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Cant tell the difference. Certainly not worth paying extra for unless you need to shoot in 4K for your profession. Which is not many people.

How is this possible?
The 6s looks like it´s being used during an earthquake :)
 
I'm an enthusiastic user of both android and ios and both have their pros and cons. To believe one is so superior to the other is just pure nonsense, and I'd say the chance is high that you've never even tried android.

Spyware OS? Give me a break. I wonder who had the biggest security scandal ever with the icloud photos leak.
I had many Android phones, because the frustration often leads you to buy a new one from a different manufacturer thinking it will be better. The security flaws with Android are such common place, it doesn't even make news anymore. Remember the news about a websites that can brick Android phones just by visiting them? Or everything ever written by Samsung keyboards being vulnerable to interception because of a security hole? Or many other articles that never make it big because no one cares, and only Apple news generate clicks.

The only reason to buy an Android is if you cannot afford an iPhone or a laptop, and you need a sub $200 device that does everything.

Android is just an insecure thrown together Java code, made solely to invade people's privacy for advertisement purposes, used by broke OEMs who just don't have the finances to fight Apple at the high end market.
 
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I wish Apple would try to make same specification products with just different screen sizes! 4", 4.7", 5.5"

Hate to be left out just 'cause I don't want the Plus. :(


I feel the same, though I am getting the Plus on Monday ;-) All sizes should have the same features, if applicable and possible, of course.
 
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4K isn't like 720p, its is a big upgrade I think. But especially more so on larger TV's. But I think the biggest changes coming to TV and Video is UHD, which includes 4K as a piece, but the bigger and more significant changes are adding a wider color gamut, its a huge upgrade, bigger then 4K imo. Also other features as well like HDR video. So as a whole 4K I think is a nice upgrade, but the new UHD spec, as seen in the new blu-ray's that are coming out next year will be huge.

Yup. There's more than one type of UHD. There's 4K (2160p) UHD, 8K UHD, 16K UHD.

It's the same back when we were indoctrinated about HD (High Definition). There's 360p, 480p, 720p HD, and 1080p HD,

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing
 
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I assume this must apply only to 4k video? We've been recording video using iPhones for years without OIS, and I've never had an issue with the stability of the video. Just looking through a handful of my most recent videos from my iPhone 6, they look extremely steady. I'm very curious to see how or why that would suddenly change with 4k.

Starting with the iPhone5, Apple used digital stabilisation. This is why the video mode shows a significantly narrower field-of-view - as do any kind of digital stabilisation in any device, not only iPhones. (I've published several articles on en/disabling the digital stabilisation here in the MR forums: see for example https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-during-video-recording-with-sources.1600908/ )

Digital stabilisation (DIS for short) does reduce shakiness but, when implemented properly, OIS can reduce it even more. Think of it: you only have some 10-15% more (cropped) pixels to compensate for shakiness. You can't, therefore, compensate a, say, 50% shake. With a decent OIS (like those of Olympus MILC's), you easily can.

Based on the 6S+ videos I've seen so far, the OIS implementation seems to be satisfactory - that is, significantly better than DIS.
 



Last year, the iPhone 6 Plus had one camera feature the iPhone 6 did not: optical image stabilization for photos, which automatically adjusts the camera sensor to make up for any shakiness the camera may endure. With the iPhone 6s Plus, Apple has added optical image stabilization for video as well as still images. Tonight, Giga Tech has uploaded a new video that shows off the 6s Plus' optical image stabilization versus the iPhone 6s.


While the iPhone 6s doesn't have optical image stabilization, it does have digital image stabilization, which is the camera's software accounting for any shakiness. Giga Tech notes that digital image stabilization works well when the iPhone 6s is shooting in Full HD 1920x1080, but that it's not as effective when shooting in 4K, as shown in the video.

The video, which takes place in an old, abandoned airplane, offers a striking comparison of the two device's video capabilities. While the iPhone 6s footage looks fine on its own, the contrast to the smoother iPhone 6s Plus footage makes its shakiness seem more pronounced.

Article Link: 4K Video from iPhone 6S Plus Shows Striking Advantage of Optical Image Stabilization

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I doubt 6S+ camera with OIS takes up much more space than the camera on the 6S. I hate the fact fact that I am making a compromise buying the 6S now. Honestly I would pay $100 more for this on the regular 6S. This is total BS in my opinion to get people to spend $100 more. I'm already paying $200 for 128GBs, why am I getting an inferior product? I cannot walk comfortably with an iPhone 6S+ in my pocket, belt holsters make an ugly bulge under my shirt, so how else am I suppose to carry it (somewhat fashionably)?
In the 6S Plus, and in any other device, Optical Image Stabilization requires a significantly more complicated mechanical system and will *always* be bigger than a camera lens system that only uses digital image stabilization.
 
So this is a +$100 feature all by itself? Come on. Have all same year updates have the same feature set despite screen size. Pay for screen size. Heck, have a +$100 double battery feature on all models which, since the cost basis is negligible, have far higher margins.

Margins for features users NEED, good, right?

P.S. Get a camera tripod for 4K.

