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Zune was getting <1% market share while iPod was getting 75%.

So people are using the Zune? Not exactly.

I can give you at least 3 examples of people I know still using them. No, they didn't sell as well, but they did sell. Competition is good for the market and for the consumer. iPod capacities haven't exactly gone up a lot since Zune stopped selling.
 
I do think there is a halo effect with Apple products. I got my first mac 6 years ago and liked it so much thought to try out the iphone, the ipod touch, Apple TV, and get another MBP.

So, according to the trolls, basement nerds, and iHaters something like half of America are nothing more than mindless "iSheep" who will buy anything "crApple" puts out? :D

I can't wait till this hits C|net. The rage will be overwhelming.
 
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It may be a tipical sample size for this type of surveys, but I don't believe it provides a very accurate picture. 836 people interviewed out of 300 million in the USA? I'll say that's far from target.

You would probably be very surprised at how small a sample you need in order to get good results. Most online polls that quote a margin of error of only a couple of percent don't have many more respondents than that, and it's generally accepted that samples much higher than that are not worth it.

In addition, once you get to samples around this level, the population size really becomes irrelevant.

Also, if the pollster has done their job correctly the they should adjust their results for demographic factors.

If this poll is inaccurate, it is far more likely to be due to incorrect recall (people not remembering now many products they own, or not realising they are Apple products), than due to sample size.
 
Like you, I also flunked out of high school. I agree with you that one would definitely need at least 200 million in a poll to get legit numbers.

That's ridiculous. No one could ever do a poll if that were true. I was a Products Research Engineer for P&G in the '90s and performed consumer research testing for Bounty and Olay Cosmetics. A typical testing panel would be about 500—1,000 women to gauge how the entire US women would feel about a product. It's amazing how few people you need to accurately statistically analyze a large population. How many people do you know with a Nielson ratings box on their tv? I don't know any.

P.S. Put me down for 10 devices
 
Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired, since I said *or* Zunes, and I was implying actual old mp3 players, not a year or two.

I don't see *or* Zunes in your post. I see old Zunes. Did you edit after I quoted and replied to you ?

EDIT : checked your post again, there's not even the word *or* in there... my reading comprehension is fine.
 
In 2001 I was first introduced to my first computer with the Power 6500. I was a Graphics Artist and was told Macintosh is the way to go for computer graphics. A few years later I got a MacMini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. It's now 2012 and believe it or not, I'm STILL using my MacMini! :D It has been a pleasure to use all these years cause I like my electronics compact and the convenience of updating the software (OS 10.6.8, now) has kept my MacMini running so smoothly. Of course this lead me to look at other Apple products, so in addition I've since added an Apple keyboard, MagicMouse, AirportExtreme, iPod Nano, iPad, and an iPhone4S (replaced my iPhone3G) :D I am now looking forward to possibly upgrading to an iMac and the new iPad in the near future! :rolleyes:

Oh, I convinced my sister just how good and reliable Apple products are…she bought a MacBook Pro and just this year she acquired an iPad2 and an iPhone4S. Needless to say, we are both completely satisfied with our Apple products and can't wait to see what the next generation of gadgets will bring!! :D:apple::D
 
Can't the same thing be said for just about any product costing more than a few bucks?

Actually, no. There's an old adage (I think Soviet in origin) that the well-to-do can afford to buy cheap products, but they're the only ones who don't *have to*.

It's usually told in the form of a man complaining that his cheap boots wear out quickly. He'd like to buy better boots, but they cost too much for him to afford, so he's stuck buying the cheaper ones which wear out faster, to the point that, over time, he's spending significantly *more* on boots than he would if he could just afford the decent pair. (Can't find a good link to it ATM.)

Anyway, the short of it is:
If you have enough money, you can afford to buy higher quality goods, which will last longer/perform better/etc. If you can't, you're usually stuck buying cheaper goods which don't last as long/perform as well/etc.
 
Vermont - where households are all above average

Gee, we own, hmm... like 27 Apple products in our household. I guess we're just above average. :)

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you that one would definitely need at least 200 million in a poll to get legit numbers.

Only if you don't know how to do statistics.

To get legit numbers you merely need to do a statistically significant sample set of a representative cross section of the group in question. This is very easy to do with relatively small numbers.
 
So, lets see...

iPad (1st Gen)
iPhone 4 (AT&T)
iMac 27" Pre-Thunderbolt
Time Capsule
MacBook Air Current Gen 11" Maxed Out

And a PILE of Apple accessories (Wireless keyboards, mice, trackpads, chargers, docks,etc).

Adding up all I have owned and sold to get to this point, I have had dozens of apple devices across all their platforms, starting with an AppleIIe
 
love to see the evolution

I've personally enjoyed watching the employees of the AV company I've been working with for the last 11+years gradually go mac. When I first met them, they were all pc and all the computers they provided for graphics operation (powerpoints) were pcs. The guys were all the typical "I'll never buy a Mac" types with all their arguments about how they can build a better pc that's much cheaper, blah blah. Then one got a mac, the owners now have macs, a sound guy uses a mac for audio playback, then another, then they got iPhones, and iPads, then they replaced the dvd players and pc-based Turbo video players with Mac Pros and Playback Pro software. Then they got iMacs with Bootcamp for Windows instead of pc laptops for running slide presentations. More and more clients are using Keynote for their company presentations. Now I use macs to feed LED walls cool videos and graphics. I LUV it! :D
 
“It's a fantastic business model — the more of our products you own, the more likely you are to buy more,” says Jay Campbell[...]

Yep.

“Planned obsolescence has always been a part of the technology industries sales model, but Apple has taken it to a whole new level.”

Doh! Why are these guys always looking for some scummy angle?

The more Apple products I own, the more likely I'm to buy not because of planned obsolescence (hell, my iBook G4 is still humming along doing its thing to this day) but because of quality. Can't tell you all how many times I've bought some tech product only to feel buyer's remorse afterward because it just failed to live up to expectations. Haven't experienced that with an Apple product in ages.
 
This makes me laugh. In the last 6 years I've gone from avoiding Apple products to a fanatic. My family of 4 has 1 iPod, 3 Nanos, 1 iTouch, 4 iPhone 4/4S, 2 Apple TVs, 2 iPads (1st and 3rd gen), and 1 Mac.

I'm off the charts with 14 products.
 
Well Apple has been around for a while.

And frankly some a quite cheap. Its like most households have a sony product... stats mean very little. Its the manipulation of them that is the art form
 
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