5.0.1 Bug? Full Charge Alert

rstark18

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Has anyone been getting an alert every few minutes after the watch has reached full charge? I started getting this after the 5.0.1 update. After spending a long time with apple support and removing all the variables (charger clean back etc.) they sent it to the engineering team and seemed to imply that it might be a 5.0.1 issue. The case is open but if others are having this issue then engineering wants to hear from you.
 
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Scott G.

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Has anyone been getting an alert every few minutes after the watch has reached full charge? I started getting this after the 5.0.1 update. After spending a long time with apple support and removing all the variables (charger clean back etc.) they sent it to the engineering team and seemed to imply that it might be a 5.0.1 issue. The case is open but if others are having this issue then engineering wants to hear from you.
Quite a few people (myself included) have said they their watches seem warm when taking them off the charger, even after it's been charged to 100% for a while. Almost like the watch doesn't stop charging once it gets to 100%, like it should. 5.0.1 probably added the beeps as one of Apple's "features" to remind you to take the watch off the charger, so they don't over-charge, instead of admitting there may be a charging problem. Just blame it on the consumer for leaving their watches charging.. =/
 

rstark18

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After talking with Apple this morning and having the case escalated to the engineering team I decided to try one more thing that a lower level tech asked me to try. Instead of erasing and loading a backup, do a reset to factory defaults. This is done by unpairing then at the setup screen press the crone and select reset to factory defaults. I did this then loaded my backup. After it was up and running I left it on the charger for a few hours which was more than enough time as the watch was already almost at 100%. During the three or four hours it was on the charger it didn't give me the charge full screen with the ding. Also, when I pulled it off it was cool to the touch.
I don't know how this is different than a regular unpairing. I thought unpairing took it to factory defaults but maybe not.
We'll see tonight if the bug is gone for good.
 
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ZipZap

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After talking with Apple this morning and having the case escalated to the engineering team I decided to try one more thing that a lower level tech asked me to try. Instead of erasing and loading a backup, do a reset to factory defaults. This is done by unpairing then at the setup screen press the crone and select reset to factory defaults. I did this then loaded my backup. After it was up and running I left it on the charger for a few hours which was more than enough time as the watch was already almost at 100%. During the three or four hours it was on the charger it didn't give me the charge full screen with the ding. Also, when I pulled it off it was cool to the touch.
I don't ok now how this is different than a regular unpairing. I thought unpairing took it to factory defaults but maybe not.
We'll see tonight if the bug is gone for good.
What is a regular unpairing?

If I understand you, you unpaired the watch then on the watch did a reset?

Then repaired the watch and reloaded from a backup?

My watch is always warm off the charger and I just think that this should not be considered normal.

Please post back if the warm issue was truly resolved.
 

Julien

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Quite a few people (myself included) have said they their watches seem warm when taking them off the charger, even after it's been charged to 100% for a while. Almost like the watch doesn't stop charging once it gets to 100%, like it should. 5.0.1 probably added the beeps as one of Apple's "features" to remind you to take the watch off the charger, so they don't over-charge, instead of admitting there may be a charging problem. Just blame it on the consumer for leaving their watches charging.. =/
There can't be an overcharging problem. Charging lit-ion batteries is a lot like inflating a ballon. If you DON'T stop charging them they will swell up (Watch uses a soft pouch) and can explode and even catch fire.
 
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ZipZap

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There can't be an overcharging problem. Charging lit-ion batteries is a lot like inflating a ballon. If you DON'T stop charging them they will swell up (Watch uses a soft pouch) and can explode and even catch fire.
So because my watch has not yet exploded I am safe?
 

Dormammu

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Interesting. Is this what my watch has been doing?

I’ve noticed that when my watch is charging at some point I’ll hear the charging ding (like when you place your watch on the charger). When I look at it, it’s fully charged. I thought maybe something was wrong with my watch or it was something wrong with my charger. If I ignore it I’ll hear another ding later. But if I take my watch off and put it back on the charger it doesn’t ding anymore.

Sometimes my watch is warm (not hot) at full charge, other times not.
 

rstark18

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Well the reset did not work. I woke up in the middle of the night to my watch giving me the fully charged animation along with the ding. I had to put it on silent.
The guy that was assigned my case is on vacation for a week and is supposed to follow up with me on the 16th. He said if engineering comes up with anything then they will call me.
I suspect that this will be taken care of with 5.0.2 but in the meantime is REALLY annoying.
 
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frogywill

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Well the reset did not work. I woke up in the middle of the night to my watch giving me the fully charged animation along with the ding. I had to put it on silent.
The guy that was assigned my case is on vacation for a week and is supposed to follow up with me on the 16th. He said if engineering comes up with anything then they will call me.
I suspect that this will be taken care of with 5.0.2 but in the meantime is REALLY annoying.
I was having this problem as well. I changed the charger and it hasn’t happened since...
 

