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$499 Headless iMac?

GFLPraxis said:
Office is a peice of crap when it comes to speed on the Mac.

I timed it. I got a 500 mhz Pismo PowerBook G3, and installed Office for OS 9 (it was 98 or something like that), and Office v. X. I started up classic mode.

Office 98 (or whatever) loaded FOUR TIMES FASTER and was far more responsive in CLASSIC mode, than the OS X-native version was.

Office X and 2004 suffer from massive bloat and are also several times slower than the Windows counterparts.
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A few days after buying my brand new iMac G4 700MHz, I bought Office X. It was at least four times slower than Office 98 on my old 200MHz PC that is now my mums. You don't have to wait a lot for things to happen, but they don't happen at the instant you click a button. That is the same reason I hate my Sony Ericsson T610 and, even though this has improved on newer mobiles, will never get a Sony Ericsson again. This might be the case for first-time Mac-users aswell.

The speed has improved some on Office 2004, I know, but it is still slow compared to Windows versions of Office. And a lot of people coming from Wintel world complain about that.

I hope iWork will be ultra-responsive, popular, and soon sport an Apple-version of Excel aswell. This would render Bloat-Office useless for me, and I wouldn't ever need to worry about their crap-ware again.





Btw, have you thought about this..?:
Apple is starting to provide a lot of software with their computers.
iLife $50 new
iWork $100 new (?)
some games and stuff from time to time...

If you "need" a lot of the updated programs, you might soon find it worth considering to buy a new Mac instead of new versions of all these programs, especially if they start shipping a $500 computer. I'm serious, you sell the old computer for $250, and you don't have to pay the $150 - $200 for software, that will leave you with an actual annual cost of not much more than .Mac-services for a yearly speed- and performance-upgrade!

I wonder if Apple are speculating on this...?
 
Poff said:
I can't believe people still think that! Have you never tried Office on a PC? Office on my mothers Pentium 200MHz is faster than it is on any Mac I've ever seen!
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I don't think this is a machine that people will buy to run Office. This is for music and pictures and the life of the soul. (And Apple has a new officework suite that is optimized for PowerPC and OSX that will run like a rocket on anything faster than 500MHz, because that's all the computational power that is required for officework apps other than MS bloatware, and iWork will be released in Windows, too, just to rub it in your face, and will run just as blindingly fast on a 200MHz Pentium as on a 2GHz Pentium.)

Look for Apple to amaze us as it did with the iPod, growing out of the observation that people everywhere were suddenly storing and ripping music on their computers, so what would be cool?

And iPhoto for pictures, have you thought about what a nice, simple, beautiful program that is and how it met the emerging need for people to manage their digital camera stuff?

Now we're all timeshifting our video, and we all bought giant LCD TVs for Christmas, and here's something brilliant that plugs into the place where our screen and surround speakers are, where we watch timeshifted cable and DVDs and listen to our music and flip through our digital pictures.

So don't talk to me, Dell Dude, about Access and Excel and Word and Powerpoint, because that's the kind of crap that runs on the Palm Pilots that we don't use anymore because this is the age of the iPod, and you didn't even notice that the world had changed.
 
Sir_Giggles said:
At least the Canadian pricing on the headless iMac will be updated to reflect the strong CDN dollar. Very exciting times ahead. I may just pick one up.
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Can't agree more. Wouldn't want to see a Mac mini at 500$US / 750$CAN...
 
B_Gates said:
Does anyone know how successful the iMac G5 is? The reason I ask is if it was hugely successful I wonder if the Apple would even be thinking of a headless mac?
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If the iPod is a huge seller, why would Apple want to introduce a smaller model? (aka iPod mini)

Same reasoning.

Edit: Harry K. beat me to it. :D
 
I just thought of something, if it is 499 USD new? Can you imagine the refurb prices? :eek: :D ... of course we wont see any refurbs for quite a while.

I'm excired again. Yee haw! :)
 
Don't hold me to it...

I think everyone has a leg of an elephant...

q88
a list of vessels that are environmentally more friendly

- or -

http://www.packetizer.com/in/q88.html

it references video-conferencing...

likely a coincidence, but I'd like to think there are no coincidences in life.
:D
 
Did you follow the link? Sales way down since article posted.

macmax77 said:
someone was asking about the iMac sales

you might want to heck this out:

http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=3878
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Did you follow the link to http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/ranking/bcn/cpt/desk_d.html ??

It's now down to #18, even though the other entries are diluted by SKU. (The NEC Valuestar is #3, #5 and #7 - same computer, different MHz and GiB.)

A later link for notebooks shows no 'book in the top 20 (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/ranking/bcn/cpt/note_d.html).
 
I can't comment about the speed of office 2004 from personal experience (I bought v.x at a reduced price just before 2004 came out...) But office x runs way better on my parent's 350mhz sawtooth g4 with 256mb RAM/Panther than the newest windows office did on their (now dead) 300mhz PII Dell with XP and 256mb RAM. I can't imagine that a dual 2.5ghz g5 is slow on 2004, though.... office v.x opens word from the dock in just under 1 second for me on my dual 1.8ghz (rev b.) g5 with 768mb ram. :D
 
Don't talk to me about slow MS Office :mad: . Here at work Office uses 3 seconds to open the window, 20 more seconds to display the toolbars (net based company templates or something) and yet another 4 seconds before I can start typing on this poor Pentium 166MHz with Windows NT.
 
gekko513 said:
According to the Inquirer the cheapMac will not be announced at MacWorld but later than that.
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From the article (which can be found here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1212&e=9&u=/zd/20050104/tc_zd/141998)

"Then, a spate of rumors—about a sub-$600 Macintosh (news - web sites) desktop computer, an external audio connector for musical instruments, and a new or revamped productivity suite—suddenly sprung onto the scene.
And in response, Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple Computer Inc. filed suit in Santa Clara County Superior Court against three Web sites, citing inappropriate publication of what the company claimed were trade secrets."

