To me it sounds like you abandoned the 5s over a few uncalibrated batteries and a compass that you will never use.
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4s to 5s to 5c. This is my story.
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I absolutely agree that I abandoned the 5s. I abandoned it out of frustration, lack of time to continue getting new ones and overall disappointment with the way my issues were being handled. It just left me with a bad taste over the whole thing. I simply didn't want to deal with it anymore.
Yes, 7.5 hours is ok. But the fact is, they advertise 10 and I've seen many people on here getting 8, 9, 10. Now I know, I have no idea what they're doing. They could be listening to music. But the point is, I felt cheated.
I simply refuse to believe that this 5c will get the same battery life that the 5s did. And so far I'm right. On pace for 8+ hours with 27% left. So well see. Oh and by the way, as has been documented, compass is used for location/mapping and level is used for gaming. So even though it's indirect use, they are both extremely important.
Yes, 7.5 hours is ok. But the fact is, they advertise 10 and I've seen many people on here getting 8, 9, 10. Now I know, I have no idea what they're doing. They could be listening to music. But the point is, I felt cheated.
I simply refuse to believe that this 5c will get the same battery life that the 5s did. And so far I'm right. On pace for 8+ hours with 27% left. So well see. Oh and by the way, as has been documented, compass is used for location/mapping and level is used for gaming. So even though it's indirect use, they are both extremely important.
OP, I read your entire story and loved it. I am at the moment considering abandoning my serious love/hate relationship with my Galaxy S4, and getting a 5C. So the more experiences I can read, the better!
Ignore the haters and baiters.
Ignore the haters and baiters.
Honestly, who cares what you got? It is good for you so be happy and enjoy! Phone is not something people should be worry so much and write long poetry about. It is tool, not even your dog or bird. I am changing phones one time a year, I don't even know how to use it well by the time I am getting another one.
All well and good, and glad you're happy... but it's this bit that always strikes me as curious:
Anyway, MY point is, if you're eligible, I just don't get the "I don't wanna be tied to a contract" thing. If you're eligible for a subsidized upgrade, YOU ARE GIVING MONEY AWAY BY NOT TAKING IT.
You are basically betting that you are going to leave your carrier within two years. Well, really, you're betting that you're going to leave within a few months.
The subsidized 64GB 5S is $399 with contract. You paid $922. But let's go with the unlocked price of $849, because you paid some tax. So, for the privilege of an unlocked phone you paid $450 more than the contract price.
But what is the cost of breaking the two-year contract? According to the info from the two biggest carriers, the early termination fee for AT&T is $325 (minus $10 for each full month completed). For Verizon, it's $350 (with the same $10 taken off each month). (I'll assume the other major carriers are similar, but you can do your own research.)
So, if you agree to the two-year contract, and buy a subsidized phone, and then terminate the contract the next day (or whatever), you're still spending $100-125 less than if you buy an unlocked phone to avoid the contract!
Please correct me if I'm wrong!
I may have missed what carrier you're on, and you didn't actually state that you were eligible for an upgrade... but I'll assume you were eligible, because you said you bought it outright to avoid a contract. (If you were ineligible, you'd HAVE to buy a full-priced phone, and your point would be moot.)
Anyway, MY point is, if you're eligible, I just don't get the "I don't wanna be tied to a contract" thing. If you're eligible for a subsidized upgrade, YOU ARE GIVING MONEY AWAY BY NOT TAKING IT.
You are basically betting that you are going to leave your carrier within two years. Well, really, you're betting that you're going to leave within a few months.
The subsidized 64GB 5S is $399 with contract. You paid $922. But let's go with the unlocked price of $849, because you paid some tax. So, for the privilege of an unlocked phone you paid $450 more than the contract price.
But what is the cost of breaking the two-year contract? According to the info from the two biggest carriers, the early termination fee for AT&T is $325 (minus $10 for each full month completed). For Verizon, it's $350 (with the same $10 taken off each month). (I'll assume the other major carriers are similar, but you can do your own research.)
So, if you agree to the two-year contract, and buy a subsidized phone, and then terminate the contract the next day (or whatever), you're still spending $100-125 less than if you buy an unlocked phone to avoid the contract!
Please correct me if I'm wrong!
I love my 5S in gold with Spigen Air case.
B E A Youtiful (as one of my favourite actors once said)
That said, I did visit the local Apple store and looked at and held the 5C phones. Amazing build quality and in no way (c)heap.
B E A Youtiful (as one of my favourite actors once said)
That said, I did visit the local Apple store and looked at and held the 5C phones. Amazing build quality and in no way (c)heap.
In my way of thinking, I went with Straight Talk (and paid another 14 months for 2 unused verizon phones) because with the economy being what it is, had I lost my job, I didn't want to be stuck with 2 ETF's on data phones... Easier to pay outright for used iPhone's and pay a lot lower monthly bill...
At one point, I was paying $315/mo for 5 phones, only 3 of which had data packages... Now I pay $100.30/mo for 2 iPhones with unlimited talk/text and 2gb of data (supposedly unlimited, yeah right...)
But, the bill isn't lower because you bought the phones outright, is it? I mean, aren't they mutually exclusive?
In any case, I'm not familiar with "Straight Talk"... I'm talking about the major carriers here, and where folks are eligible for an upgrade but don't. They stay with their carrier, and buy expensive unlocked phones to avoid a contract.
