499.95 I can get a processor upgrade to a 1.7GHz G4.
 
Stewdy said:
Really? When I plugged my 3G ipod I use with my ibook into my parent's XP machine it told me I would have to reformat my ipod. I guess I was missing some files. What do I need to download? I'd love to put all my songs on their comp for when I'm home...

I can not remember it now, however try iPodlounge.com - that is where I found the file (your not missing it, Macs by default read PC formats, PC's do not, at least that has been the case for me... my roomates PC formated Ipod reads fine on my good old G3 that I use as a music server... hoping for a headless iMac replacement ;) )...
 
I can not remember it now, however try iPodlounge.com - that is where I found the file (your not missing it, Macs by default read PC formats, PC's do not, at least that has been the case for me... my roomates PC formated Ipod reads fine on my good old G3 that I use as a music server... hoping for a headless iMac replacement )...

Thanks! I'll give it a shot...
 
easy

Stewdy said:
So, what's gonna happen when all of these PC users with ipod harddrives formatted for their PC's plug them into their new imac cranes (as in ichabod crane... headless. yeah, i know, bad joke) and are told that they're going to have to reformat their ipod harddrives and lose all the music on their ipods? How easily will they be able to get their music from their PC's to their new imacs and then onto their mac-formatted ipods? I'm sure there's an easy solution, so someone enlighten me...

How about networking them together with a hub or crossover, or even using firewire target disk or networking.
 
Handy Tip .... wow i feel like such a Leet now

Stewdy said:
So, what's gonna happen when all of these PC users with ipod harddrives formatted for their PC's plug them into their new imac cranes (as in ichabod crane... headless. yeah, i know, bad joke) and are told that they're going to have to reformat their ipod harddrives and lose all the music on their ipods? How easily will they be able to get their music from their PC's to their new imacs and then onto their mac-formatted ipods? I'm sure there's an easy solution, so someone enlighten me...

Hi people, if you have just moved to a Mac or are on a Mac, and would like to reformat your iPod without losing the songs, use:

http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/application.php?app=iPodRip
:D

the help documentation it comes with/ on the web site is quite useful to help you "rescue" your tunes from your iPod.

Highly recommended if you want to di*k around with your iPod for whatever reason :p
 
Stewdy said:
Really? When I plugged my 3G ipod I use with my ibook into my parent's XP machine it told me I would have to reformat my ipod. I guess I was missing some files. What do I need to download? I'd love to put all my songs on their comp for when I'm home...

In my experience iPod platform switching has been a fairly representative of switching many other things between the platforms. My friend's iPod which he uses with a POS cheapo PC (trust me he's dying to get a mac - probably will in a couple of weeks - once this headless baby is released!) well, it worked fine on my mac - just accepted it straight away recognising the MS formatting - and seemed to be fine when used again on the PC. However, My iPod - well I just wouldn't let it near a PC, so I'll never know. ;)
 
Montserrat said:
In my experience iPod platform switching has been a fairly representative of switching many other things between the platforms. My friend's iPod which he uses with a POS cheapo PC (trust me he's dying to get a mac - probably will in a couple of weeks - once this headless baby is released!) well, it worked fine on my mac - just accepted it straight away recognising the MS formatting - and seemed to be fine when used again on the PC. However, My iPod - well I just wouldn't let it near a PC, so I'll never know. ;)

Good choice hehe :D
 
gekko513 said:
Maybe the modified version of iLife also includes a Media Center like functionality?

From cNet's coverage (http://news.com.com/Gates+touts+TiVo+deal+at+CES/2100-1040_3-5514117.html?tag=nl) of Gates' Media Center presentation at CES yesterday:

"If you look at today's living room, you have five remote controls and you still can't get your music where you want it," Gates said.

The presentation was marred by several technical glitches, including a Windows XP Media Center slide show that couldn't be launched and an Xbox game demonstration that abruptly ended with a blue-screen memory error.

"Right now, nine people are being fired," O'Brien joked after the first snafu. "Who's in charge of Microsoft?"
 
