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Hold on I was informed that most people cannot even tell the difference or care for higher refresh rate but Apple is focused to put this in a watch vice iPhone 16e.
Just curious. Who informed you? Macrumors posters? Or some prestigious credentialed think tank?
So is higher refresh rates beneficial or not Apple??
What do MR posters say?
 
Hold on I was informed that most people cannot even tell the difference or care for higher refresh rate but Apple is focused to put this in a watch vice iPhone 16e.

So is higher refresh rates beneficial or not Apple??


It’s for AOD - 1 second refresh.
 
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My Ultra 2 is fine, thank you. I am fortunate to have gotten it before it lost the O2 saturation measurement in the patent fiasco. BP is a nice add on but I have hypertension, on three meds, and I measure my BP regularly at home with great precision, so the add is nice but not relevant to me. I have to assume Apple could increase battery life only at the cost of some features, otherwise it makes no sense.
 
I too would like more battery life, but I don't know how you do that and still provide all of the functions that an Apple Watch does. From the countless articles and videos I've seen about Garmin watches, they don't provide nearly all of the same smartwatch features as an Apple Watch, which is less drain on the battery. Does anyone here know of a battery technology that can accommodate what the Ultra does as a smartwatch AND can provide a week or more of battery life? I'm hopeful that such a thing exists because that would be awesome.
 
I have to assume Apple could increase battery life only at the cost of some features, otherwise it makes no sense.

It blows me away that Apple won't design a hyper sport focused version with more buttons and an insane focus on battery life. For a lot of fitness/outdoor use cases, "way more battery life" is literally required feature #1, #2 and #3
 
I too would like more battery life, but I don't know how you do that and still provide all of the functions that an Apple Watch does. From the countless articles and videos I've seen about Garmin watches, they don't provide nearly all of the same smartwatch features as an Apple Watch, which is less drain on the battery.

Apple should create a special line of Watches to try to capture this part of the market

It's not great to be making only devices that "do everything" at the expense of a feature a lot of people want/need (battery life).
 
Apple should create a special line of Watches to try to capture this part of the market

It's not great to be making only devices that "do everything" at the expense of a feature a lot of people want/need (battery life).
I can't see Apple fracturing the product line even further to do that. I think they'll accept losing some sales to Garmin and other companies rather than taking on the cost of another product that might not sell all that much.
 
I can't see Apple fracturing the product line even further to do that. I think they'll accept losing some sales to Garmin and other companies rather than taking on the cost of another product that might not sell all that much.

I think it's a mistake

When you have a generalist product as the only option, you lose out on benefits on either end of the spectrum of usage needs/desires

It's wild to me that offering a fitness focused option would be positioned as "fracturing the product line"

I think an equally likely fear of theirs is that an option with wildly better battery life would DESTROY sales of the other ones and become a benchmark they can't keep up on with the other devices in the lineup
 
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To be fair, it's the world's best selling watch. It's ticking most boxes for most people.
Not the Ultra? The Series x watches are very popular, but the Ultra is trying to market itself towards athletes and at least in my part of Europe that’s where Garmin shines. It sells okay, but they could’ve done a lot better imo.
 
I think an equally likely fear of theirs is that an option with wildly better battery life would DESTROY sales of the other ones and become a benchmark they can't keep up on with the other devices in the lineup
I doubt that. Wildly better battery life would have to mean sacrificing something else in the other end.
 
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Besides battery life and sat con rest is useless/doesn't change anything really.
 
All the thousands/millions of Garmin users want is a battery that lasts a week of more, like our current Garmin…….. all the fancy hypertension crap is just crap. Decent battery - take my money.
 
Battery life and heath features are what I am looking for before I upgrade, I'm still rocking the Ultra 1, and will not give up the Spo2, I hope they get it worked out, look forward to the next Apple watch.
 
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