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We have seen the 5S home button ribbon cable though...

..longer than the current cable, and more pins on the connector:



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I disagree. I think after TC made the statement "We're doubling down on secrecy" the flood gates opened on leaks. Nothing has been kept under wraps the past few years. And I understand that it's pretty much impossible to keep secrets on something so big. And I also disagree on the FP sensor. If it does come to fruition, and it's done right, it could be the huge. IMO, every FP scanner to date is complete garbage. If apple employs new technology that works properly & is very secure (which I believe apple will), the possibilities are endless. It's coming. But when I don't know.

It is all coming but I do not think on the 5S.

I have my doubts about the finger print scanner. Not saying it will not have one but its use will be limited except for phone operation which I doubt I will use. I do not leave my phone laying around and do not fear the data if stolen as my important data is secured and encrypted.

I can't see my bank allowing me to access all of my accounts and move money around with a fingerprint scanner from Apple. Passwords, with the input proof, will be around and demanded for a long time. Sure this might all be coming but not till maybe the iPhone 7.
 
It is all coming but I do not think on the 5S.

I have my doubts about the finger print scanner. I can't see my bank allowing me to access all of my accounts and move money around with a fingerprint scanner from Apple. Password, with the input proof will be around and demanded for a long time. Sure this might all be coming but not till maybe the iPhone 7.

Well each company will have to approve it for their apps. If Bank of America decides they still want traditional passwords on their eBanking app, they won't make the scanner compatible for it. All Apple can do is allow it for Apple accounts and give their developers the option to take advantage of the technology or not.
 
Well each company will have to approve it for their apps. If Bank of America decides they still want traditional passwords on their eBanking app, they won't make the scanner compatible for it. All Apple can do is allow it for Apple accounts and give their developers the option to take advantage of the technology or not.

Hmmm..........

That is what I basically said.
 
This is why I will upgrade every 2 years.

The first iPhone I owned is my current 4S, still have it, mint condition. If I plan on upgrading to 5S or 5C (or whatever) in the fall (I'm already able to upgrade) then it will be exciting for me because I have the last generation (physically). Upgrading every year leaves with you the "hmm, not much changed" feeling. The 'every 2 year route' is the most satisfying, in my opinion. And I might honestly keep my 4S, it works perfectly.

I don't pay attention to rumors, or leaks. Not that I don't want the surprise to be spoiled, I just like not knowing what's going on and then deciding when the actual phone comes out, when I see them in people's hands.
 
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Well each company will have to approve it for their apps. If Bank of America decides they still want traditional passwords on their eBanking app, they won't make the scanner compatible for it. All Apple can do is allow it for Apple accounts and give their developers the option to take advantage of the technology or not.

Your thinking in the past. IF apple puts a FP scanner into the iPhone, it is NOT for the sole purpose of unlocking ur phone. They are looking at the big picture. They already know that banks will adopt the new tech. They're not hoping so. I'd bet the house that if a FP scanner is put on the iPhone, it will be VERY secure. And banks will begin using the scanner within 4-6 months.
 
I disagree. I think after TC made the statement "We're doubling down on secrecy" the flood gates opened on leaks. Nothing has been kept under wraps the past few years.

I don't remember seeing any actual leaks about the new Mac Pro. Lots of guesses, but that design was a surprise.

I think Apple spends less energy on things that are likely to be leaked no matter what. Once a phone enters production in China, it's kind of game over as far as secrecy goes.
 
I don't remember seeing any actual leaks about the new Mac Pro. Lots of guesses, but that design was a surprise.

I think Apple spends less energy on things that are likely to be leaked no matter what. Once a phone enters production in China, it's kind of game over as far as secrecy goes.

You didn't see any pro leaks because theirs a niche market for it. Quite frankly, the masses didn't really care.
 
You didn't see any pro leaks because theirs a niche market for it. Quite frankly, the masses didn't really care.

It sure got a lot of media attention once Apple showed it off. I think the rumor sites would have been all over themselves if they had had any info on it. It wasn't even close to being in production at the time, so it was a lot easier to keep it under wraps.
 
It sure got a lot of media attention once Apple showed it off. I think the rumor sites would have been all over themselves if they had had any info on it. It wasn't even close to being in production at the time, so it was a lot easier to keep it under wraps.

It got attention from tech sites and blogs. We cared. But "we're" a very small (low single digit) percentage of apples consumers. The iPhone is a monster. It's the biggest tech gadget in the world. Big difference. I'm not saying that apple couldn't have kept the FP sensor totally hidden. But considering its the most sought after part of the new iPhone, and thousands of factory workers are supposedly installing & touching millions as we speak, I can't imagine it's remained totally hidden.
 
