50% of iPhones Brought to Genius Bar Have Never Been Synced

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manu chao said:

Sure they do. Are you under the (mistaken) impression that a significant proportion of the population backs up their computer? Because they don't.

I am under the impression that a significant proportion of the population understands the concept of malware and hacking into a computer and the concept of security updates.
But maybe I am wrong.


lol i know plenty of people including my mother who dont know what "update" even means and lots of ppl at my college always click the antivir warning away bc they cant be bothered updating. there r also those who have a billion toolbars installed
 
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WiiDSmoker said:
I sync everyday to add new podcast from iTunes....but I would agree that 50% is actually too low. Most people simply do not sync. And why should they? No phone before this has ever had to do it.

You should look up podcaster. It will change your life, if that's the only reason you sync.
 
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yetanotherdave said:
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I'm another daily podcast listener. This is the #1 reason I sync my iPhone. I would probably do it weekly otherwise, or just whenever I remember (and I work in IT, specifically backups and data retention!). If icloud/wifi syncing also updates my podcasts that'd be nice. Shouldn't even need the computer on for that.

Podcaster. Automatically updates and downloads at your timetable and when on wifi only if you prefer. It's amazing.
 
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manu chao said:

Sure they do. Are you under the (mistaken) impression that a significant proportion of the population backs up their computer? Because they don't.

I am under the impression that a significant proportion of the population understands the concept of malware and hacking into a computer and the concept of security updates.
But maybe I am wrong.


You're definitely wrong. Talk to some normal people someday and you'll see.
 
people are stupid (some of them).
they buy an expensive cellphone just for fashion, at least here in Italy, for what i've seen.
they don't care about backup, many don't even know what's a backup, they use it just for caling, messaging, taking crappy photos to their friends/dogs and MMSing them.
hey, didn't you know? it just work! wow, it's magic!

how sad..
 
I'm still on 3.1.2 on my 3GS, and I synced it maybe a year or so ago. Once I jailbroke it, and got it to do exactly what I wanted it to do, it's been fine on its own ever since. No need to sync, not even for music, since I use Audiogalaxy to play my newer music "in the cloud" or whatever, rather than what's in the iPod section.

The only thing it's starting to need is a new battery.
 
I never backup. I've probably plugged my iPad into a computer a total of 5 times and I had iPad 1 and 2
 
I'm sorry but those 50% are idiots and don't deserve a smart phone. They are probably the same people that type the word "google" into the google search area of a web browser.

Not to be too disrespectful but I'm sure you've done plenty of idiotic things in your days on Earth. You just don't equate them that way because they aren't important to you, much like owning in iPhone is to many folks. As far as them deserving to own a smartphone, guys like Steve Jobs are banking on them and I guarantee welcoming them with open arms. One of the reasons OSX and iOS are so simple to use no doubt!

I know plenty of people who could care less about anything their phone does beyond calls, texts, browsing, email, and the occasional game. I'm certain many iPhones are bought because they are the "IT" phone to have and thats enough for most people!

I however am anal about checking for updates to apps and iOS, etc. To each their own!
 
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So since iMessage keep track of conversations across devices, does that mean that Text Messages will also be backed up into the cloud? That would be fantastic!

do not believe so.

I'm sorry but those 50% are idiots and don't deserve a smart phone. They are probably the same people that type the word "google" into the google search area of a web browser.

Well if you think about it what do you need to back up on your phone?
Contacts -- Nope stored elsewhere (my case google)
Calandar -- Again somehere else (Google)
Email -- Stored elsewhere so non issue (Google)
SMS-- Ok you might loose those but to me a non issue
Music -- Chances are on your computer. new stuff from iTunes Back it up
App-- Yeah you should back those up

I know on my iPod it only connects to my computer on an update and even then it is iffy if I had not really bought anything recently.
 
I apologize if this is a dumb question, but I'm wondering about iCloud. Will it sync your podcasts to your iPhone automatically? Is it an option or setting?

I'm just now trying to understand what iCloud actually does & doesn't do.
 
I don't see the point of backing up an iPhone, as it doesn't really hold valuable data other than contacts. People who don't sync it probably don't use iCal or anything like that either.

I understand the ones who don't sync it: why should you plug in your mobile phone to your computer? Sure, for its most valuable features, you have to sync it, but many people, mostly older people, only want to use it as a phone and to text, and maybe use the built-in apps and download some new ones rarely. Maybe they don't even use a computer on a regular basis, or they don't want to figure out how to use iTunes.