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First, things like a higher capacity battery and Optical Image Stabilization take meaningful space inside the case, so probably can't fit in the smaller phones (yet, anyway).
Second, you don't think it is strange when you pay different amounts for different meals at a restaurant or different features on a car. Why should features and models magically be free on a phone? And, yes, they do have additional design and manufacturing costs.
 
According to Apple's spec page there is no cinematic stabilization (digital stabilization) for 4K video. I would imagine 12 megapixels isn't big enough for it.
I don't have any special info from Apple, but I guarantee that the OIS is used at all video resolutions. OIS is a mechanical system that is driven by image data. "4K (actually Quad HD - 3840x2160) will be better than HD (1920x1080).
 
I don't have any special info from Apple, but I guarantee that the OIS is used at all video resolutions. OIS is a mechanical system that is driven by image data. "4K (actually Quad HD - 3840x2160) will be better than HD (1920x1080).

Right, but I was talking about digital image stabilization (DIS) not optical image stabilization (OIS). I think it would be safe to assume that OIS is used for all resolutions since it's listed under the specs as "Optical image stabilization for video (iPhone 6s Plus only)" and not a specific resolution. Plus it just wouldn't make sense, as you mention, being at separate mechanical system.
 
What about HD vs HD? Cant see myself shooting 4k very often due to all the memory it would eat up.
I don't have numbers, but, it shouldn't be an issue for 128GB models. For 16 GB, you wouldn't have much. 64GB should give you plenty of room, if it isn't filled up with other stuff.

I've seen the settings page on the approximate storage of each HD resolution for one minute of video and it's around 380 MB/minute.

At 128Gb, you should have plenty of minutes if that is all you are doing. I really don't expect people to try to shoot a feature film with their Rose Gold 6S Plus.

I don't have any special info from Apple, but I guarantee that the OIS is used at all video resolutions. OIS is a mechanical system that is driven by image data. "4K (actually Quad HD - 3840x2160) will be better than HD (1920x1080).

I would be most interested in what OIS does to battery life. I have a mid-price camera with OIS, and, it tends to use up the battery pretty fast when enabled. The battery looks like the weakest link on most of these new phones.
 
But here's the thing, for me the 6 Plus is too cumbersome to use much for taking videos. I had the 6, used it for video all the time . . then I got the 6 Plus and hardly ever used it for videos, awkward to hold with one hand . . . I actually found the stabilization on the 6 very good, yes the optical on the plus was marginally better but not enough for me to be trying to keep holding something the size of a large chocolate bar steady with one hand. For me the 6 size is better for camera and video use, I would rather end up with 100 videos vs 25 videos that have marginally better stabilization.
 
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It most definitely is, just not at the 4K resolution.

No it isn't.

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I put the 6s and the 6s plus side by side in the apple store and the 6s plus looked much more stable, more camcorder like than the 6s which basically looked like the video you record with a phone, lots of small shakes. Without seeing the 6s plus you almost don't notice how much shake there is in the normal cell phone video because we have become so used to it, for me the difference was night and day. I did however have the feeling that the 6s was a tad bit sharper.
Overall I am not happy about the difference in video stability between the 6s and 6s plus since if I decide to buy the new iPhone 6s I am not even getting the best iPhone out there. Did apple ever explain why the 6 or 6s did not have the OIS? If they didn't they can start now, together with explaining why the new apple TV does not have 4K and why there bottom line is more important than consumer satisfaction in keeping the smallest iPhone model at 16 Gb and not 32 Gb.
 
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Funny thing is when the iPhone 6 and 6+ first came out last year all the tech reviewers did video side by sides to show how OIS made the video smoother.

Now we find out OIS never worked on Video until the 6S+

Probably timetravellers with a future device and current naming scheme. Under NDA of course. :)
 
I've played around a bit now with my 6S and I'm not having any issues with anything out of the norm. Sure OIS is better but it's not horrible without it. I'd go on to say it's no par with last year's batch of 6 & 6+ video.
 



Last year, the iPhone 6 Plus had one camera feature the iPhone 6 did not: optical image stabilization for photos, which automatically adjusts the camera sensor to make up for any shakiness the camera may endure. With the iPhone 6s Plus, Apple has added optical image stabilization for video as well as still images. Tonight, Giga Tech has uploaded a new video that shows off the 6s Plus' optical image stabilization versus the iPhone 6s.


While the iPhone 6s doesn't have optical image stabilization, it does have digital image stabilization, which is the camera's software accounting for any shakiness. Giga Tech notes that digital image stabilization works well when the iPhone 6s is shooting in Full HD 1920x1080, but that it's not as effective when shooting in 4K, as shown in the video.

The video, which takes place in an old, abandoned airplane, offers a striking comparison of the two device's video capabilities. While the iPhone 6s footage looks fine on its own, the contrast to the smoother iPhone 6s Plus footage makes its shakiness seem more pronounced.

Article Link: 4K Video from iPhone 6S Plus Shows Striking Advantage of Optical Image Stabilization
 
I have the 6s and have to say that the image stabilisation on video is astounding. You should have compared the 1080hd in both the s Plus and the s. That would have been fair. The 4K doesn't seem to work that well on the 6s and as a previous responder has pointed out there are still more uses for standard HD to 4K due to uptake of monitors.
 
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