5s all but worthless on sprint

[eyoungren]

Of course Wimax is dead..the point was they had and still have no idea what they are doing. WiMax...lol. Like it ever had a chance. Everyone else was going the norm and Sprint creates this garbage WiMax rollout. When they finally gave up on it, AT&T and Verizon had full blown LTE networks here already.

"way back in 1999" Seriously...your going there to defend your point? A "useable" network justifies sticking with them?


meh, i am not going to argue about it, not worth it. Have a nice day

Well, I'm not arguing. I'm discussing, but if you want to leave that's your perogative. In any case, if you do see it as arguing get the facts right.

Your comments about WiMax show that you don't really know much about Sprint's situation during that time so let me explain.

Gary Forsee let the network go to hell and then bought Nextel on top of it. So, in December of 2008 the Sprint board replaced him with Dan Hesse. Hesse is a loser too, but he inherited Forsee's mess. At this point Sprint had two problems. It had NO money to build ANYTHING because of Forsee and the FCC came calling and told Sprint that it either had to use certain spectrum licenses it held or it would lose them.

Clearwire was already rolling out WiMax and LTE was in a concept phase. So Sprint did the only thing it could when it had no money and was facing the loss of their spectrum licenses. They partnered with Clearwire for WiMax. Ultimately, Clearwire proved to be as big a f*up as Sprint and so after arguments with Sprint over premium data charges they stopped building out WiMax altogther. This left Sprint in the lurch. Fortunately they managed to recover enough cash to plan and build out NV, but because of the previous problem they were behind.

As to the NV rollout, if you read any of my comments in other threads here you'll see that I believe it was a complete screwup.

A useable network means I can do what I wish/need to do. I don't NEED 100mbps down to load a webpage on my iPhone 5.

And yes I am defending my choice. You get to defend yours, I can defend mine. Sprint, on the other hand I won't defend. I am simply explaining.

 

[djransom]

I think this type of question depends on location. I'm in the Poconos in PA. Only Verizon and AT&T work best here. Good luck with t-mobile and sprint unless you are in the middle of a city.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much!

 

[Black Magic]

Well, I'm not arguing. I'm discussing, but if you want to leave that's your perogative. In any case, if you do see it as arguing get the facts right.

Your comments about WiMax show that you don't really know much about Sprint's situation during that time so let me explain.

Gary Forsee let the network go to hell and then bought Nextel on top of it. So, in December of 2008 the Sprint board replaced him with Dan Hesse. Hesse is a loser too, but he inherited Forsee's mess. At this point Sprint had two problems. It had NO money to build ANYTHING because of Forsee and the FCC came calling and told Sprint that it either had to use certain spectrum licenses it held or it would lose them.

Clearwire was already rolling out WiMax and LTE was in a concept phase. So Sprint did the only thing it could when it had no money and was facing the loss of their spectrum licenses. They partnered with Clearwire for WiMax. Ultimately, Clearwire proved to be as big a f*up as Sprint and so after arguments with Sprint over premium data charges they stopped building out WiMax altogther. This left Sprint in the lurch. Fortunately they managed to recover enough cash to plan and build out NV, but because of the previous problem they were behind.

As to the NV rollout, if you read any of my comments in other threads here you'll see that I believe it was a complete screwup.

A useable network means I can do what I wish/need to do. I don't NEED 100mbps down to load a webpage on my iPhone 5.

And yes I am defending my choice. You get to defend yours, I can defend mine. Sprint, on the other hand I won't defend. I am simply explaining.

Good stuff. You bring up a valid point that most seem to overlook which is usable speeds. On the iPhone, folks usually play games, surf the web, stream, and socialize. 12 MB down will handle all of those with ease and you would not notice any difference if you had 50 MB down (except for your wallet if you are with another carrier).

 

[faiz23]

Good stuff. You bring up a valid point that most seem to overlook which is usable speeds. On the iPhone, folks usually play games, surf the web, stream, and socialize. 12 MB down will handle all of those with ease and you would not notice any difference if you had 50 MB down (except for your wallet if you are with another carrier).

I would rather have 50mbs down than 12mbs down. Once you load up the network and speedtest during peak times. Your 50Mbps speedtest will result to 15mbps and your 12 Mbps will result to 2 Mbps. It is not only about what speeds your phone can use but also what speeds is available to the tower as whole and how that affects each individual user.

More bandwidth means less chances of network congestion. Lets start loading down the towers at 95% capacity and run speed test on both to see the results. I would rather have a network that can hit 50mbps versus one that hits 12mbps.

 

[eyoungren]

Good stuff. You bring up a valid point that most seem to overlook which is usable speeds. On the iPhone, folks usually play games, surf the web, stream, and socialize. 12 MB down will handle all of those with ease and you would not notice any difference if you had 50 MB down (except for your wallet if you are with another carrier).

Speed tests are great, I use them too. But the only real purpose they serve here (on MR) is to show whose carrier has the biggest package.

