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Again, that's my point. Why is it automatically a negative towards Apple? Could there not be extenuating circumstances that made them target this app over any other? Why are they automatically labeled hypocritical? Especially when they said they received complaints about child porn on the app?

Are you entitled to your opinion? Yes. I'm entitled to mine. I'm not trying to convince anyone - just posting my opinion and how I see this. There could be a million and one reasons behind what happened. We could start randomly throwing out scenarios if you really want to waste some time. But I've got some work to do ;)
 
I respect the fact that they are trying to stand for something, but with all the hypocrisy, it has become comical at best. They allow nudity in their R rated movies that are availablef or rent on iTunes, correct? What is the difference?
 
Laughing my ass off at you guys not knowing what Grindr is.
Oh Tumblr oooh watch out guys that app's sooo explicit.
 
Oh. How? Do you know to access adult content on 500px you have to go to the website (not app) and change your settings?

And 500px - the company doesn't own the photos. The users do. The app is a portal.

In fact it's easier to find porn via safari "out of the box" then it is 500px.

It's a matter of a single, privately controlled source of content (regardless of whether it's user sourced or not) vs. unmanaged content (the entirety of the web).

If someone reported child porn on Instagram, Flickr, etc., it would (or let's say it should) fall under the same consideration.

Like you already point out, there's some process and procedure considerations (about exposure, content auditing, etc.) that are probably very tricky, and 500PX just got caught up in dealing with it.

Funny enough, one of my startups is dealing with image content, and we've just started working through all the legal copy to understand this very same issue (our legal already has a headache over it :D )
 
So their justification for this is that an app should be pulled if it can retrieve data from online that could be deemed adult content?

Let me just make it easier for them and give them a list of other apps that can do this as well, so that Apple can more easily remove them.

Twitter
Facebook
Safari
iTunes (have you SEEN some of those album covers! :mad: )
YouTube

I could go on and on... Jeez Apple... get on your game... I DON'T WANT ALL THIS SMUT ON MY IPHONE!!!

/sarcasm
 
I have a pepper grinder at home?....is it something spicy perhaps?
Yeah! And you can like find people to help you grind all the pepper! So convenient.
But for real reading this thread is like watching a bunch of Amnish men upset the village hussy has shown her ankle not knowing anything about Las Vegas
 
Are you entitled to your opinion? Yes. I'm entitled to mine. I'm not trying to convince anyone - just posting my opinion and how I see this. There could be a million and one reasons behind what happened. We could start randomly throwing out scenarios if you really want to waste some time. But I've got some work to do ;)

Of course you are entitled. I was just asking what bought you to that opinion given what we know (and don't know). But, ok if you consider explaining yourself a waste of time, then ok, I will not bother you anymore.
 
Apple does not sell Safari in the Apple store. Apple sells Safari bundled with iDevices.

But you knew that already.

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You and Rogifan are pretending in the same manner. I'm not sure what that says about you two. Probably nothing.

Apple sells Safari. The POS is not the App Store. Instead, people buy Safari at Wall Mart, bundled into their iPurchase.

Uh YEAH, by your logic, Apple also sells, Calendar, Settings, Contacts, Messages, Weather, Maps, Mail, Music, Camera and Photos.

Nice try on the cleanup, says a lot about you. ;)
 
They can't pull every app that could possibly show nudity, instagram, Flickr and many others would disappear too.

Instagram deletes accounts that post nudes and those that are deemed "sexual," even if there is no nudity.

500px's terms of service specifically prohibit uploading "pornography;" flickr has no such prohibition.

You can't access 500px on Apple store computers, either. Maybe Apple is not opposed to nudity but to the tacky soft porn on 500px. :)

So, artistic nudity = soft porn? What would you call the gangbang photos and genital close-ups that proliferate on flickr.

Totally agree with you, flickr is full of nude pics, sometimes pretty disgusting.

