Why more pins to the home button? Exactly...swipe for action or a fingerprint sensor. The fp sensor more likely.
I do think this will happen.
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Why more pins to the home button? Exactly...swipe for action or a fingerprint sensor. The fp sensor more likely.
I do think this will happen.
5S even smaller of an update then we might think
No, I don't buy that - the fingerprint sensor (and it's possible location) has been talked about so much, if a potential "leaker" had the actual home button in front of them and it was just a button, we would see it - that news would get out.
I think it's pretty likely that it's happening. The 5S needs something to make it special. Even the 4S (much maligned when it was announced) had something unique in the form of Siri. And people often forget that Siri also required new hardware - a custom noise cancelling chip and an all new and additional proximity sensor - that was new and exclusive to the 4S when it was released. As far as I remember, while the theory of integrated Siri was rumoured before the 4S announcement (an educated guess since apple had bought Siri's developers) none of that hardware was leaked or shown ahead of time.
No, I don't buy that - the fingerprint sensor (and it's possible location) has been talked about so much, if a potential "leaker" had the actual home button in front of them and it was just a button, we would see it - that news would get out.
I think it's pretty likely that it's happening. The 5S needs something to make it special. Even the 4S (much maligned when it was announced) had something unique in the form of Siri. And people often forget that Siri also required new hardware - a custom noise cancelling chip and an all new and additional proximity sensor - that was new and exclusive to the 4S when it was released. As far as I remember, while the theory of integrated Siri was rumoured before the 4S announcement (an educated guess since apple had bought Siri's developers) none of that hardware was leaked or shown ahead of time.
I hope ur right. I agree the 5S has to have some feature that trumps the 5. And if the 5C is simiIar to the 5..that's even more reason the 5S has to have something big. I just can't believe not one single link points directly to an FP sensor. The home button will have to change drastically. As will the space behind the home button. The ribbon cable leak hints at a change. But not directly to an FP sensor. The parts I would have to believe are small. Small enough that they could quite easily be smuggled out by one of the thousands of workers.
So it leads me to 2 possibilities...Either we're not getting a FP scanner. Or, it's one of the biggest, well kept secrets in apple history. Only time will tell. One short week left.
I totally agree with you. Only reason I don't have my password set to "immediately" is the annoyance at having to enter every time I look at my phone. Every four hours instead is what I have. I hope though that this may apply to entering your password for the App Store and iTunes Store as well. That annoys the crap out of that that there's no option for "never." I don't have kids yet, and am not worried about someone inadvertently buying an app on my phone, which I ONLY use!
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I totally agree with you. Only reason I don't have my password set to "immediately" is the annoyance at having to enter every time I look at my phone. Every four hours instead is what I have. I hope though that this may apply to entering your password for the App Store and iTunes Store as well. That annoys the crap out of that that there's no option for "never." I don't have kids yet, and am not worried about someone inadvertently buying an app on my phone, which only I use!!
Or maybe, just maybe we are going to see just the 5C...
When was the last time, if ever, than even the package of a new phone was leaked?
Why would the home button need to change drastically? It's been rumored to look nearly identical.
It's also been said that the scanner wasn't built into earlier prototypes but tested in external housings.
I wouldn't call the fingerprint scanner a well kept secret at all. Anybody who has reported on Apple rumors has mentioned a fingerprint scanner.
That has been typical of Apple for a while now. They don't do huge upgrades every single time. They don't redesign every single time.
Remember that they are designing for folks that stay on a device for the full two years. Not that sell on ebay and update every time. So every other phone will be a big change for folks.
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I saw the same pictures you saw. Allegedly a different shaped home button or back of the home button. But what does that mean anyway? Nothing? Something? Could be the exact same home button simply redesigned and without a sensor.
It's simply proof of nothing.
Clearly I speak for myself but I'm getting tired of Apple's "S" updates. Competition is just too strong. Jobs himself mention in Jan 2007 that Apple is at least 5ish years ahead of the competition. Those days of being front runners are over and Apple needs to realize. We need a bigger screen and new revolutionary features - not another boring "S" update with a faster processor!
You execs better bring on a fingerprint sensor!!!!
Some upgrades are just not worth it. Currently with the MacBook Air, you can choose the current one with 1.8 GHz. or longer battery with 1.7 Ghz. Yes, they actually decreased the performance for battery life.
So what are you saying is that Apple caters only for existing iPhone users and don't care about new potential customers?
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Agreed. Plus if you look at the picture, it actually just looks like the plastic from a front screen protector IMO.
Well, it would have to be different enough to become a sensor that reads ur fingerprint. Then there is the sensor itself. And yes, early prototypes may have been in there own cheap wooden housing way back when, but now they are in full production. Being built and placed into phones by the millions. And I know the most reliable analysts all agree that there will be a FP scanner. And I hope there is. But I just cannot believe there hasn't been one solid leak of it. So, cudos to Apple if they were able to keep it totally hidden. But I don't see how when every tech site in the world is laser focused on trying to get their hands on one. We'll all know in exactly 1 week.