Like phones before it, the 5S should have enough incremental upgrades to make it worthwhile. For me, I'll upgrade if the camera is improved (and it sounds like it is). The rest is just gravy. Someone else will have a different trigger.
 
I'm not saying that apple couldn't have kept the FP sensor totally hidden. But considering its the most sought after part of the new iPhone, and thousands of factory workers are supposedly installing & touching millions as we speak, I can't imagine it's remained totally hidden.

Careful, if the new iPhone has a fingerprint sensor you're going to have to admit that Apple successfully doubled down on secrecy. ;)
 
Don't count on the fingerprint scanner. While it may be there no leaks have come out other than
A Biometric folder in iOS beta 4. Biometric folder really doesn't offer hard proof. If Apple does offer a FP scanner it will have to be secure, not drain battery life and work
If anyone is capable of this its Apple
 
Don't count on the fingerprint scanner. While it may be there no leaks have come out other than Biometric folder in iOS beta 4. Biometric folder really doesn't offer hard proof.
While it's not hard proof, the Apple biometric folder and the references to Apple IOS7 fingerprint scanning certainly suggest that the feature is coming soon. It's arguably the best evidence we have for new IP5S functionality.
 
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Hopeful

I really do think that this will happen.

Reasons for it:
+ Redesigned Metal Backing for the home button
+ Different Ribbon with more connectors
+ No screen leaks (we have always had screen leaks)
+ No Home button leaks (if this was a standard button surely we would have seen the buttons being leaked
+ iOS Beta 4 Reference to it (I think it was a folder).
+ Authentek being bought by Apple.

Im pretty confident we will see this.

Im just hoping it is for the 5S and the 5C.

Another angle, would a new processor, a better camera and other storage / colour configurations be enough to persuade people to buy the 5S and not the 5C? Premium Design only goes so far

iOS7 is hardly a "Killer Feature" as the 5C will have this as well.
 
While it's not hard proof, the Apple biometric folder and the references to Apple IOS7 fingerprint scanning certainly suggest that the feature is coming soon. It's arguably the best evidence we have for new IP5S functionality.

Could be coming to the iPad 5 like initially rumored.

I'm going to withhold my opinion now that we are so close to finding out for sure.
 
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What was the smallest update to an iPhone? Maybe the 3G? Which wasn't a disappointment at all.

I'm not worried one bit.

Is it just me, or do the side bezels in the photos on the right look almost half the size of those on the left. And the bottom of the home button also has a smaller border to the bottom edge of the phone; the home button bezel actually looks a little smaller overall. Half-life 3 confirmed? I mean, >4" display confirmed? The picture sizes are slightly different overall however.
 
Honestly, I had an iPhone 5 on launch day, then realised how boring I find iOS and sold it and got a Note 2. Kind of missed the iPhone and iMessage, so got an iPhone 5 in the interim to hold me over.

Now I feel like I might just hold on to my iPhone 5, because I really don't see myself spending any money for what is a 31% faster phone with a slightly better camera and perhaps 100ma more battery.

I really am hoping for a miracle on the 10th! Let's hope something awesome is released! :)
 
They should do something really exciting to prevent cannibalism by the 5C, but it's kinda hard to foresee what they could add hardware-wise.

I'm afraid Apple will instead either omit software features from the 5C (like Siri was 4S only) or make 5C hardware not-up-to-date (like the retina missing from the iPad mini). I think this strategy could backfire with the press. Instead they should make the 5C at least as good as the iPhone 5 is and then go completely nuts with iPhone 5S making it the best of the best of the best.

That said, that is difficult without making both models too expensive.
 
Wow...a fingerprint sensor. (yawn).

Where is the screen you can see outdoors in bright light? Now that would be a worthwhile upgrade.
 
I really do think that this will happen.

Reasons for it:
+ Redesigned Metal Backing for the home button
+ Different Ribbon with more connectors
+ No screen leaks (we have always had screen leaks)
+ No Home button leaks (if this was a standard button surely we would have seen the buttons being leaked.

Good points. Unless the screen and home button haven't changed at all. In which case, leaks wouldn't matter since I'm holding both those parts in my hand right now.

But on the other hand... You would think that if the parts were unchanged we would have a fully assembled 5S leak.

Good thing is that we'll all know in 8 days. Can't wait!
 
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