Yup. Plus, flickr, for the sake of promoting file size over image quality, brutally-reduces the quality of images posted to their site, even as a pro member. 500px handles image resizing much more gently.

A search for "dani olivier" in the app store will turn up bunch of books with nothing but nude photography, none of which have the slightest artistic value.
Or just go here:
Photo de Nu

aaah so this is why people bother with these apps...


i always wondered why sharing on facebook or twitter wasn't enough for many people.

Perhaps, as a photographer, whose work does include art nudes, I want to manage my various media presences, while away from my computer… or GASP show potential clients and collaborators the work I've done in the past, in a slick, easy-to-use app.

What if you are a professional photographer who owns an iPhone and happens to take/view/participate in classy nude photography?

Apple doesn't need to be the cops here. Jeez.

Or an iPad -- I hear those are useful for photo-making people, too.

Don't even try it. Any professional photographer that needs nude photos for his/her career isn't rely sorely on their personal communication device to provide such material.

The annoyed responses from the people on here wreak of the horny teen that relied on his/her phone to enjoy naked photos so they can hide it from their parents.

First, when I'm not within range of a WiFi network, I think it's entirely reasonable that I should be able to use my iPhone or my iPad to use my media in any way that I see fit, especially if that helps earn me new clients or express ideas to potential collaborators.

What business is it of you (or Apple) if my work includes artistic nudity? And the thematic medium should certainly not be the basis for judging whether or not art has merit -- particularly if you've never laid eyes on the artwork.

Second, wreak = cause; reek = stink.

I'm a photographer on 500px, and my portfolio has nudity in it.

This idea of protecting someone from artistic expressions in this area is a little ridiculous. People can make their own choices about what they see and what they don't.

500px puts a warning on every image that is even remotely 'adult' (even implied nudity) and you have to click through that to see the image. The only exception to this is when a photographer like me uses 500px for a hosting site that links directly via your domain (and effectively suppresses the 500px logic and allows the photographer to present their photos as they like).

I recall buying a censored fashion magazine in the app store - which I thought was pretty stupid, and I asked for my money back.

This is pretty silly stuff.

Precisely.

It's a matter of a single, privately controlled source of content (regardless of whether it's user sourced or not) vs. unmanaged content (the entirety of the web).

If someone reported child porn on Instagram, Flickr, etc., it would (or let's say it should) fall under the same consideration.

Like you already point out, there's some process and procedure considerations (about exposure, content auditing, etc.) that are probably very tricky, and 500PX just got caught up in dealing with it.

Funny enough, one of my startups is dealing with image content, and we've just started working through all the legal copy to understand this very same issue (our legal already has a headache over it :D )

There is child porn on Flickr -- it doesn't show up all that frequently, but when it does, I've reported it. (Whether the staff acts on the report is another matter, entirely.)

I've never seen anything nearly as raunchy on 500px as I come across daily on Flickr (people seem to think that just because you make art nudes, that you must want a close-up view of their sex lives and they bombard my flickrmail with it) -- there's some seriously revolting content on flickr, that's allowed by the ToS, but is prohibited on 500px.
 
Absolutely pathetic. Apple's righteous indignation makes me sick.

Open Safari, type nude pics into the search bar and see what happens.

Parents should police their kids not Apple.

Well then you shouldn't be upset since you already know an easy work-around., just sayin'.;)
 
there's some seriously revolting content on flickr, that's allowed by the ToS, but is prohibited on 500px.

Interesting (er, not the revolting content :) ), and that's exactly what I meant by my "would/should be pulled". Is the content distributed to the mobile device the exact same as the web UI? Just wondering if there's some filter in place, or if that kind of content is private/protected only, so in either app or web, that prevents violation of the [Apple] TOS?
 
First, when I'm not within range of a WiFi network, I think it's entirely reasonable that I should be able to use my iPhone or my iPad to use my media in any way that I see fit, especially if that helps earn me new clients or express ideas to potential collaborators.