Still waiting for a good argument for doing this.
I pay roughly 50% of retail buy buying a used phone... I only replace the phone when I can afford to do so. If I was to lose my job, I simply would keep using the same model, by doing this, I control if and when my phone gets replaced without the worry of ruining credit due to ETF's I can't pay...
okay, but yours is an isolated situation. I'm talking about a philosophy here. I'm talking about upgrade-eligible people buying NEW, full-priced phones to avoid being tied to a contract.
Oh, yeah, besides, who isn't gonna have a cell phone in two years? Where else you gonna get it?
Based on the massive amount of ST users, I'm far from isolated, and the ST community is growing by leaps and bounds...
You know, I think you may be right. In fact, I was banking on leaving AT&T before the next 2 years. However, using your math, I do think you have a point. The problem is, I was ineligible for a full upgrade. All they were willing to give me was $200 off. So instead of $399, I would have paid $649. Had I broken the contract, (I guess it all depends when, I'll use 6 months for instance) I would have been breaking even. However, I was under the impression it was $375 and $5 per month comes off. Am I wrong?
I have a 5C and I plan on doing this for 5S around the holidays. People are more motivated to sell around that time to get their money right for the holidays. My 5C will keep me occupied until then.
I got the info from the ATT site here:
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/articles-resources/early-term-fees.jsp
Smartphone that requires a data plan with a
service commitment :
$325 minus $10 for each full month
of completed Service Commitment
service commitment :
$325 minus $10 for each full month
of completed Service Commitment
So, ya gotta do the math for your own situation...
My musings/thoughts/rantings are directed solely at those ELIGIBLE for the FULL upgrades, who still think it's beneficial to buy phones at full price simply to avoid the 2-year commitment... So, if your situation is different, you can kinda ignore me!
If I were you... if you're off contract (or close) and want to bail from your current carrier, I'd try to be patient and wait until I switch to the new carrier to get the new device. (I've been with ATT a long time, so I've forgotten the protocol, but I think if you're a new customer with a carrier, you get the subsidized price, yes?)
Just to update. My new 5c was getting me 8-8.5 hours of usage on a single charge. Now it's getting me north of 9 hours. So to all of you telling me I'm stupid and this and that, I got the last laugh. Because I'm happy!! And I have a working phone that actually delivers on battery life it's supposed to. I no longer have to settle for my "normal" 6-7 hours. And before anyone asks, no settings have been changed.
So every time you charge your phone for the next 7-9 hours you are no where near a power point, car charger. Lame reason for getting a 5c, unless you are a bear and out in the woods all day
Now there's a last laugh lol
I'm a spec whore too. But it just got to the point of exhaustion. My specs weren't working. So what's the good? Sounds good on paper. Real life was very different.
As for the battery, yes, I'm near a charger a lot. But the point is I'm paying for something, therefore I should get it. Also, there are plenty of times I'm not near a charger and I HATE when my phone dies rapidly. Sometimes I may leave a charger and only be at 50%. Now I get close to 5 hours where as with the 5s I only got 3. It makes a huge difference.
As for the battery, yes, I'm near a charger a lot. But the point is I'm paying for something, therefore I should get it. Also, there are plenty of times I'm not near a charger and I HATE when my phone dies rapidly. Sometimes I may leave a charger and only be at 50%. Now I get close to 5 hours where as with the 5s I only got 3. It makes a huge difference.
Depends on usage scenario 5C will have better battery life as 5S have more sensors and beefier CPU.
Just share my story here.
My first iphone is 3GS (new, before 3GS the spec is not worth it), then 4 (buy without contract due to 3GS died within 1.5 years), then 5S.
Normally I buy used phone as it is almost half the price within a year. But 5S is a killer upgrade and I can't stand using iphone 4 due to it's very laggy with iOS 7.
What matters to me (come from iphone 4):
1. New sensors
2. New camera
3. M7
4. 4G is now ready in whole Singapore
5. better screen (color gamut and bigger but still manageable with one hand).
With new sensors and M7, it open new possibilities for apps. This is the main reason to keep the 5S, otherwise I'll buy used 5 or 5c.
Speed doesn't matter too much as 5 is already big jump from my 4. 5c is better due to fully utilized both 4G frequency used in Singapore but the price difference is not that worth it compared with used iphone5.
So it's never about build quality, 5C is very solid and nicer in hand compared with rough edges with iphone 5/5S.
Just share my story here.
My first iphone is 3GS (new, before 3GS the spec is not worth it), then 4 (buy without contract due to 3GS died within 1.5 years), then 5S.
Normally I buy used phone as it is almost half the price within a year. But 5S is a killer upgrade and I can't stand using iphone 4 due to it's very laggy with iOS 7.
What matters to me (come from iphone 4):
1. New sensors
2. New camera
3. M7
4. 4G is now ready in whole Singapore
5. better screen (color gamut and bigger but still manageable with one hand).
With new sensors and M7, it open new possibilities for apps. This is the main reason to keep the 5S, otherwise I'll buy used 5 or 5c.
Speed doesn't matter too much as 5 is already big jump from my 4. 5c is better due to fully utilized both 4G frequency used in Singapore but the price difference is not that worth it compared with used iphone5.
So it's never about build quality, 5C is very solid and nicer in hand compared with rough edges with iphone 5/5S.