So, here we go again, Apple suing TS, AI and someone else for breaking the news. They're really trying to take the rumour sites down. This can only mean the rumour is true. Now they should announce it next week even if it doesn't ship for another two months or so because it's no longer a secret. Not announcing it wouldn't do any good unless the engineering process is not yet complete. But that's rather unlikely.
 
Zaty said:
From the article (which can be found here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1212&e=9&u=/zd/20050104/tc_zd/141998)

"Then, a spate of rumors—about a sub-$600 Macintosh (news - web sites) desktop computer, an external audio connector for musical instruments, and a new or revamped productivity suite—suddenly sprung onto the scene.
And in response, Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple Computer Inc. filed suit in Santa Clara County Superior Court against three Web sites, citing inappropriate publication of what the company claimed were trade secrets."

So, here we go again, Apple suing TS, AI and someone else for breaking the news. They're really trying to take the rumour sites down. This can only mean the rumour is true. Now they should announce it next week even if it doesn't ship for another two months or so because it's no longer a secret. Not announcing it wouldn't do any good unless the engineering process is not yet complete. But that's rather unlikely.
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Good find. Yep, seems on the money. I hope TS doesn't go offline for this...

I can see mac rumors having to go a bit underground if they keep up this heat...
 
you are the new undercovah man

aswitcher said:
Good find. Yep, seems on the money. I hope TS doesn't go offline for this...
I can see mac rumors having to go a bit underground if they keep up this heat...
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you go to sydney press release event, no? depending on what steve does say, after that at the press release can you harass the apple australia suits to see what juicy nuggets yet unrevealed you can wring out of them ??? yesssss??
:eek:
 
Rootman said:
So don't talk to me, Dell Dude, about Access and Excel and Word and Powerpoint, because that's the kind of crap that runs on the Palm Pilots that we don't use anymore because this is the age of the iPod, and you didn't even notice that the world had changed.
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lol... in this new new new hip and happening economy no cat will have to swing spreadsheets, word processing or data-freebase-ing ;)
 
sunilraman said:
you go to sydney press release event, no? depending on what steve does say, after that at the press release can you harass the apple australia suits to see what juicy nuggets yet unrevealed you can wring out of them ??? yesssss??
:eek:
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Wish I could but I am not in town/country that day...
 
gekko513 said:
According to the Inquirer the cheapMac will not be announced at MacWorld but later than that.
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Well, actually reading the Yahoo Site referenced there mentions the LAST filing on the subject was made on Dec 14th, BEFORE the news of the "uMac" was first posted. That seems to deal more with "Asteroid" than anything else. So I am not sure how this ties in with the low priced mac. I for one would love to see this mac announced on the 11th, I would place my order the moment they appear on the apple store. But if its not announced for 4-6 months, I will be far less likely to purchase it, as I will be most likely forced into an upgrade on my home PC at that time.

Bill
 
BillHarrison said:
Well, actually reading the Yahoo Site referenced there mentions the LAST filing on the subject was made on Dec 14th, BEFORE the news of the "uMac" was first posted. That seems to deal more with "Asteroid" than anything else. So I am not sure how this ties in with the low priced mac. I for one would love to see this mac announced on the 11th, I would place my order the moment they appear on the apple store. But if its not announced for 4-6 months, I will be far less likely to purchase it, as I will be most likely forced into an upgrade on my home PC at that time.

Bill
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This story has legs, it has been picked up by the major media and all the financial media. Had Apple planned on introducing this later, I don't see them having a choice not to announce it now. The time is right, people are drooling over this and they will sell like the original iMac, probably more. You can't buy publicity like this has received. I shudder to think the beating their stock price would take if this is not announced.

When Steve announces this, I see their stock jumping 2 to 3 points that day. While I have taken my huge profits on 500 shares, I still have 200 that I am speculating will jump considerably on this announcement and their Q1 sales numbers.
 
BillHarrison said:
Well, actually reading the Yahoo Site referenced there mentions the LAST filing on the subject was made on Dec 14th, BEFORE the news of the "uMac" was first posted. That seems to deal more with "Asteroid" than anything else. So I am not sure how this ties in with the low priced mac. I for one would love to see this mac announced on the 11th, I would place my order the moment they appear on the apple store. But if its not announced for 4-6 months, I will be far less likely to purchase it, as I will be most likely forced into an upgrade on my home PC at that time.

Bill
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I don't think so, they clearly made reference to the headless Mac, the old story about the Asteroid is way further down in the second paragraph.

Edit: Just re-read the part I quoted in an earlier post, I guess it's totally unambiguous, they were talking about suits that Apple filed for breaking the headless Mac story.
 
steve jobs - the fastest talker in the world!

If Steve is going to cover every rumoured product/announcement in the alloted 90 minutes next week, he is going to have to talk extremely fast! 90 minutes is barely enough time to list all the rumours, never mind introduce them and show them off!

am i right?

donnie3000
 
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