My carrier is better than yours and your's sucks because you don't get the fast speeds I get. Being able to stream music, load web pages and use data on your phone doesn't matter. Because your carrier is slower than mine and my speed test proves it - your carrier sucks.

Kind of like saying the last guy to cross the line at the Indy 500 stinks. That guy is still doing 150+mph.

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I would rather have 50mbs down than 12mbs down. Once you load up the network and speedtest during peak times. Your 50Mbps speedtest will result to 15mbps and your 12 Mbps will result to 2 Mbps. It is not only about what speeds your phone can use but also what speeds is available to the tower as whole and how that affects each individual user.

More bandwidth means less chances of network congestion. Lets start loading down the towers at 95% capacity and run speed test on both to see the results. I would rather have a network that can hit 50mbps versus one that hits 12mbps.

OK. How does this help me load Facebook faster?

 

[taedouni]

With Tmobile offering unlimited data, I just don't see why someone would stick with Sprint. Tmobile's 2G network is probably faster than Sprint's 3G network.

As for me, I'm the kind of person that favors quality. I rather spend an extra $15 a month to get quality service . I'm the guy who forks over a an extra $100 go get the better TV. I just don't see how people think saving 10-20% a month is worth crap quality.

 

[faiz23]

Kind of like saying the last guy to cross the line at the Indy 500 stinks. That guy is still doing 150+mph.

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OK. How does this help me load Facebook faster?

If you were the owner of a nascar team would you invest in the person who comes last at the indy or comes first at the indy. You have a choice to choose your carrier and you chose a carrier who provides you speeds that are below what national average is among the big 4.

How does that affect your facebook loading. Once network is loaded your ping will be absolutely crap along with download speeds and upload speeds that are back to 3g. This will make data intensive pages time out and you will be refreshing your apps while others are enjoying their experience and posting away. If sprint works great in your home territory and you are a hermit that never leaves his home territory than sprint is wonderful. For rest of the folks that go all over the US and need a reliable connection. Thank god for capitalism and freedom to choose a quality carrier that does not need money injected into their infrastructure from third party carriers outside of US.

 

[ABC5S]

I was one of the hapless sprint customers eager to get a 4s on launch day, and then subsequently lied to just long enough to get me past the 14 day return period. This time, I decided to try the 5s because the sprint store liars said LTE worked, only to find that it was equivalent to using a Ferrari in a school zone. Anyone having these same thoughts?

Needless to say, I returned the phone to sprint w/in the 14 day return period and I'm waiting for my Verizon 5s to arrive.
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Bought, a while back, from Sprint the Samsung Galaxy 2, and was told how great it was, and the download speeds were just fast. Got home, played with it a few hours. Left the house, and played some more at my favorite eating place. Next day I arrived back at the Sprint store, and said good-by to that carrier. What a joke that was. Never again.

Now with Verizon Dunedin, Florida

 

[faiz23]

You folks need to look into the verizon loyalty plan that is just a simple phone call away to customer care. 2GB of data + Unlimited Talk and Text for $60 a month @ Verizon. Get all the juicy details over on slick deals.

 

[Black Magic]

With Tmobile offering unlimited data, I just don't see why someone would stick with Sprint. Tmobile's 2G network is probably faster than Sprint's 3G network.

As for me, I'm the kind of person that favors quality. I rather spend an extra $15 a month to get quality service . I'm the guy who forks over a an extra $100 go get the better TV. I just don't see how people think saving 10-20% a month is worth crap quality.

Apparently you define quality by how fast your data connection is. For me, I'm looking at call quality, reliability, speed, consistency, and longevity. Sprint in my area meets the criteria and I just so happen to pay less which turns out to be a great value as well.

 

[eyoungren]

If you were the owner of a nascar team would you invest in the person who comes last at the indy or comes first at the indy. You have a choice to choose your carrier and you chose a carrier who provides you speeds that are below what national average is among the big 4.

How does that affect your facebook loading. Once network is loaded your ping will be absolutely crap along with download speeds and upload speeds that are back to 3g. This will make data intensive pages time out and you will be refreshing your apps while others are enjoying their experience and posting away. If sprint works great in your home territory and you are a hermit that never leaves his home territory than sprint is wonderful. For rest of the folks that go all over the US and need a reliable connection. Thank god for capitalism and freedom to choose a quality carrier that does not need money injected into their infrastructure from third party carriers outside of US.

Good argument. All I will say is that I am in one of those areas where Sprint is good. I've never argued that it's been good in places where it wasn't.

As to the hermit…well that would be me. I'm usually in one of three places. Work, Home or Starbucks. All three places have WiFi, work and home have LTE and Starbucks has decent 3G should I be using it instead of WiFi. Anywhere in between the 3G is still fast enough to stream music and LTE is building out. Most of my phone use is for calls and Sprint has good voice quality where I live. Usually any time I get a dropped call it's because my mom's iPhone which is on AT&T cut me off, not Sprint.

