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You don't have a need to have information instantly backed up, accessible on multiple devices at all times and places, without the cost of spending 5 minutes a day waiting for it to happen. That's fine! Some of us do have those needs, and for us, thank god there are better ways to do it than the old fashioned way.

5 mins? You mean less then 2 mins and I have 3 devices work just fine. Also what you called "old fashioned" is SAFER and does not need to go online to do it...
 
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5 mins? You mean less then 2 mins and I have 3 devices work just fine. Also what you called "old fashioned" is SAVER and does not need to go online to do it...

It's "safer" not saver.

Yes, I'm sorry, but for some people, saving that much time every single day, in addition to having devices synced throughout the day at all times, is worth real money. Getting it free is just a bonus. Your time isn't worth the money, and there's nothing wrong with that. Someday you may decide that it is worth it, or you may continue to think that the reduction in security, however small, is not worth it. I guess you have your Mac locked in a safe, and a security guard patrolling your house?

Gmail is not inherently insecure, if you don't click on phishing links and you have a reasonable password, you have nothing to worry about. I assume that someone as concerned with security as you are could manage to protect his Gmail account pretty well.

Where I live, the requirement to use internet to make my syncing happen is not a downside. It is for you. If your access to internet is not as reliable as some peoples', you might not agree with syncing over the internet. That's OK.

I actually use an Exchange account instead of Gmail, which offer basically the same features but slightly better performance and syncing for me. It costs me 30 cents a day. And it's worth it, so well worth it I can't even tell you. If they charged me 3 times what they do, I still would do it in an instant.

Not for you, and that's OK. Remember... it's OK if your needs are less than some others'. It's OK buddy....
 
Well if you think about it what do you need to back up on your phone?
Contacts -- Nope stored elsewhere (my case google)
Calandar -- Again somehere else (Google)
Email -- Stored elsewhere so non issue (Google)
SMS-- Ok you might loose those but to me a non issue
Music -- Chances are on your computer. new stuff from iTunes Back it up
App-- Yeah you should back those up

I know on my iPod it only connects to my computer on an update and even then it is iffy if I had not really bought anything recently.
I agree completely - except that I see absolutely no reason to back up apps either. To me a backup is only needed for an emergency - like if your phone doesn't work and you have to restore & even when I found myself in that situation, I would like to start out fresh and would set my phone up as new and just re-download the apps on the device. It's a good opportunity to start fresh & have done exactly that when jailbreaking a couple times over the years.

Songs or movies are a different story since you can't (until iCloud) re-dowload them - but I have never bought a movie on my IOS devices (rental, yes) and can count on one hand the songs I have purchase on my devices. Not sure about books since I use the Kindle app for that & can re-download if necessary. There is something to be said for backing up the *settings* or *documents* associates with an App but for me the settings are relatively easy to recreate and documents are usually retrievable via a sent email etc.


Now will someone please explain why not backing up my devices is SO risky/foolish?
 
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ECUpirate44 said:
This is so true. I know plenty of people who just buy all of their apps on the device and never backup.

My wife has never plugged her iPhone into the computer. It only gets synced when I upgrade her OS while she isn't looking.

Lol. I wait for my wife to fall asleep and then I hijack her iPhone for backup and sync... Probably every couple of weeks or so. I think she stresses less not knowing about it.

And she's no idiot... She's a lot smarter than I am in many ways--she just has no interest in tech stuff. That's what I'm for, I guess.
 
same with my wife, sync her phone once every few months for an OS upgrade and to back up her photos. need to restore as new soon because her gmail is flaky but that's probably because i restored her iphone 4 from her 3G backup

the whole sync thing probably comes from all the ex Palm guys apple hired to build the original iphone
 
A lot of people just don't care what OS is on their phone, it's just a tool for them, not a lifestyle/hobby/obsession as it is for most of us on this board and other boards like it. I wouldn't call them "stupid", is just people with other interest. They would probably find it amusing that we actively participate in forums about cell phones.
 
Same. I've had a few people replace their phone with a newer model and then call me to ask how they move their data over.

iCloud solves a real problem. People don't want to do anything. They want it to "just work".

And Apple makes trillions by delivering solutions that allow the consumer to do nothing but enjoy their UX.
 
Probably a lot of people like my wife.

She was complaining that she was embarassed by her phone because everyone else she ran into in her business had a smart phone.

So moved her to the front of the pack and got her an iPhone 4.

Now she's mad because it has tons of functions that she doesn't want. :rolleyes: I can't win.

I did sync it initially but she never does. Not really a problem since she only uses it for talking and texting, so nothing to back up really. (She has a freaky memory for phone numbers and addresses so apparently doesn't need a contact list even though she deals with hundreds of clients, doctors, attorneys, adjusters, etc.)
 
A lot of people just don't care what OS is on their phone, it's just a tool for them, not a lifestyle/hobby/obsession as it is for most of us on this board and other boards like it.

Absolutely correct. When was the last time the same people in this forum who are ridiculing those who have never updated the software updated the firmware on their television, DVD player, router, car ECU, receiver etc.

All that is second nature to me but most of the time people don't bother. If something is just working that's all they want.

If iTunes didn't do all the work I expect a lot of people on this forum wouldn't update their software either.
 
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my favorites last week:

"Did u finally get iOS 4.3?"
- No, i have an iPhone

"Did u finally get Windows 7?"
- No i have Office 2003 i think

I got a new phone
"Android?"
- Let me check, no the label says Samsung

"Do u have a wifi cable?"

:D Those were great, very funny! I really liked the wifi cable.
 
True. I was fixing my friend's iPhone 3GS which she never backed up unless she had to update. Bye, all the useful data.
 
True. I was fixing my friend's iPhone 3GS which she never backed up unless she had to update. Bye, all the useful data.

What useful data exactly? No one has explained to me exactly what they are are backing up that isn't backed up elsewhere already.
 
The problem arises when you consider that people will need to sync/upgrade the device before they have access to iCloud... I hope there are a lot of PR men running around in Cupertino.
 
I sync my iPhone regularly, but not because I actually have a need to. It's more a matter of convenience. I like having my iPhone near my computer when I'm home for easy access, and reaching for the outlet to plug the thing in is quite a bit more of a pain. But yah, I have no need to sync. I only care when there's an iOS update available. I think this PC-Free thing is going to be pretty amazing, especially after most people have bought new iPhones, since many people probably wont get the latest version of iOS till they do. :p
 
I guess most people don't have important stuff on their phones. At least I don't have anything that I'd miss. Contacts have been stored in the adressbook on my computer since well before I got my iPhone so they are not lost if my phone is stolen or breaks.

As for being lazy with updates, I won't update to iOS 5 anyway since I don't want all my stuff to be sent to Apple. In this day and age when you can update so many devices around your house I'm not surprised most people don't bother, there are better things to to than keeping everything constantly up to date.
 
I guess most people don't have important stuff on their phones. At least I don't have anything that I'd miss. Contacts have been stored in the adressbook on my computer since well before I got my iPhone so they are not lost if my phone is stolen or breaks.

As for being lazy with updates, I won't update to iOS 5 anyway since I don't want all my stuff to be sent to Apple. In this day and age when you can update so many devices around your house I'm not surprised most people don't bother, there are better things to to than keeping everything constantly up to date.

You can turn off/not sign up for iCloud. Nothing has to be sent to Apple.
 
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