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Thank you very much for this topic, really helpful.

I received my base M5 MacBook Air yesterday, but was surprised to find out my LG 40WP95C-W doesn't support my preferred 3840x1680 HiDPI layout, even though it worked perfectly on my M1 Pro and M2 Pro machines.

The biggest reason I went for the base M5 this time is Apple removed the previous hardware limitation on rendering pixel width (capped at 6016 pixels) with M4. But unfortunately there still appears to be a software enforced limit that prevents higher HiDPI modes unless the system detects a sufficiently demanding display.

To summarize:

  • Apple engineers seem to believe it's a good idea to allocate display rendering resources conservatively, likely to preserve bandwidth for potential second external display.
  • On base M4/M5, the initial rendering width is capped at 6016 pixels (3008 HiDPI).
  • On M4/M5 Pro and Max, the limit is higher, 6720 pixels (3360 HiDPI).
  • This allocation can increase only if macOS determines no additional displays can be connected.
  • Base M4/M5 can drive only one external display at 8K@60Hz, 5K@120Hz, or 4K@240Hz. This likely defines the threshold for "high-demand" detection.

I have also a 4K@240Hz display, and on the M5, 3840x2160 runs in standard DPI mode. This is understandable since it's also the native resolution, and macOS may skip HiDPI in such cases.

Therefore, the only way to trigger higher rendering width on base M4/M5 is by connecting either an 8K@60Hz or 5K@120Hz display. This explains why the Dell U4025QW works while the LG 40WP95C-W does not.

While I disagree with this logic, it does make sense when the full context is considered.

Now, a few questions out of curiosity:

  • LG's new 40U990A-W supports 5120×2160@120Hz. Has anyone tested whether this enables 3840x1680 HiDPI on base M4/M5?
  • Apple's new Studio Display XDR runs 5K@120Hz. Would it support 3840+ HiDPI?
  • For M4/M5 Pro and Max, since they can support two 5K@120Hz displays, what triggers the system to allocate higher rendering width when only one display is connected? Does macOS still enable 3840+ HiDPI even if a second high-demand display is theoretically possible? Maybe you are never going to have that option, because the chip is too powerful.
 
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While I disagree with this logic, it does make sense when the full context is considered.
What make sense is that Apple doesn’t care about your non-Apple monitors. If they did, they would let you configure this. Ask us how we want to configure our monitor and if we plug in a new one, let us reconfigure it if there isn’t enough resources to automatically support it. Not hard, but they are in the business of selling Apple monitors and Apple laptops, not LG monitors.
 
I have also a 4K@240Hz display, and on the M5, 3840x2160 runs in standard DPI mode. This is understandable since it's also the native resolution, and macOS may skip HiDPI in such cases.

That sounds borked. I sometimes get that with my M1 Air. It is a glitch. Firing up BetterDisplay and messing with modes brings HiDPI options (up to 3072) back. I bet you can get it working.
 
Thanks all for the contributions on this thread. I took the plunge and purchased the LG 40U990A-W and can confirm 3840x1620 @ 120Hz is working on my M4 Pro/MacBook Pro. I previously had the LG 40WP95C-W and was unable to run at this resolution.
 
Thanks all for the contributions on this thread. I took the plunge and purchased the LG 40U990A-W and can confirm 3840x1620 @ 120Hz is working on my M4 Pro/MacBook Pro. I previously had the LG 40WP95C-W and was unable to run at this resolution.
Wow thanks for confirming. Unfortunately that seems to indicate that the 95C is the problem, even though with eg my M1 Max I get 3840x1620 on it, though limited to the screens 72Hz.
 
I have a 34-inch 5k2k 60Hz(34BK95U) display and love it. Perfect screen size for me and has decent PPI. Currently M4 Pro is providing 3360x1418 resolution which is not sufficient. I spent some time editing the EDID and managed to get 3840x1620 resolution, but I’m stuck at 100Hz. No matter what I tried, I couldn’t change the refresh rate to 60Hz.

I used AW EDID Editor to add VIC 216: (CEA 5120x2160p 60Hz 64:27), but it didn’t work. When I added VIC 218: (CEA 5120x2160p 100Hz 64:27), 3840x1620@100Hz became available. It seems, M4 doesn't use/support CEA 5120x2160p 60Hz 64:27, but rather 100Hz and 120Hz, which my monitor doesn’t support. I spent my entire day updating DTDs, nothing worked. In the end, I switched back to virtual display.

If you don't want to install BetterDisplay and a simple way to create a virtual display, you can use the library below. It's simple and provides custom scale and even you can update the code. I already fixed the many issues upstream had.

 
I have a 34-inch 5k2k 60Hz(34BK95U) display and love it. Perfect screen size for me and has decent PPI. Currently M4 Pro is providing 3360x1418 resolution which is not sufficient. I spent some time editing the EDID and managed to get 3840x1620 resolution, but I’m stuck at 100Hz. No matter what I tried, I couldn’t change the refresh rate to 60Hz.
Bet you anything that if you had an M3 Pro (or M3 Max) it would work. (I have that same LG 34” 5K2K monitor as you.)
 
Sorry if I missed something... why would the M3 Pro/Max work better than an M4 Pro?
This is a question to Apple. Before m4 series 60hz ultrawide monitors work perfectly fine with pro/max chips (giving good scaling options out of the box, at least 5k2k monitors), starting m4 seria you need 120Hz monitor to get this scaling options. This is software limitation which Apple won't fix seems
 
Hi,


I’m considering the LG 40U990A-W 40" 5K2K monitor for my MacBook Air M4.


Can anyone confirm if it works properly with macOS in 3840×1620 HiDPI mode?


Main questions:


  1. Is 3840×1620 HiDPI available?
  2. Does it work over USB-C / Thunderbolt?
  3. Is 120 Hz available, or only 60 Hz?
  4. Any issues with sleep/wake, flickering, scaling, or text clarity?
  5. Has anyone tested it with a second 2560×1440 monitor?

Feedback from Mac mini M4 users would also be very helpful.


Thanks!
 
Thanks, I saw it — definitely makes me optimistic that it should work..

That confirms 3840×1620 HiDPI @ 120Hz on an M4 Pro MacBook Pro, which is a great sign.

I’m still trying to confirm whether the same mode is available on the base M4, especially MacBook Air M4 or Mac mini M4. I know the M4 Pro may have a stronger display engine, so I’d like to avoid assuming it will behave exactly the same.

If anyone has tested the LG 40U990A-W with a MacBook Air M4 or Mac mini M4, I’d really appreciate confirmation.
 
I'm seeing a bit interesting behavior regarding the 3840x1620 HiDPI option when running my Samsung G95NC in PbP with 21:9 + 11:9 split over the native HDMI port.

Using two Macbook Pro 16" models.

M2 Max (MacOS Sequoia whatever is the latest version):

  • Allows selecting 60 and 120 Hz refresh rate at 3840x1620 HiDPI.
  • Display gets detected as 10-bit full range color.

M5 Pro (MacOS Tahoe 26.5):

  • Only 120 Hz refresh rate is selectable at 3840x1620 HiDPI.
  • If I set it to native 5120x2160 resolution 60 Hz and 120 Hz are available.
  • If I set the HiDPI scaling to 3360x1418 HiDPI then 60 Hz and 120 Hz are available.
  • Display gets detected as 10-bit YCbCR limited range color. I have to use BetterDisplay to force it back to 10-bit RGB full range.
This sounds like Apple's hacky workaround BS in action once again because only that specific HiDPI option is affected.
 
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