Because of all that I don't NEED a faster carrier. This works for me. It may not work for others.

 

[cdmoore74]

You get what you pay for.

 

[RiddlaBronc]

I have Sprint and they suck but for my usuage it's fine. There is no 4G or LTE in my area. All i see is 3G. So basically my 4 still gets it done. I am mostly on wifi though, work,school, and home. Seems wifi is everywhere.

I hope Sprint gets its act together. All other carriers offer 4G/LTE even Cricket.

 

[eyoungren]

I have Sprint and they suck but for my usuage it's fine. There is no 4G or LTE in my area. All i see is 3G. So basically my 4 still gets it done. I am mostly on wifi though, work,school, and home. Seems wifi is everywhere.

I hope Sprint gets its act together. All other carriers offer 4G/LTE even Cricket.

Network Vision is also upgrading the 3G. It's being connected to the fiber optic bachaul along with LTE so hopefully that improves in your area soon.

You were aware that with the iPhone 4 though you will never see LTE, right? The iPhone 5 is the first LTE capable iPhone.

 

[2298754]

I'm getting roughly 12mbps down with about 3mbps up on LTE. If that's dialup, I'll take it.

If they can reliably provide that and keep up with the increasing demand for data, that is pretty respectable.

 

[JGWolven]

I live in the Seattle area, and Sprint is personally atrocious to me. LTE rarely works, and it's hard to get any kind of signal. The area of Seattle in which I live has been so bad that Sprint provided a signal booster we have to keep plugged into our modem. Granted, Sprint was kind of enough to provide that free of charge, so kudos to them.

 

[eyoungren]

If they can reliably provide that and keep up with the increasing demand for data, that is pretty respectable.

Well, it's been three weeks so far (at home). It varies. Sometimes it's as low as 2mbps and there have been at least two days where it seemed like it was disconnected (no data), but overall that seems to be maintained. There are three or so other towers near my home that are still 3G only. It's just one tower so far that's serving LTE.

Once they get LTE on those other towers I expect improvement. But the fact that that one tower is handling the load of everyone I think is decent so far.

 

[RiddlaBronc]

Network Vision is also upgrading the 3G. It's being connected to the fiber optic bachaul along with LTE so hopefully that improves in your area soon.

You were aware that with the iPhone 4 though you will never see LTE, right? The iPhone 5 is the first LTE capable iPhone.

Yeah I hope it does but like you said 3G still gets it done.

And i meant that i upgraded to a 5s but wont be able to take advantage of the LTE band. Still waiting on the phone though but no rush.

 

[Namji]

Some sprint customers stay sprint because it's cheap... There is absolutely no other reason.

 

[tremlock]

You folks need to look into the verizon loyalty plan that is just a simple phone call away to customer care. 2GB of data + Unlimited Talk and Text for $60 a month @ Verizon. Get all the juicy details over on slick deals.

can you elaborate on this? I can't seem to find any info on this.

 

[CEmajr]

With Tmobile offering unlimited data, I just don't see why someone would stick with Sprint. Tmobile's 2G network is probably faster than Sprint's 3G network.

As for me, I'm the kind of person that favors quality. I rather spend an extra $15 a month to get quality service . I'm the guy who forks over a an extra $100 go get the better TV. I just don't see how people think saving 10-20% a month is worth crap quality.

I agree. Tmobile and Sprint have similar coverage but Sprint's data is terrible when outside their LTE footprint. The 3G is like Edge as you said. With tmobile when you're in areas with holes in the LTE the 4G fallback is pretty damn fast. Add to the fact that Sprint is CDMA and it's even worse. I could somewhat tolerate CDMA on Verizon due to the large coverage area.

 

[sjperformance]

I actually left sprint almost 3 weeks ago after 12 years with them. One of the best decisions I've done. My wife and I now have 2 iPhone 5s on AT&T. Here in Miami (AT&T and Verizon) offer the best data/voice coverage. I get LTE practically everywhere and when I am on 4G that's fast too. Glad I made the switch and it's like 40 times better

 

[faiz23]

can you elaborate on this? I can't seem to find any info on this.

What is my incentive to elaborate on this topic. In America we always look for the incentive and what's in it for me. I already posted more than plenty in my original post. Convince me to post more and I will provide the link to the thread with over 120,000 views.

 

[tremlock]

What is my incentive to elaborate on this topic. In America we always look for the incentive and what's in it for me. I already posted more than plenty in my original post. Convince me to post more and I will provide the link to the thread with over 120,000 views.

Incentive? You are kidding right? I was merely asking if you had more specific information. I did not find anything on slickdeals as you mentioned. You can go back to having a miserable existence now.

 

[faiz23]

Incentive? You are kidding right? I was merely asking if you had more specific information. I did not find anything on slickdeals as you mentioned. You can go back to having a miserable existence now.

You obviously did not look hard enough since it is on the first 3 pages and I just bumped it up to the first page. Dig deeper watson...