Deefuzz said:
I just got my iMac G5, but if they came out with an iMac that looked like that, I may buy one of those too! :D

While the Cube has its appeal, I think that Apple will take and utilize motherboards from the iBook line in order to have a cost effective product. And in the end maybe a more consumer desirable product.
 
rog said:
Exactly, and they actually made 2004 slower than v.X and it still doesn't benefit from DP or G5 optimizations. I don't mean to get off topic, but my point was that Windoze users expect snappy performance in their main apps, and Office is what many PC users spend all day using, so this new Mac will need to be able to run Office and other programs very fast or they won't attract new users.

Well, aren't we mixing two types of users here? Sure, corporate users will need Office (simple "everyone is using it, I need to use it too" thinking). But what about home users? I don't see suits needing to use iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie/iDVD, Garage Band, etc.

I see Apple as a home computer, and Microsoft/[HP/Dell/etc] as a business computer. The only weird thing is that Microsoft currently has the games, which is a home computer thing.

IMO, if gaming became better (or at least equal) on Macs, Microsoft would lose its foothold on the home market (Windows has too many problems compared to OS X, only business users who work at home would actually want a Windows PC).

To change this, Apple need to start matching the GPU/VRAM capabilities of at least the middle-class PCs (and that currently means "GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB" only on the low-end Macs, the top low-end Mac having 128MB).

You see, game developpers already have to actually care about the small Mac marketshare/installed userbase, but if on top of that Macs have crappy graphics capabilities compared to the PCs, they have to work harder to make their games look good (or even run at all). It's no wonder there's not many games for Macs (compared to PCs).

If gaming on Mac or PC ever reach "it's not that different" in actual gameplay and game choices, home users will take a hard look at Windows and choose to buy a Mac for their next computer.

Of course, if you take gaming out of the picture (with lots of games already available for Gamecube/Playstation2/Xbox), and the person isn't a business-type user, I can't understand why anyone would choose Windows over a Mac. Except for the sticker price, and that's exactly what this "Mac mini" would do at 499$US.
 
Yvan256 said:
Well, aren't we mixing two types of users here? Sure, corporate users will need Office (simple "everyone is using it, I need to use it too" thinking). But what about home users? I don't see suits needing to use iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie/iDVD, Garage Band, etc.

I see Apple as a home computer, and Microsoft/[HP/Dell/etc] as a business computer. The only weird thing is that Microsoft currently has the games, which is a home computer thing.

IMO, if gaming became better (or at least equal) on Macs, Microsoft would lose its foothold on the home market (Windows has too many problems compared to OS X, only business users who work at home would actually want a Windows PC).

To change this, Apple need to start matching the GPU/VRAM capabilities of at least the middle-class PCs (and that currently means "GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB" only on the low-end Macs, the top low-end Mac having 128MB).

You see, game developpers already have to actually care about the small Mac marketshare/installed userbase, but if on top of that Macs have crappy graphics capabilities compared to the PCs, they have to work harder to make their games look good (or even run at all). It's no wonder there's not many games for Macs (compared to PCs).

If gaming on Mac or PC ever reach "it's not that different" in actual gameplay and game choices, home users will take a hard look at Windows and choose to buy a Mac for their next computer.

Of course, if you take gaming out of the picture (with lots of games already available for Gamecube/Playstation2/Xbox), and the person isn't a business-type user, I can't understand why anyone would choose Windows over a Mac. Except for the sticker price, and that's exactly what this "Mac mini" would do at 499$US.

In todays work world the lines are less defined. For someone working in a MS Win office my find themselves at home in the evening or weekends banging out a SS or PP presentation. In the urban areas (based on my experience in the DC area); the work day does not end at 5 or 6PM. And because of the gaming issue, the home PC has become more than just that.

Just as someone else pointed out. The sub $500 arena is the entry point. These consumers are to a great degree "upsold" to bigger machines by the "geeks". Just look at some of the comments on MR about the differences between the G4 and G%, and as to what one should buy.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
While the Cube has its appeal, I think that Apple will take and utilize motherboards from the iBook line in order to have a cost effective product. And in the end maybe a more consumer desirable product.

I'm waiting for iPaint. It'll come in a titanium/polycarbonate bucket and be applied to the nearest convenient surface but offer the full functionality of a G5.

Users bored with watching, and waiting for it to dry, will need to understand that that is the price we have to pay for the stability and increased functionality of a fully modern OS.
 
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