6-Core Version of Apple's New Mac Pro Appears in Benchmarks

[iSee]

If memory serves, Mavericks will also utilise the GPU to aid with processing. I'm very interested to see how this translates to real-world performance, especially on the dual-GPU Mac Pro.

Does someone have links for this?

I would think not, other than the normal stuff:
(1) using the GPU to render the screen contents -- which they've been doing all along, though there are ongoing improvements.
(2) they updated the versions of OpenCL and OpenGL supported, which gives software developers more options.

But maybe they are starting to use OpenCL themselves for appropriate things like maybe computing the spotlight index or something?
To speed things up day-to-day using GPU power, they'd have to somehow use OpenC/GL for day-to-day stuff. I don't know what things (beyond screen rendering) that would benefit.

Anyway, links would be appriciate. It would be very cool if they've come up with something interesting to use that GPU power for.

 

[theSeb]

Honestly, it's a problem anyway since geekbench doesn't cover performance of your graphics card, it just covers performance on your cpu/memory/disk i/o.

No, it only covers the performance of your CPU and memory.

 

[milo]

This 6 core is the model I'm interested in, with a score about 50% higher than my old 8 core MP it should provide a nice improvement. The huge improvement in single core performance is especially nice. And those aren't even 64 bit scores.

But between the 6-core and 8-core machines, the two unsurprisingly show similar single-core scores of around 3300 in Geekbench 3

Unsurprisingly? Since the 6 core is 3.5 and the 8 is 3.0 (15% higher clock speed), shouldn't the 6 be a bit faster in the single core test? The 8 core does have a bit bigger cache but I would think the clock speed would generally make a bigger difference.

 

[Rocketman]

This will be an awesome machine to run Mathematica on. I wonder how many cores they'll allow to run on the personal license of their software.

I wonder what apps are OpenCL dominators?

 

[WestonHarvey1]

Damn it's going to be fast but overkill for 99% of the people here anyway. A few of these would make a killer render farm.

I don't understand the overkill argument. I've never met a computer that was fast enough for anything. Everything can always be faster.

 

[milo]

Everything can always be faster.

Not typing a text file. Or playing back an mp3 or movie. It's overkill when people are only using a computer for really simple things.

 

[DaveN]

I don't understand the overkill argument. I've never met a computer that was fast enough for anything. Everything can always be faster.

You won't notice the difference when writing a letter, posting to this forum, or loading a web page so why pay for the extra horsepower? Now for rendering scenes, image and video manipulation, yes there is a need. However, how many of us frequently do that?

 

[WestonHarvey1]

You won't notice the difference when writing a letter, posting to this forum, or loading a web page so why pay for the extra horsepower? Now for rendering scenes, image and video manipulation, yes there is a need. However, how many of us frequently do that?

Few people actually do only those things. If you use a computer for any kind of work at all, you always benefit from more horsepower, even if it's just faster application launch times.

"Pros" love to scoff at people who want to edit YouTube videos on a Mac Pro, as if saving several seconds on each render operation couldn't possibly be of any benefit to that person.

I get scoffed at for being "just a software developer", not a "real pro". The creatives really don't understand how bogged down a real enterprise development environment gets.

 

[NovapaX]

We can't decide on the new 12 core Mac Pro or a new coffee machine for the new kitchen.

You seem to have made a mistake
(not actually saying the MP's are expensive, just that it's a lot of money)

 

[WestonHarvey1]

You seem to have made a mistake
(not actually saying the MP's are expensive, just that it's a lot of money)

Ha. But you can easily spend $3k on an espresso maker, like a De'Longhi.

 

[twietee]

Of course it can be overkill. For some folks the quad-core may be even better/faster depending on the program used (assuming faster clock speed).

But if the dualGPU don't magically improve my CPU depending renders this machine won't be anywhere near fast enough for the price. Could probably be even better off buying a rMBP plus 1-3 mini nodes for that money (I won't do that though).

 

[spaz8]

If you search geekbench for aaplj90 there is a 4 core score, but it lists an i7 4770

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=aaplj90

I think its probably pretty close.

Single is - 3742

Multi is -14561

I thought the new maxed out imac (w/i7) scored higher. But it must be 64 vs. 32 bit , or geek2 vs geek3 scores.

It looks like the 12 core is gonna be about 2600 (seems low) - single and 29000 multi. assuming its a 2697.

 

[calpolygraduate]

Can't wait to pick one up to browse macrumors forums with and occasionally watch porn!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[davida]

You'd think with the billions Apple have in the bank that they'd be able to afford the full version of Geekbench.

Perhaps they want to leak it out?

 

[milo]

If you search geekbench for aaplj90 there is a 4 core score, but it lists an i7 4770

The MP quad core is also 3.7 as opposed to that chip at 3.5 so hopefully it will be faster even on the 32 bit. The 12 core is a 2.7 so that will bring down single core performance, we'll have to see to what degree once there are tests on GB 3 and of course 64 bit tests for all models.

Perhaps they want to leak it out?

Leak out lower results as opposed to higher 64 bit ones? Doubtful, if Apple was going to do it intentionally they'd be idiots to leak 32 bit results. These are people leaking on their own, who haven't bought the paid version of GB.

 

[undesign]

If memory serves, Mavericks will also utilise the GPU to aid with processing. I'm very interested to see how this translates to real-world performance, especially on the dual-GPU Mac Pro.

Is there a source for this? I'd like to read more about this. Curious to know how Mavericks would benefit my MacBook Pro 2011 (Sandy Bridge with AMD 6750M)

 

[milo]

Is there a source for this? I'd like to read more about this. Curious to know how Mavericks would benefit my MacBook Pro 2011 (Sandy Bridge with AMD 6750M)

Mavs may enable more options for developers, but for openCL to get used, it requires apps to be optimized for it. There are plenty of optimizations and other good things in 10.9 but it doesn't magically make an app use openCL. In the apps particularly things like iMovie they could use openCL but I wouldn't expect too much, at least not any time soon.

 

[NutsNGum]

Learn to read, it says a third party has released the results.

Perhaps you should try taking some of that great advice of yours, Advice Guy.

It says "A third Mac Pro". As in, 1 of 3.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

The MP quad core is also 3.7 as opposed to that chip at 3.5 so hopefully it will be faster even on the 32 bit. The 12 core is a 2.7 so that will bring down single core performance, we'll have to see to what degree once there are tests on GB 3 and of course 64 bit tests for all models.

Theoretically for the same single threaded workload both the 4-core and 6-core will peak at 3.9ghz. Very curious to see this myself, though.

 

[puckhead193]

Can apple release the dam thing already

 

[jetjaguar]

2k points higher than my 3.46 hex

 

[violst]

I'm a little underwhelmed by those numbers. Hopefully the 64 bit version of geekbench will yield better results.

With those numbers I will definitely need to move up to a minimum of the 8-core version. The 8-core numbers looked much more promising, and will look even better with the 64 bit version of geekbench.

 

[Cory Bauer]

Anyone have any 32-bit Geekbench 3.1.2 scores for the new 3.5Ghz Quad-Core i7 iMac for comparison? Thanks!

 

[staveb]

These machines are going to be blazing fast, and I have to admit that there is something in me that wants to get one just because it's built in America by Americans. USA, USA, USA!

 

[undesign]

Mavs may enable more options for developers, but for openCL to get used, it requires apps to be optimized for it. There are plenty of optimizations and other good things in 10.9 but it doesn't magically make an app use openCL. In the apps particularly things like iMovie they could use openCL but I wouldn't expect too much, at least not any time soon.

What about Photoshop/Illustrator/Indesign?

Any word on those and which version CS5, CS6, etc?