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So is this a real issue? I thought it was a normal behaviour for the Watch to be hot at 100% after taking it from the chsrger after a while. I have done a factory reset before and it still didn't fix it...
 

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Agghh, glad to see I'm not the only one! This has been happening for some time to me - definitely after the WatchOS 5.0.1 update. Once the watch reaches 100%, it will start "dinging" like when you first put it on the charger every few minutes... which is incredibly annoying when I'm charging it on my bedside overnight and I'm a light sleeper. My watch doesn't feel hot in the morning, though.

Hopefully 5.0.2 is released soon and fixes it.
 
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rstark18

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Agghh, glad to see I'm not the only one! This has been happening for some time to me - definitely after the WatchOS 5.0.1 update. Once the watch reaches 100%, it will start "dinging" like when you first put it on the charger every few minutes... which is incredibly annoying when I'm charging it on my bedside overnight and I'm a light sleeper. My watch doesn't feel hot in the morning, though.

Hopefully 5.0.2 is released soon and fixes it.
I know it takes some time but if you have a little extra time let Apple know. They told me they were compiling cases with this issue. The more they get the sooner it will get fixed.
 

Capeto

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I know it takes some time but if you have a little extra time let Apple know. They told me they were compiling cases with this issue. The more they get the sooner it will get fixed.
Done, thank you for the suggestion!
 

Jason Honer

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Has anyone been getting an alert every few minutes after the watch has reached full charge? I started getting this after the 5.0.1 update. After spending a long time with apple support and removing all the variables (charger clean back etc.) they sent it to the engineering team and seemed to imply that it might be a 5.0.1 issue. The case is open but if others are having this issue then engineering wants to hear from you.
I have not seen this.
 

MacintoshDan

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Happening to me in my brand new S4 Nike cellular. Thought it has something to do with the apple charging dock I have not fitting the new watch. It was dinging repeatedly and was pretty warm, much warmer than any other watch I’ve taken off a charger. Not happy. Hopefully this didn’t affect my brand new watch.
 

rstark18

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Happening to me in my brand new S4 Nike cellular. Thought it has something to do with the apple charging dock I have not fitting the new watch. It was dinging repeatedly and was pretty warm, much warmer than any other watch I’ve taken off a charger. Not happy. Hopefully this didn’t affect my brand new watch.
Warm battery during the initial charge is normal but all night everyday can't be too good for the battery. Before this started happening my watch would always be cool to the touch in the morning.
 

Deguello

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I thought it was coming loose from my pad charger, but apparently that wasn't it. Ugh.

Surprising how such a small sound can sound so loud in the middle of the night.
 

MacintoshDan

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I laid the watch down on the dock instead of using it upright and it appears to be charging ok now. I think my issue is the that the dock doesn’t fit S4 44mm watches. There is a thread about it in the Apple Watch accessories forum. If that’s true I’m going to be a bit angry.
 

Scott G.

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Happening to me in my brand new S4 Nike cellular. Thought it has something to do with the apple charging dock I have not fitting the new watch. It was dinging repeatedly and was pretty warm, much warmer than any other watch I’ve taken off a charger. Not happy. Hopefully this didn’t affect my brand new watch.
I have a Belkin iPhone + Watch charging stand and the watch kept coming off that stand really warm. I switched to the charger that came with the watch and it comes off the charger cool now. Took like a day to do it, though, which was weird..
 

za9ra22

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My S4 also lights up and dings frequently during the night to report 100% charge. This is really annoying and there doesn't appear to be any way to stop it happening.
 

Deguello

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My S4 also lights up and dings frequently during the night to report 100% charge. This is really annoying and there doesn't appear to be any way to stop it happening.
Ive started taking it off the charger if it wakes me up once.
 

rstark18

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A quick update. I got a call back and they are still working on it. Definitely a 5.0.1 issue. They will have me load a special logging profile tommorow most likely.
 
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Lennyvalentin

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5.0.1 probably added the beeps as one of Apple's "features" to remind you to take the watch off the charger, so they don't over-charge, instead of admitting there may be a charging problem.
That's not a good way to run a successful business, so I doubt that's the intent.

Anecdotal datapoint: overnight-charged my Nike edition S4 for the first time last night, using my old plastic charging puck I got with my OG Sport Watch that I've used well over a thousand times by now. Put the watch on, it dinged, then - maybe because I set it to auto update to 5.01 overnight it dinged a second time some short time later. I hadn't fallen asleep, but was well on my way. A bit annoying! :p Only happened that one time though.

In the morning it was completely cool when I took it off the puck, and hadn't dinged any more either. My OG would sometimes be warm, sometimes cool, sometimes partially inbetween. It varied. I assume the same pattern will hold now as well.

Also let my S4 sip a bit of juice yesterday from my macbook, but that was only a small partial charge, using an original Apple charging cable I bought for travel purposes for my OG Sports watch over three years ago. Only made the standard ding when I put it on and then nothing more, although it charged for only like 10 minutes maybe and never reached close to full power.
 
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