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4GEE iPhone 5 thread

I'm waiting for EE 4G :).

Prices will decide whether I get the handset SIM free and have a SIM only contract, or if I get a subsidised handset through them.
 
Mercenary said:
The reason many dont do it is they would need to offer one system for the regular phones, another for the iPhone users and another for the android flavour of visual voicemail. The cost to run and maintain multiple systems is a cost many carriers can happily do without. You have to pay to maintain 3 sets of hardware, backups, upgrades, staff skills.

someone would do the math, how much money would they make offering visual voicemail and getting those customers vs how much they would make if they didnt and lost customers. If the math says more by not doing it then thats what they will do, so customer satisfaction.
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Hullomail offer a pretty good alternative
 
Not really interested unless they offer SIM-Only Tariffs at decent price points. DC-HSDPA and even normal 3G are enough for me currently.
 
Mercenary said:
The reason many dont do it is they would need to offer one system for the regular phones, another for the iPhone users and another for the android flavour of visual voicemail. The cost to run and maintain multiple systems is a cost many carriers can happily do without. You have to pay to maintain 3 sets of hardware, backups, upgrades, staff skills.
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Not really. The message will be stored on the voicemail system in the same way, but for Visual Voicemail it just pushes an audio file out to the phone.
 
I'm waiting on seeing what sim only short term deals they offer, if any. Currently on 3's £12.90 unlimited data 30 day deal but not impressed with their coverage. Speeds are great but only when I actually have coverage!

I can't imaging EE LTE deals being near that price point. Not at launch anyway.
 
Steve121178 said:
Yep, they will be expensive. They will try and lock as many people (and business users primarily) into daft two year contracts at a high cost and then over time (or as demand drops) lower tariffs will become available.

In short, you would have to be mentally unstable to take out an expensive EE contract, particularly if you live in an area that doesn't benefit from the higher speeds which is technically what you are paying for.
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Wait so you can't change plans once you're locked in to a contract in the UK? In Canada, you can change plans all you want as long as you are getting both Voice and Data for the entire span of the contract if you have a contract with both services, or just Voice if you have a Voice-only contract. The only time that price comes into play is when you want to upgrade, some lower price points may not be eligible for new phones.
 
vladzaharia said:
Wait so you can't change plans once you're locked in to a contract in the UK? In Canada, you can change plans all you want as long as you are getting both Voice and Data for the entire span of the contract if you have a contract with both services, or just Voice if you have a Voice-only contract. The only time that price comes into play is when you want to upgrade, some lower price points may not be eligible for new phones.
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No, you can't downgrade, although you can upgrade to a higher plan, typically. The reason for this is that the more expensive tariffs attract higher commission to the dealers and more subsidy on the phones. The dealers used to sign people up to the top end tariffs, tell them to downgrade to a cheaper deal a month later and pocket the extra cash. The operators put a stop to this by refusing to let people downgrade to cheaper deals.
 
Mercenary said:
The reason many dont do it is they would need to offer one system for the regular phones, another for the iPhone users and another for the android flavour of visual voicemail. The cost to run and maintain multiple systems is a cost many carriers can happily do without. You have to pay to maintain 3 sets of hardware, backups, upgrades, staff skills.

someone would do the math, how much money would they make offering visual voicemail and getting those customers vs how much they would make if they didnt and lost customers. If the math says more by not doing it then thats what they will do, so customer satisfaction.
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I'm fairly sure the iPhone, Android and Windows Phones all use the same Visual Voicemail service. A while back I heard that it was actually an AT&T technology, and that the only reason O2 decided to pay to license it was because it was a condition for their iPhone exclusivity contract.
 
Jacksteruk309 said:
that the only reason O2 decided to pay to license it was because it was a condition for their iPhone exclusivity contract.
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O2 are not the supplier of the Visual Voicemail platforms. A google of Visual Voicemail supplier turns up the following link:

http://www.telephonyworld.com/news/...e-market-research-confirms-consumer-interest/

http://www.comverse.com/press_releases.aspx?newsId=1610

Who ever makes the platform has to pay the costs of licensing any technologies, although obviously that cost is passed onto the operator.

I also happen to know that both O2 and Comverse in the UK are based in Slough.
 
Theres loads of visual voicemail solutions out there. I used to look after a Cisco Unity one. All they really do is email a WAV file to your mailbox or give you some web interface to view it. Its getting one which supports the iPhone though.
 
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