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I don't get why he is making a fuss about standard convention that is used world wide.
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I don't get why he is making a fuss about standard convention that is used world wide.
I don't know what's worse - people getting the answer wrong or people getting the answer wrong and then arguing for a change in the rules of mathematics so they are right!
The answer's clearly 15 if you follow the established rules of mathematics: The rules are there to ensure consistency and if you follow them you get 15
The answer's clearly 15 if you follow the established rules of mathematics: The rules are there to ensure consistency and if you follow them you get 15
^^^ Yes. With no parenthesis in the original stated equation, what keeps it from being this?Pink∆Floyd;13828869 said:Add a parenthesis next time
(5+5+5-5+5+5-5+5)X0= or anything else? Rules say do the parenthesis first, but where are they? Is there a rule for that when they aren't given?
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parenthesis first, then exponents, then multiplication and division. You don't need parenthesis.
"I would like the idea to change so that the basic operations are definite and written down". and :"The idea that you follow PEMDAS excludes people who don't know the operational rule" are the funniest lines I've every read from someone who claims to be serious. The basic rules are definite and written down. There in every single basic math book in the world. And the second line is brilliant. We can't follow rules because some people don't know them? fantastic. I guess we can throw out spelling rules too since so many people I know are bad spellers and having rules excludes them from following the rules that they forgot.
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I'm not adding a rule - I'm saying that an operation has to operate within a defined set of 'visible' parameters.
The equation couldn't be written with ambiguity - IOWs I would make it a mandatory rule to write it as such:
(5 + 5 + 5) - 5 + (5 + 5) - 5 + (5 x 0) = 15
No one here would get the wrong answer IMO. And if one's goal is to produce the correct answer then the logic makes sense.
...but there are rules, and since there aren't any parenthesis, you follow the rules the way they are intended.
Emphasis added. Quoted for unintentional hilarity. Or extremely subtle sarcasm. Not sure which.
He's not that clever, is nosy, and is upset by the number 42, apparently.
Oh, and he's impatient too.
He's not that clever, is nosy, and is upset by the number 42, apparently.
Oh, and he's impatient too.
Nosy and impatient?
The poll is public, no?? Why?
And anyone deviating from your stated purpose for posting is rebuked, in some way.
Why not? Why wouldn't it be public? And who did I rebuke? Who deviated from any stated purpose? How does that make me impatient? What in the hell are you talking about?
Actually, I was home-schooled and 'dropped out' at 16. But, I tested at college level in every subject since I was 10..
I have to admit that the results of this poll are disturbing me a great deal.
This is very basic.
This is very basic.
Q would have to weigh in on that, with the percentage of polls that are open vs. those that are closed.
Oh, maybe this post, by you??
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I honestly have no idea what you are upset about. I've read your posts, you seemed to give more jokey answers then honest ones and your stuck on my one tongue in cheek post? Still don't understand why I'm nosy and impatient but whatever, I give up.
What I think is it's sad that 5th grade elementary school math didn't stick for most people answering the problem.
Haha--he would be wrong on that assumption--even some 59 year old retirees know the answer is 15.