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64GB iPhone and 128GB iPod Touch Possible in 1st Quarter 2010?
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a 128GB touch doesn't seem as big as a 120GB classic...
It's smaller than a 160GB iPod Classic though.
You really think Apple will keep a product that isn't selling just because it was the first of its kind? Apple is a company, not your childhood room in your parents home.
My guess is the Classic stays around for one more update cycle.
At launch, the 128GB model will be much more expensive than the remaining Classic, so there'd still be too much of a price gap to scrap the Classic altogether. Though it would be a bold move to do it now, and I wouldn't put it past Steve
At launch, the 128GB model will be much more expensive than the remaining Classic, so there'd still be too much of a price gap to scrap the Classic altogether. Though it would be a bold move to do it now, and I wouldn't put it past Steve
An 128 GB iPod Touch will obsolete the iPod Classic. We will probably see and EOL of the iPod Classic in September 2010 the latest. I don't see the point of keeping it any further than that. The target market will move on to the iPod Touch. Price could be an initial issue, but I just don't see Apple refreshing the iPod Classic at the annual iPod event in September.
The iPhone 3GS is the last model of that particular design. The new iPhone will be a new design, in all likelihood a smaller case.
My guess is that the new iPhone will be a dual-core ARM design from P.A. Semi. There will probably be additional optimizations and inclusion of circuitry that would normally be handled by separate chips. This system-on-a-chip approach would give Apple a competitive advantage over other designs that use typical off-the-shelf components.
My strong belief is that work done by P.A. Semi engineers will likely be included in future mid-tier hardware (tablet, console, AppleTV derivative). The current x86 architecture does not provide a lot of bang for the buck, so Apple's margins on the AppleTV are unusually low.
Based on Apple's job listing of a CDMA engineer many months ago, I would say that there is a roughly 50-50 chance that the next iPhone is CDMA-compatible. I believe an LTE phone is still a 1.5 (maybe 2.5 depending on the U.S. rollout) years away. I do not believe that releasing a CDMA-GSM phone is a technically insurmountable challenge. My guess is that Verizon's stance on letting Apple have total control over the App Store, branding, etc. might be the greatest barrier to seeing the next iPhone on the Verizon network.
Just pure speculation on my part.
Based on recent history, it is unlikely that Apple Inc. would keep around a poorly-selling obsolete product.
This is not part of a viable business model nor does it increase shareholder value.
Where did you get these figures from? The current going rate of production on the iPhone units is just under $180.00 USD (this final price has been featured here on MacRumours). The NAND chips runs in at but $24.00 USD.
Source: http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?shownews=27485&catid=6
You want microSDXC, which scales from 32 GB to 2 TB. SDHC maxes at 32 GB, so any 64 GB card would have to be SDXC.
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc/
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdhc/
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Yeah, but I don't want them to scrap the Classic, it's what the original iPods look like.My guess is the Classic stays around for one more update cycle.
At launch, the 128GB model will be much more expensive than the remaining Classic, so there'd still be too much of a price gap to scrap the Classic altogether. Though it would be a bold move to do it now, and I wouldn't put it past Steve
The Classic could use upgrades too, maybe a bigger screen.
What size do ou need?
For you 16GB is too big for your iPod Touch. I have a 64GB model which at the present time is 10 times larger than I need for my reason for purchasing one, data, calendar, address book. My music more than fills my 160GB iPod so I haven't put any on yet. I don't get along very well with iTunes. I may load a couple of movies for use on a trip, but my 17" PowerBook does a better job for movies.
Even with my even more modest needs than you have I will be one of the first to purchase a 128 GB model when it comes out. Running spreadsheets on an IPT is not so nice as in one spreadsheet when in landscape mode with the keyboard displayed only shows one line of information. So like you I'd like to see a little larger physical sized model. But then I think that my 2 platter iPod model is very small & thin. But Steve Jobs says that Apple is into small & pretty so that meant that the 2 platter model was too thick. So for me the iPod Touch/iPhone is a little smaller than it should be. Because Apple doesn't like to make more than one model of these items we will probably never see a larger model.
The longest running piece of vaporware would be an Apple Tablet. If & when Apple actually makes one it appears to be too big for what I'd like & too small to replacement my laptop.
Apple only designs (since they do not assemble anything other than a few Intel Mac Pros) their products. For that reason you would think that they would have more different types of models. But to maximize their earnings, not to maximize the numbers of satisfied users, Apple limits their production to as few models as they can.
Here's hoping for some different sized configurations to make more people happy.
For you 16GB is too big for your iPod Touch. I have a 64GB model which at the present time is 10 times larger than I need for my reason for purchasing one, data, calendar, address book. My music more than fills my 160GB iPod so I haven't put any on yet. I don't get along very well with iTunes. I may load a couple of movies for use on a trip, but my 17" PowerBook does a better job for movies.
