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64 bit Firefox on Leopard
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If you believe macs to be inferior, why exactly do you have a Mac and why are you visiting a mac board?
Fair enough. Ars Technica's (I believe) in-depth review of Snow Leopard noted that this was one of the benefits of 64-bit Safari. *shrug*
Firefox 3.7 will be not renamed to 4.0.
And they work already on separate processes.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis
Maybe will we see it inside Firefox 3.7 or later with 4.0, depends on how far it will be. I think it will be ready for Firefox 3.7.
(Similar to 3.6 should have 3.7 a very short development time)
By the way,
Safari (and only on Snow Leopard) is sandboxing only Plug-ins
By the way,
Firefox/Projects/3.7 and 4.0 Theme and UI Revamp/Mac Specific Visual Refresh
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Pr...eme_and_UI_Revamp/Mac_Specific_Visual_Refresh
Firefox/Projects/3.7 and 4.0 Theme and UI Revamp/Mac Specific Visual Refresh
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Pr...eme_and_UI_Revamp/Mac_Specific_Visual_Refresh
So they added 3.7 before FX.next as a second minor update. I was only aware of 3.6 and Fx.Next and I thought they said they were going to pull the 3.1>3.5 again for 3.7>4.0.
Safari = Plug-in sandboxing and Chrome = tab/plugin sandboxing.
Chrome does not currently sandbox plug-ins as according to Google it lead to to many incompatibilities. There's a command line switch to enable plug-in sandboxing though. Don't know if Safari is really sandboxing plug-ins or if it just runs them in their own process (people tend to mix this up).
Because the Mozilla Gecko code is 64bit compatible since December 2009 there are no official 64bit build of Firefox for Mac OS X at the moment (but will come). But you can build your own 64bit version or you can use one of the unofficial builds (e.g. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1514615).
the biggest problem is no plugins work... on only a ~6% performance increase on JS benchmarks...
It will come, but there is absolutely no hurry. Mozilla has plenty of things to do
I'd like to see better Cocoa text widgets, so Ctrl+Cmd+D to invoke the dictionary over words works like Safari! Especially since my favorite Dictionary Addon for Firefox isn't 3.6 compatible.
It will come, but there is absolutely no hurry. Mozilla has plenty of things to do
I'd like to see better Cocoa text widgets, so Ctrl+Cmd+D to invoke the dictionary over words works like Safari! Especially since my favorite Dictionary Addon for Firefox isn't 3.6 compatible.
One problem I see is that even though I've now installed Java 1.6 for my late 2008-era MBP, it apparently will not function in a web browser because Apple decided to make it 64-bit ONLY and no web browser for the Mac is 64-bit, so it apparently cannot use it for anything useful...oh say like to get Pogo.com working properly (both it and Yahoo Games will NOT update the screen properly with 1.5 on either my Intel MBP or my PowerMac 1.8GHz PPC machine so the problem must be Java 1.5 on the Mac (and no it doesn't update properly under Tiger on the PPC Mac either). I was hoping to see if it would work correctly with Java 1.6, but seeing as the browsers have no idea that it's available (all tests sites report 1.5 for the object/applet test), I guess I won't know any time soon. In short, Apple's support for Java is buggy and downright pathetic. I cannot even play a lousy game of Scrabble on Pogo.com in 2010 on 1.2 year old Mac and Apple couldn't give a crap (they're really good at deleting all complaints on their web site, though instead of addressing the problems). Ok, I CAN play a game there if I can get past all the semi-invisible and fully invisible pop-up prompts (which makes the buttons hidden, etc.) to get the game started. Literati on Yahoo will play, but sometimes updates to the screen (like oh say the score) don't update unless you type in the chat window or drag the size corner of the window).
Your issue has nothing to Firefox being 64-bit or not.
On my Macbook Pro, Intel 64-bit, Scrabble on pogo.com works in 64-bit Safari and 32-bit Firefox 3.6 without issue. I played two games as guest on both browsers.
My java version is
Code:
java version "1.6.0_17"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_17-b04-248-10M3025)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.3-b01-101, mixed mode)Java is also a triple fat binary, 32-bit PPC, 32-bit i386, and 64-bit x86_64. One can easily run 32-bit java code in OS X.
Code:
$ file /usr/bin/java
/usr/bin/java: Mach-O universal binary with 3 architectures
/usr/bin/java (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/usr/bin/java (for architecture i386): Mach-O executable i386
/usr/bin/java (for architecture ppc7400): Mach-O executable ppcSafari? Safari 4 that ships with 10.6 is 64-bit by default, though one can easily make it run as 32 bit.
Well, I cannot find any other online references as to why it still shows up as 1.5 in both browsers, although one site says 1.6, but then says 1.5 for object/applet code. I used the Java preference program to prioritize 1.6, but it seems to make no difference. I'm still running regular Leopard on the MBP, not Snow Leopard. Pogo.com does run OK in Safari here (hadn't tried it), but it has the same issue as described with Firefox on both computers. Maybe it's an add-on that's screwing something up?
Java 1.6 is not available for Tiger or PPC Leopard...at least not from Apple. The 1.6 installed for regular Leopard on my MBP only shows a 64-bit version as available. If they have a 32-bit version, then why have they not released it for regular Leopard and/or PPC machines?
64 bit firefox on Leopard
Well, safari is a 64bit browser, go in "about your mac" click on applications on the list and select Safari, on the bottom detailed side it will clearly say if it is or not.
so here is a question for you clever man: Why would Apple undergo changing a browser that doesn't really need to be faster as you say, and not change Final Cut Pro that def. needs to harness all the RAM it can get to render?
I wouldn't be that negative about 64bit apps and software if I were you really....there is a proper browser war out there for faster browsers, haven't you come across that?
Yes that 0-10% on Firefox could perhaps beat safari in performance & reclaim its fame, as for the moment FFirefox is loosing ground, with Opera and Chrome and Safari out there....
So yes, when there is a 64bit Firefox update for us Mac OS X out there I am going to grab it by it's testicles I tell you! ;-)
Well, safari is a 64bit browser, go in "about your mac" click on applications on the list and select Safari, on the bottom detailed side it will clearly say if it is or not.
so here is a question for you clever man: Why would Apple undergo changing a browser that doesn't really need to be faster as you say, and not change Final Cut Pro that def. needs to harness all the RAM it can get to render?
I wouldn't be that negative about 64bit apps and software if I were you really....there is a proper browser war out there for faster browsers, haven't you come across that?
Yes that 0-10% on Firefox could perhaps beat safari in performance & reclaim its fame, as for the moment FFirefox is loosing ground, with Opera and Chrome and Safari out there....
So yes, when there is a 64bit Firefox update for us Mac OS X out there I am going to grab it by it's testicles I tell you! ;-)
...and you quoted and replied to a post from 2007. Way before Safari went 64-bit.
Pay crimsonlung no mind. There is, and always will be, a subset of uneducated PC users that will pay us visits just to try and stir things up.
64-bit Mac Firefox 3.7 alpha build *available*
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.7a5pre.en-US.mac64.dmg
Full listing (of nightly builds, regular, 32-bit builds available as well); http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
I check up on this listing fairly often and ran into the 64-bit build a few nights ago after the alpha 5 became available. It appears the Add-Ons would have to be recompiled because it appears a lot of them don't work.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.7a5pre.en-US.mac64.dmg
Full listing (of nightly builds, regular, 32-bit builds available as well); http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
I check up on this listing fairly often and ran into the 64-bit build a few nights ago after the alpha 5 became available. It appears the Add-Ons would have to be recompiled because it appears a lot of them don't work.