The home button will need to change its shape or integrate a swipe scanner. Your thumb tip doesn't have enough print info on it to be secure whatsoever. So they will need to be a way to scan the entire print.
From experience, a swipe style scanner isn't very secure in the realm of finger print scanning. I'm not sure but I don't think authentec uses a swipe scanner. So the button will need to be redesigned to be larger IMO.
I think we are looking at this the wrong way. We see a different home button then leap into it having the scanner built in. I feel that's the wrong way of looking at it. It could be an improvement to the home button in some other way. And a scanner built in behind the screen.
Personally (and I'm prepared to be wrong) but I don't think the next iPhone will have a finger print scanner at all. Maybe the next iPad will but I'm not seeing leaks that tell me it's going to be there. Just rumors and guesses it will at every slight modification in hardware. Why not a scanner in the Apple logo on the back right were you rest your index finger? As soon as someone sees the slightest difference with that logo that will be the new rumor...
From experience, a swipe style scanner isn't very secure in the realm of finger print scanning. I'm not sure but I don't think authentec uses a swipe scanner. So the button will need to be redesigned to be larger IMO.
I think we are looking at this the wrong way. We see a different home button then leap into it having the scanner built in. I feel that's the wrong way of looking at it. It could be an improvement to the home button in some other way. And a scanner built in behind the screen.
Personally (and I'm prepared to be wrong) but I don't think the next iPhone will have a finger print scanner at all. Maybe the next iPad will but I'm not seeing leaks that tell me it's going to be there. Just rumors and guesses it will at every slight modification in hardware. Why not a scanner in the Apple logo on the back right were you rest your index finger? As soon as someone sees the slightest difference with that logo that will be the new rumor...
this sums up my toughts exactly. Its an S release, though we may get the FP sensor, seeing how we got siri with the 4S
My fear is having another "gate" debacle. First we had antennaGate, then we had scuffGate, and I'm just hoping we don't have fingerprintsensorGate as well. Hopefully the technology and engineering is mature enough where it will work as well as it's supposed to.
If Apple held back from every new technology in fear of the possible "gates" that might become attached to them then, well, they wouldn't really be Apple anymore..
Are you sure they're in production by the millions? We've seen plenty of "5C" photos -- phones being tested, phones being packaged, and even a supposed video of a phone powered on. IIRC, we haven't seen any of that from the "5S." We have seen supposed back plates in two new colors, the new dual-LED flash, and the new ribbon cables and configurations for a few parts, but we haven't seen any fully-assembled phones or packaging shots like we have seen with the "5C."
I guess my point is that the rumored fingerprint sensor is just as likely (or not) as the champagne and slate colors or the dual LED. They've all just been bits and pieces of rumors. There've been no leaks of fully assembled phones so either the plant they're being built in is WAY better at controlling leaks, or maybe they're not as far into production as the "5C"...
I think a fingerprint sensor is almost pointless if the only thing it does is replace the password entry screen. I wonder how many people even use the password entry screen? It will save me a couple of clicks a day which I do appreciate though. Still it is a solution to a non-problem for my usage.
Hopefully, Apple does more with it, but I think its a foundation for other possibilities in maybe year 2 or 3.
Hopefully, Apple does more with it, but I think its a foundation for other possibilities in maybe year 2 or 3.
I won't cry myself to sleep over my 5 not having it, but I think the fingerprint sensor will actually be a great feature if done well. As I understand it, all the secure stuff takes place in the reader itself, so once you've established ownership of the phone that same authentication can be extended to anything - including any third party app - quite safely.
So the sensor doesn't just unlock your phone, it also logs you into your Internet banking app, verifies your app and iTunes Store purchases, secures your safari keychain, etc etc - just touch and go, never enter another password or pin again.
So the sensor doesn't just unlock your phone, it also logs you into your Internet banking app, verifies your app and iTunes Store purchases, secures your safari keychain, etc etc - just touch and go, never enter another password or pin again.
Or it won't because it will require the other apps to support it and they won't.
At this point I wouldn't expect much out of this sensor, if it even exists, than unlocking your iPhone. And barring pocket unlocks. In a year or two then we can talk about no more passwords.
Apple release a nice simple API and the developers - particularly those working on very secure apps crying out for this kind of stuff - get right to it. Why should it take years? I'd expect months at most - in fact a few select launch partners probably have apps ready to go already, and will be demoed next week. IF this thing has the sensor.
If there is a fingerprint scanner, I believe the technology will be very mature and useful. Look at Apple's history. They may release certain technologies later than other companies but unlike the others, it usually isn't very buggy. Obviously there are exceptions (i.e. Apple maps) but generally that has been the case.
I think it's pretty nice, I don't use a password specifically because I don't want to look down at my phone and enter in a code all the time. If it's just a matter of putting my thumb on a button that streamlines it a ton and would encourage me to lock my phone.