Even with my even more modest needs than you have I will be one of the first to purchase a 128 GB model when it comes out. Running spreadsheets on an IPT is not so nice as in one spreadsheet when in landscape mode with the keyboard displayed only shows one line of information. So like you I'd like to see a little larger physical sized model. But then I think that my 2 platter iPod model is very small & thin. But Steve Jobs says that Apple is into small & pretty so that meant that the 2 platter model was too thick. So for me the iPod Touch/iPhone is a little smaller than it should be. Because Apple doesn't like to make more than one model of these items we will probably never see a larger model.
The longest running piece of vaporware would be an Apple Tablet. If & when Apple actually makes one it appears to be too big for what I'd like & too small to replacement my laptop.
Apple only designs (since they do not assemble anything other than a few Intel Mac Pros) their products. For that reason you would think that they would have more different types of models. But to maximize their earnings, not to maximize the numbers of satisfied users, Apple limits their production to as few models as they can.
Here's hoping for some different sized configurations to make more people happy.
The Droid is the test!
As far as Verizon is concerned the fact that the Droid is there will be the test to see whether Verizon can do a 180 & allow total use of the Android OS App Store as well as not disable any of the Droid's many useful features. If Verizon passes this test then maybe it will be ready to work with the iPhone. If Verizon was actually offered the iPhone before AT&T this control that you, me & everyone else talks about was probably why we did not see the iPhone on Verizon. For all the bad things that is said about AT&T they were willing to give up this control before the iPhone was a proved hardware/software item.
I am a Verizon User of many years. So if I would purchase an iPhone it would have to work on Verizon.
As far as Verizon is concerned the fact that the Droid is there will be the test to see whether Verizon can do a 180 & allow total use of the Android OS App Store as well as not disable any of the Droid's many useful features. If Verizon passes this test then maybe it will be ready to work with the iPhone. If Verizon was actually offered the iPhone before AT&T this control that you, me & everyone else talks about was probably why we did not see the iPhone on Verizon. For all the bad things that is said about AT&T they were willing to give up this control before the iPhone was a proved hardware/software item.
I am a Verizon User of many years. So if I would purchase an iPhone it would have to work on Verizon.
64GB is all I really want for new iPhone feature. Don't really care when it comes out next year. I'm not eligible for upgrade until March. 128GB iPod Touch would be pretty sweet.
Makes you wonder when we're getting a Mass storage mode or a finder for iPhone OS. That's really the only advantage of the iPod classic. It just seems to make sense with this much space.
What are you going to fill 128 GB with? Music?
What are you going to fill 128 GB with? Music?
Size for Who?
Just remember what is big for you is small for some others. On the other hand what is small for you may be big for others. That is why we need sizes smaller than we think there should be as well as sizes larger than we can see any reason for.
Remember that at one time it was said that there would never be a need for over 640 KB of memory for a computer. Will current models even boot with less than 1 GB of memory. 2, 4, 6 or even more is becoming standard now.
Just remember what is big for you is small for some others. On the other hand what is small for you may be big for others. That is why we need sizes smaller than we think there should be as well as sizes larger than we can see any reason for.
Remember that at one time it was said that there would never be a need for over 640 KB of memory for a computer. Will current models even boot with less than 1 GB of memory. 2, 4, 6 or even more is becoming standard now.
Classic needs to go NAND
True...except for cost...I'm not spending $399 or $499 on a 128GB Touch just so I can use it as a replacement for my 160GB Classic.
If the 128GB Touch premiers at $279 or lower, I will get one. But I've already got a 16GB iPhone with all my crucial songs...my 160GB Classic (almost filled entirely with 192K music) is my jukebox as well as a FAR LONGER battery life.
-Eric
True...except for cost...I'm not spending $399 or $499 on a 128GB Touch just so I can use it as a replacement for my 160GB Classic.
If the 128GB Touch premiers at $279 or lower, I will get one. But I've already got a 16GB iPhone with all my crucial songs...my 160GB Classic (almost filled entirely with 192K music) is my jukebox as well as a FAR LONGER battery life.
-Eric
Yup...my 160GB classic is practically filled...only with music...no videos. 20,000+ songs encoded at 192k.
Ultimately I would like to store lossless on an iPod...but considering an average WAV file is about 7 times larger than a 192k MP3 file, I would need almost 1 Terabyte...or looking at it the other way, my 160GB could hold 7x less music stored as WAV.
Some of us truly have a lot of music. And some of us are audio enthusiasts.
Storage capacities increase every year...$50-$100 drives that are measured in hundreds of GB and single digita TB these days was UNTHINKABLE 10 years...and not just from a technical point of view but from a "who's ever gonna fill it?" point of view.