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why would you not want wifi?? also you sound like my bro chuck. if it is this is steven.

For the most part, if I'm going to be in an area where there is WiFi (home or school) I'll just use my MacBook. I wouldn't mind having WiFi on my phone, but I wouldn't pay extra for it. I mainly want an iPhone because of it's OS (same reason my I use Macs).

And this isn't Chuck btw lol. Nice try though Steven! ;) :D
 
This iChat rumors been going round since the last edition ..... While I would love to see it, I cant imagine it would happen at present based on cost & development. Maybe in 2 year .........
 
I call fake. I highly doubt Apple will use an iChat feature. I will eat my words if it happens. Till then... fake

Just so you know, pictures of these Fido phone catalogs in the past year has been proven very accurate.

I know you guys would hate to hear this, but I think they will drop a lower-end model of the iPhone.

And for Americans who don't know anything, Fido is a Canadian wireless carrier that currently serves the iPhone 3G along with Rogers
 
One-hand sign language over 3G does work

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Yeah right, like they can hold the phone AND sign with both hands, or not get their entire points across by signing with only one hand. The 32 mil figure represents those with some degrees of hearing loss, not necessarily the number of ASL users.

As a matter of fact, when 3G took off in Sweden a couple of years ago, many of the early adopters were young people with hearing disabilities that finally got an easy way to communicate with their friends by sign language on the new video-capable cell phones. Using a simplified sign language with only one hand works fine and I have seen it used on cell phones several times, for example in commuter trains.

/Galex
 
Just read through 7 pages of this thread - I'm surprised no one has mentioned this Apple patent yet (posted in 2006):
https://www.macrumors.com/2006/01/13/apple-integrated-sensing-display/

And while I'm on apple patents:

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/26/solar-lcd-powered-ipods-iphones-and-laptops/

So who wants an iphone with a high res display and integrated front facing camera and solar panel? ;)

That's what you got? I got, "How are some of these people so darn stupid?" One person (if not more) was going on about a three-year contract when it's obviously not an AT&T poster (yes fellow Yanks, other countries have iPhones).

Another person was all up in arms about a 4GB iPhone but I swear then said he was going to buy a 32GB one. I have no interest in ever buying an iPod nano, but I totally get the different storage capacities. A 4GB iPhone is just another way to cut costs to get a model down as cheap as possible without using crap parts. There were people who spent $500 on a 4GB iPhone not two years ago, so guessing that people would perhaps spend $99 on one today is hardly crazy. Apple is fighting BlackBerries being thrown at anyone with a pulse, so they gotta do something.

Otherwise, I saw a lot of the same insanity I often see on rumors. Some people will pull an "I'm moving to Canada if so-and-so is elected" bit on a rumor of a freakin' phone. Yikes.
 
Not one person who advocates for video calling on a cell phone has explained how it will work logistically. Just imagine trying to walk down a busy street and use the video calling function. You'd need to hold the phone at arm's length and keep it perfectly still to have a reasonable conversation.

Video calling makes zero sense on a mobile phone. It's fine for a home phone, where the phone can be stationary, but it's completely unfeasible in a mobile product. If (big, big IF) this ever happens, it will be a gimmick only.



Between the poor video quality such a device would entail and trying to sign one handed, I doubt it. Again, video calling on a mobile makes little sense.


erm hello? video chat is not a new invention, in the rest of the world mobile phones with video chat features have been around for years! also people on here are reporting that even in the US they have had video chat on their mobiles.
 
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Yeah right, like they can hold the phone AND sign with both hands, or not get their entire points across by signing with only one hand. The 32 mil figure represents those with some degrees of hearing loss, not necessarily the number of ASL users.

Ya beat me to it on the reply and thank you for making the obvious point!
As one of those 32 million, I text like there is no tomorrow... and never actually use the phone part of the iPhone. There is a little known "calling plan" from AT&T called TAP (Text Accessibility Plan), $40 a month, unlimited data, no voice minutes. Voice minutes are instead charged .40 cents a minute.
http://www.wireless.att.com/about/disability-resources/text-accessibility-plan-for-iphone.jsp


Now that that is cleared up, what other rumors or comments do we have to point to and go "people, THINK before you post". Geez!
 
I think Apple is smart for re-releasing the 4gb iphone. Think about it people. If you had $100 and only $100 to spend. You could either get a lame phone from AT&T or an iPhone. Which would you chose? I'd pick the iPhone anyday.


The average non tech user, has a handful of apps, and mainly just texts and uses the mobile browser and has some songs. Most people don't have 9 pages of apps and an entire movie catalog on their iPhone that would necessitate 32gigs of storage.

As for the video chat, it would be cool, but we'll have to wait and see won't we
 
Just so you know, pictures of these Fido phone catalogs in the past year has been proven very accurate.

I know you guys would hate to hear this, but I think they will drop a lower-end model of the iPhone.

LOL they'll hate to hear it until Apple announces it, at which point they'll say its a fantastic decision by Apple!
 
As a matter of fact, when 3G took off in Sweden a couple of years ago, many of the early adopters were young people with hearing disabilities that finally got an easy way to communicate with their friends by sign language on the new video-capable cell phones. Using a simplified sign language with only one hand works fine and I have seen it used on cell phones several times, for example in commuter trains.

/Galex

They didn't say an ASL signer couldn't, just that it would be a limited conversation with just one hand. And keep in mind that American Sign Language is different than what is "spoken" in Sweden, so the Swedish version may be easier with one hand or much more difficult... I suppose unless you know both, its hard to compare.
 
You guys are forgetting that Canada does not have unlimited data.

I have the 6gb plan, but that was a promo...iPhone plans are 30 bucks for 1 gig.

If they put in video chat...people are gonna go over their limit every month and be pissed they're paying a ridiculous amount in overage charges.

Also..fido is not getting the iPhones, it's rogers discount brand..they stopped selling new iPhones on fido a couple months ago.
 
just a thought - maybe the 4gb phone will take a smaller form factor, with the screen etc staying the same, but shrinking a little at the top (so the microphone is at the top of the phone, as in some recent rumors?
 
I guess the best use of the front facing camera would be for paranoid GF/wife to check on their man. "Why are you not home yet? you sure you are working on overtime? Activate video chat and show me where you are now!!!"
LOL Is that all you can come up with? I sure hope that your relationship (you do have one?) is a lot better and merely based on trust.

Oh, and for your info: you don't even need a (new) iPhone with GPS for this to check ;)
 
thats an amazing range..
i dont really see the point of a 4GB though.. it seems too small.
i guess it makes it cheaper, and more affordable
 
I think Apple is smart for re-releasing the 4gb iphone. Think about it people. If you had $100 and only $100 to spend. You could either get a lame phone from AT&T or an iPhone. Which would you chose? I'd pick the iPhone anyday.


The average non tech user, has a handful of apps, and mainly just texts and uses the mobile browser and has some songs. Most people don't have 9 pages of apps and an entire movie catalog on their iPhone that would necessitate 32gigs of storage.

As for the video chat, it would be cool, but we'll have to wait and see won't we

Good point, I realized by having the 16gb 3g that even with 9 pages up, podcasts, songs, I could have done with the 8 Gg too, if had to financially.
 
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