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6.1-Inch iPhone SE 4 OLED Panel to Be Supplied by China's BOE
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Fortunately my 13 mini continues to roll on strong as ever. Worst case, I pay for a battery replacement a year from now, if needed.
Though I was tempted by the (rumored) yellow 14, I will hold out hope for a return of the mini form factor, and only upgrade when the poor 13 mini can't handle anymore.
And that is still a few years off, I hope.
Though I was tempted by the (rumored) yellow 14, I will hold out hope for a return of the mini form factor, and only upgrade when the poor 13 mini can't handle anymore.
And that is still a few years off, I hope.
I was just thinking it seems strange for them to leapfrog from the 2017 iPhone 8 design to the current 14 design in the SE, but it makes sense if you think of it like that.
I can understand Apple's hesitancy to base the next SE on the mini due to the mini's poor sales but it would at least distinguish it more from the rest of the iPhone lineup especially with the current, smaller SE going away. A 5.4" SE with a starting price of around $449 might've done well. I think a 6.1" SE will cannibalize sales from other 6.1" (13/14) models, much more so than a 5.4" SE would.
I wonder if the 6.1" SE will result in Apple dropping the 13 instead of keeping it around for a third year. At least that would streamline Apple's iPhone lineup a bit.
I wonder if the 6.1" SE will result in Apple dropping the 13 instead of keeping it around for a third year. At least that would streamline Apple's iPhone lineup a bit.
Does Apple actually use the C word (cheap)?
I just don't see how Apple's branding of its iPhone lineup could get much worse. Mini, SE, what the heck is going on out in California. Must be something in the air.
Another OLED phone, no thanks, I can damage my eyes with every other phone in your line up Apple. Now a SE Plus with the 8 Plus design, 5g modem, A15 chip, night mode, take my money please!!
I wonder how many people are affected negatively by PWM. Do you have any links to scientific studies about PWM?
I found one paper: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15980316.2021.1950854 but it's one of the worst research articles I've ever seen.
A conclusion: "In this paper, the effects on the human body of flicker caused by PWM dimming control of LEDs were described."
The author did no such thing.
"Finally, the effects of smartphone displays on the human body were evaluated through experiments."
This is laughably incorrect. Here's what the author did: "The photodetector (model PDA100A, Thorlabs, USA) was placed at a distance D from the center of the DUT, at which point it measured the flicker in place of the human eye"
Using a photodetector doesn't count as measuring "the effects of smartphone displays on the human body". Last time I checked, you generally need human research participants to measure effects on the human body.
If you're aware of other research, I'd love to read it. I keep reading about the problems of PWD but so far haven't found anything that's not just a discussion online.
What's in the air is, money. If you look at Apple's sales charts, the iPhone has the majority of sales by a wide margin over anything else Apple sells. It's in their best interest to sell as much as they can before something else comes along and replaces smartphones altogether. The danger here is that people are beginning to question their privacy by using smartphones, even if you use an iPhone. And it's not just privacy but the effects of privacy plus the impact social media has on their lives and the addiction that comes with that. There is now a groundswell movement where dumbphones are now making a comeback.
Maybe not a full downgrade, the current SE already has an A15 so I'd expect this one to come with an A16. It should be more powerful than the 13 or 14.
Please scrap this move Apple.
I have used the Mini and SE side by side and I don’t see much difference in the display!
The SE form factor works!
Touch ID works faster than Face ID in my opinion.
The LCD is perfect for me. I get headaches using OLED iPhones!
SE Plus from iPhone 8 chassis would sell more than cheap OLED iPhone 14!
I have used the Mini and SE side by side and I don’t see much difference in the display!
The SE form factor works!
Touch ID works faster than Face ID in my opinion.
The LCD is perfect for me. I get headaches using OLED iPhones!
SE Plus from iPhone 8 chassis would sell more than cheap OLED iPhone 14!
Refer to this simple survey Apple;
It shows an SE Plus would be the clear winner.
The recent Macbook Pros brought back the ports selection after a hiatus.
The SE lineup does not have to go through that same route.
It shows an SE Plus would be the clear winner.
The recent Macbook Pros brought back the ports selection after a hiatus.
The SE lineup does not have to go through that same route.
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I'll believe this when I see it as this would be a huge departure from how Apple has historically developed the iPhone SE and for it to get to a certain price point.
I'd imagine an iPhone 14-based SE would start at a much higher price than the $429 the iPhone SE is at now (was $399 before), unless Apple wants to move it up market. An iPhone 14-based SE would easily be $600-$700. At that price, people may opt for one of the iPhone 15 models for $200-$300 more instead.
It's the iPhone SE's price point that has allowed Apple to steal away Android users who usually shop for low- to mid-range Android handsets. An iPhone SE at $600-$700 becomes a harder sell to these people.
Apple’s iPhone SE Is Stealing Android Users, Google Needs To Launch Pixel 4a Quickly
The iPhone SE has been a bit whilst the Pixel 4a has been a ghost.
www.forbes.com
iPhone SE 3 could steal 'more than a billion' Android users — here’s why
iPhone SE 3 could become the low-cost phone to beat
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I don't mind Apple using cheaper components but I would like that they stopped propping up Chinese companies.
Wow so now there will be Three 6.1” iphones and Three 6.7” iphones in the line up soon (iphone Ultra). Great stuff Apple… they should use the Mini chassis and provide a 5.4” SE size. Gives more sizing options.
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I loved the 13 mini size too.
What I wished it had:
-pro camera setup
-way better heat dissipation properties (too hot)
Other than that STELLAR device.
Edit: and additionally, after having the 14pro since October, I do really yearn for a lighter device. It could be a touch smaller too… but I really appreciate the breathing room of the 6.1” screen.
If they could get the 5.8” iPhone 11pro screen in a smaller chassis (flat edges) that would be pretty perfect.
I just really didn’t like the shrunk screen of the 5.4”. iOS is optimized for at least the 6.1” screen now. Which is sad.
You mean higher. A lot higher. No way this will be "a lot lowered" [sic] than the iPhone SE's current $429 starting price, not if its based on the iPhone 14 and has not just a larger 6.1 inch display, but an OLED dislay. This is going up 30% to 40%
I doubt feature phones will ever make a serious comeback beyond people who buy into the whole ”things were so great back in 2004” nostalgia. Just typing out a message on one is enough to make one appreciate having a smartphone with a full touch keyboard, and given that written communication is probably something that people use their phones for more than actual voice communication these days I’m pretty sure smartphones are here to stay as the default choice in the developed world (and much of the developing world, tbh). Affordability isn’t even that big of a factor given how easy it is to get a decent, cheap android phone.
If Apple move to using more Chinese produced parts for iPhone, then I will move to Samsung next time... Im already keeping my phone for years longer due to made in china
I could see it. The iPhone 14 design is nearly same as iPhone 12. The iPhone 12 was priced at $599 in 2022 so $499 in 2024 isn't that far off. There's also additional savings from this SE likely using a year and a half old chip instead of the latest chip like the older SE's did. Maybe remove the ultra wide lens.
I'm just not sure how it would fit into the lineup with the 13 and 14.
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I've actually not had any issues with heat from my 13 mini; but I also hardly use the device outside text messages and phone calls. The most intense use my phone gets is Marvel Snap for 20 minutes. 😂
Though I do agree that the pro camera set up would be awesome; I want to take more pictures with my phone, but I am just never quite satisfied with the zoom properties on my phone.