What business is it of you (or Apple) if my work includes artistic nudity? And the thematic medium should certainly not be the basis for judging whether or not art has merit -- particularly if you've never laid eyes on the artwork.

Uh you are coming at me in a very wrong way. Maybe you should go back and re-read my post. That would help you greatly. I never said pro photographers shouldn't be using personal devices to retrieve nude art for their work, I said any pro photographer would not rely sorely on a personal device as a source to retrieve their work. Work is work, I wasn't putting down pro photographers in regards to this news article. Take your defenses down a bit. :p
For you to say "what business is it of yours" makes zero sense.

I asked this question earlier and the person didn't respond, and knowingly because they couldn't answer it and you may not either. What exactly did you pro photographers do all the years before all this smartphone madness went viral in regards to getting your needed nude materials? I'm certain those resources are still available, or are those resources now just telling you, "Get it off your iPhone". And poor you about the lack of a wifi network, professionals didn't have these luxuries back in the day and their business was successful just the same. :rolleyes:
 
You simply switch to Android.

And given the latest stats, that is happening more and more often, all over the world.

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Actually the latest stats ( at least here in the US), are showing the opposite is happening.

Nude photos of 16 year old girls are NOT illegal unless other factors are present.

Nudity != pornography.

Pornographic photos of 16 year old girls are illegal whether they are nude or fully clothed.

So it's okay if I take nude photos of your 16 year old and post them, as long as it's done in the name of art ? :rolleyes:

Aww snap!

Right? What is it with people, anyway? It's okay to look at psychological terror / torture / mutilation movies like any one of the half-dozen Saw movies, but two adults consentually intimate with each other? For shame!

Image

Not really.

But that's my point, if those apps remain there, why is the automatic assumption just Apple hates nudity and is trying to be the moral police?

Because that's the quick and easy way of today's society. No thought process, just shoot off your mouth. And don't disagree, or else you're labeled some kind of hater.
 
Please elaborate. He stated nude does not equal pornographic, and pornographic pics of 16 year olds are illegal whether nude or not. So what about the nude non-pornographic pics of 16 year olds ?

Ask him to elaborate. I merely stated that he never said YOU could "take nude photos of your 16 year old and post them, as long as it's done in the name of art ? "
 
Ask him to elaborate. I merely stated that he never said YOU could "take nude photos of your 16 year old and post them, as long as it's done in the name of art ? "

Okay, now I understand. I was simply asking him, based on his ideology, if it was alright if nude pics were taken and posted of his 16 year old son or daughter.
 
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I didn't know Safari was for sale at the App Store. How much does it cost? Does it offer In-App purchases? :D

Not on the App Store. But in every Apple Store. Bundled together with a Macintosh computer. Plus there is a Windows version available from Apple's website, but not in the App Store, which costs exactly as much as 500px.
 
Why this moral panic over nudity? I genuinely don't get it. Kids can buy games in which they roll play stealing cars and killing people, yet they can't see a woman's nipples?? What kind of world are we living in? I guess one where theft and murder are good and nature is bad.

Now, as a footnote, let's see if the moderators allow the word NIPPLES here!

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Why this moral panic over nudity? I genuinely don't get it. Kids can buy games in which they roll play stealing cars and killing people, yet they can't see a woman's nipples?? What kind of world are we living in? I guess one where theft and murder are good and nature is bad.

Now, as a footnote, let's see if the moderators allow the word NIPPLES here!

Hallelujah. But I'm sure there's an inbred god fearing Texan dying to mess with this comment. You know who you are.
 
Absolutely pathetic. Apple's righteous indignation makes me sick.

Open Safari, type nude pics into the search bar and see what happens.

Parents should police their kids not Apple.

Apple is not policing your kids, its policing their iOS and good for them.
If you want your kids to browse nude or erotic pics on iOS apps, go ahead and get a different platform. Safari does not show nude pics if you don't specifically look for them. It's a big difference. That's what safari was made for - to show you things that you look for and NOT things that you don't look for.
 
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