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How do you know if your AppleTV is throttling or not?
I’m sure, like me, he sees no difference in his Apple TV’s response or performance. Even if there is some minute throttling, it doesn’t matter if you notice no difference in response or performance. A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
 
Not in my experience. Never a blip of overheating.

When anyone says “I’ve heard….’, ignore the comment.
I do own the current Apple TV by the way, the only reason I can't compare is because I didn't have the previous models. I just don't see why someone would say anything about heat performance unless it actually affected their usage.
 
Shrinking the mac mini to look like an Apple TV has one motive behind it: make it cheaper to build.

Have you viewed the iFixit Mac Mini Teardown?


I understand the sizing-expectations (macstadium, macminivault, et al.), but there's a lot of wasted space inside these units (space that doesn't relate to cooling, etc.).

AAPL could give us a card-playing-deck-sized Unit, if She so chose ;)

It's more about expectations and continuity, rather than effort expended in pursuit of profits.
 
$54 seems a little high though
It does, but I couldn't find anything else that was similar for what I needed.

It is of a decent quality. Machined aluminum, padding in the right spots, adjustable dividers, heavy enough that usual small devices won't tip it.
 
ugh, my thoughts exactly, imagine it's 'so gorgeously small and light' and moves around every time you plug something in or out. That would be absolutely terrible, would boil my piss that.
So instead they should keep it the same size with all that wasted space for the imaginary optical drive? The current Mac Mini is absurdly large and outdated. The AppleTV size would be amazing. Seems like some people have never have heard of cable ties. If a small size is a deterrent, it might be best to stick to a 2009 Mac Pro cheesegrater so it can't fall off your desk when fumbling around with cables.

If a computer doesn't have any expansion slots, Ithere's no reason for it to not be as small as possible if it has good thermal design. Imagine if Raspberry Pi owners were upset at how easy those fall off their desk.

I'm really looking forward to this tiny M4 Apple Intelligence powerhouse that will take up no space. I hope the rumors about the size are true because it seems too good for them to be.
 
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2030:

MacMini in usb c dongle, just connect to your display.
Majes me think of the Asus Vivostick…

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No, because the gap between the mini and the Studio is too large.

The Mac mini M2 Pro was a decent step towards something in-between entry-level and mid/high-end.

Apple is infamous for making the low-end and mid-tier products too low value and performance that those who just need a little more than budget/mid-tier are forced to go "Pro" even if their needs are not "Pro" but just more than budget/mid-tier.

Yes, that's Apple's business model, forcing the consumer up the value/$ ladder and offering peanuts for anyone who can't/won't pay up.

But the need for something between the Studio and mini is there, regardless of whether one doesn't want to or cannot pay for a Mac Studio or Mac Pro.
Well I was looking at the two earlier in the year and glad I didn't make the jump. Pricing out relatively higher spec Mac mini M2 Pro and a base level Mac Studio, I discovered that a M2 Max studio was a better value than a M2 Pro similarly upgraded. I have attached two screen shots. For the same price, the Studio is a much better value. More GPU cores, supports more monitors, more ports, active cooling and more encoders. The screen shots were taken today.
 

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Well I was looking at the two earlier in the year and glad I didn't make the jump. Pricing out relatively higher spec Mac mini M2 Pro and a base level Mac Studio, I discovered that a M2 Max studio was a better value than a M2 Pro similarly upgraded. I have attached two screen shots. For the same price, the Studio is a much better value. More GPU cores, supports more monitors, more ports, active cooling and more encoders. The screen shots were taken today.

Yep - Apple has done a masterful job at creating all the spec upgrades to carefully nudge you higher and higher up the product and price tiers
 
Yep - Apple has done a masterful job at creating all the spec upgrades to carefully nudge you higher and higher up the product and price tiers
True, but they were the same price though. Unless you wanted the smaller form factor, it would make sense to pay the same price for more features, no? I would definitely agree with you if there was a slight price difference as in the Mac Studio being more expensive than the Mini Pro.
 
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I'm debating getting an M2 Mini now while it has USB A, or worshipping our USB C overlords and waiting a week for the M4 model.

Screw the EUSSR and their innovation-killing mandate over USB C. It's a solution to a problem that didn't need solving, and we don't want or need unelected Communist dictators telling companies what they can or can not do.
 
True, but they were the same price though. Unless you wanted the smaller form factor, it would make sense to pay the same price for more features, no? I would definitely agree with you if there was a slight price difference as in the Mac Studio being more expensive than the Mini Pro.
I have a very specific use-case for a Mac, so depending on graphics performance in one very specific application, if it isn't great, then I'll probably get a top spec Mini, because while it has fewer GPU and CPU cores than the base Studio, it saves me $200 in absolute cost.

I tend to use only the basic apps on a Mac. I have an iPad that does everything I need outside of my work PC which is a gaming and software development power-house. Personal stuff doesn't need much - e-mail, web, word processor, and spreadsheet.

I really wish Apple would put macOS in an iPad format, but we all know that will never happen, even though it totally should.
 
Well I was looking at the two earlier in the year and glad I didn't make the jump. Pricing out relatively higher spec Mac mini M2 Pro and a base level Mac Studio, I discovered that a M2 Max studio was a better value than a M2 Pro similarly upgraded. I have attached two screen shots. For the same price, the Studio is a much better value. More GPU cores, supports more monitors, more ports, active cooling and more encoders. The screen shots were taken today.
Don't forget 10Gb Ethernet on the Studio vs 1Gb on the Mini. A lot of people gloss over this, but project out the current pace of bandwidth needs for another 2-5 years (and I know a lot of people who've kept their Mini far longer than that) and this starts to become a meaningful difference. Of course, Apple will let you upgrade the current mini to 10Gb...for another $100
 
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True, but they were the same price though. Unless you wanted the smaller form factor, it would make sense to pay the same price for more features, no? I would definitely agree with you if there was a slight price difference as in the Mac Studio being more expensive than the Mini Pro.
That particular situation seemed like a screw up by Apple
 
Well my wired Logitech speakers on my current iMac are going to recycling I guess...
There's a dongle for that!

I've got a feeling that once the new Mac Mini rolls out there's going to 'be a dongle' for a LOT of things.

P.S.: I, too, am using an iMac and am considering a switch to an M4Pro Mac Mini. The replacement monitor I pick might not have speakers, but I've got a set of (would you believe it? Logitech!) speakers and I'd like to continue to use them.
 
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Sounds like what you need is a Mac Studio, and not a Mini. There are absolutely use cases for micro computers, and just because yours doesn't seem to be one, doesn't me "we" don't need it.
OP was correct, sure there are cases for "micro" sized computing decides, but if it comes at the cost of throttling, something we've learned to live without since the release of the M-series chips (SoCs) then the size reduction will have been at a cost many mini buyers are unwilling to pay.
 
Current case was designed to house a SuperDrive… I’m curious what new form factor might be introduced. Mac Studio automatically gets a more clearly defined place in the lineup.
oh so they're gonna hobble the Mac Mini Pro to improve the market segmentation of the Studio? Amazing, how very Tim Cook.
 
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