I agree that iTunes is a pain to use if you're on a PC: you're used to Windows Media Player, and you don't want to switch to a buggy and slow application like iTunes for PC (iTunes on Mac is fine, but the PC port is horrible).

And if you don't use iTunes, then you can't sync anything basically. I think this is one of the biggest causes here.
 
Apple makes their devices so mind-numbingly simple that cats and 3 year-olds can use them, so why are we surprised that people use them as if they have the mentality of a cat or a 3 year-old?

Another corollary of this news; over 50% of iPhone owners couldn't care less what Steve Jobs and Co say during their keynotes (it's just a dog and pony show for the media and shareholders).
 
Not that surprised. My friend's iPhone 3G is still running on 2.x I believe. *edit* he does still sync it ... but 2.x ?!?!?

People just don't want to bother updating, or don't know they're supposed to. "What, I have to UPDATE this? How's this better than having a PC??"

Awesome avatar by the way, Stella :)
 
Apple makes their devices so mind-numbingly simple that cats and 3 year-olds can use them, so why are we surprised that people use them as if they have the mentality of a cat or a 3 year-old?

Another corollary of this news; over 50% of iPhone owners couldn't care less what Steve Jobs and Co say during their keynotes (it's just a dog and pony show for the media and shareholders).

i actually think it's the other way around. steve doesn't care if regular consumers watch his keynote, he just needs to impress the media with his charm and catchphrase "it just works". then the media will blow it up and consumers will buy it. apple uses the press a lot to sell its products, like a hundreds of tech blogs focusing on apple rumors.
whatever consumer thinks, steve jobs is a genius and he makes a lot of money at :apple: markups profits.
 
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just yesterday my mom asked me where the reboot button on her keyboard is, thats all i gotta say xD

howevee i dont backup either, its just annoying and taking too long. everything is saved on my hdd anyway. im anal about updates tho
 
That's because Apple has jumped into the bandwagon of subsidising their phones, so now even a person more retarded than the retards to whom (due to it's simplicity of use) it is aimed at also can have access to it.
 
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CaptainCannabis said:
That's because Apple has jumped into the bandwagon of subsidising their phones, so now even a person more retarded than the retards to whom (due to it's simplicity of use) it is aimed at also can have access to it.

so ur saying only rich people know how to backup while a broke IT student has no clue? that logic doesnt make sense at all
 
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Judging by the sheer amount of spam that is sent to me (unknowingly) by people I know on Facebook, whose computers contract viruses without their knowledge. I'd say people's average knowledge of how computers work is lower than it should be.

It seems to be something we'd have given higher priority to in modern education.
 
then the media will blow it up and consumers will buy it.
Either Steve Jobs really has a Reality Distortion Field or any other company could just add 'It just works' to their presentations and could be as successful as Apple.

Which one is it: does Jobs have a RDF or could others be as successful by just adding 'It just works'?

Remember the iPod HiFi? According to your theory, Jobs forgot to switch on his RDF when he presented it.

Judging by the sheer amount of spam that is sent to me (unknowingly) by people I know on Facebook, whose computers contract viruses without their knowledge. I'd say people's average knowledge of how computers work is lower than it should be.
Given that that has happened to me maybe twice in the last ten years, I guess I know different kinds of people (or maybe the people I know are neither too young nor too old).
 
don't think 5GB is enough space especially if you have Backups to iCloud enabled... as I turned on on my iPhone & iPad and within minutes already over my 5GB quota... cause each backup is over 3GB's....
Hopefully, iOS 5 will let you choose what to backup. On the current beta version, only options available are "Back Up to iCloud" on/off toggle, "Buy More Storage" (which doesn't let you buy yet), and "Manage Storage" (points to same "Buy More Storage" screen).

I don't need to backup camera roll, just device settings, app data, home screen and app organization, and text and MMS messages.
 
Hopefully, iOS 5 will let you choose what to backup. On the current beta version, only options available are "Back Up to iCloud" on/off toggle, "Buy More Storage" (which doesn't let you buy yet), and "Manage Storage" (points to same "Buy More Storage" screen).

I don't need to backup camera roll, just device settings, app data, home screen and app organization, and text and MMS messages.

From the "Manage Storage" screen you can select your device and select specific apps to sync, including camera roll.
 
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