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6th Generation iPod Tracking For Late 2007? Early 2008?

psychofreak said:
Don't forget speed...although not really a problem on iPods...
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Actually, hard drives do better for speed on larger transfers - on small random reads/writes, flash is better because there's no head movement or rotational latency.

For example, Windows Vista™ can use a USB flash drive as an I/O accelerator: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost )

quote:

"Using ReadyBoost-capable flash memory devices for caching allows Windows Vista to service random disk reads with performance that is typically 80-100 times faster than random reads from traditional hard drives. This caching is applied to all disk content, not just the page file or system DLLs.

Flash devices are typically slower than the hard drive for sequential I/O, so to maximize performance, ReadyBoost includes logic to recognize large, sequential read requests and then allows these requests to be serviced by the hard drive."​
 
does anyone here trully believe that this idea is feasible and likely to come true??
I ask because i have been patiently waiting for this supposed widescreen true-video ipod for quite sometime (6-8 months), and my patience is about to run out. I am a lover of music, and it is becoming unbearable to be without it by my side.
I would like to know if i should get a video iPod now, or wait some 9 months for this update that has has been rumored for almost a year and counting......:confused:
 
I think the 6G iPod will be nothing more then a 5G with a larger screen.

Although I don't see the point of a larger screen. I think Apple should just keep on making 5G's with increasd capacity, and maybe a built in radio or something.
 
We're not ready for flash based yet, IMO.

It's only recently that Nano's have offered the same price/capacity ratio as the iPod Minis. For a 32gb Flash iPod I could probably get an 80gb iPod. Of course you get slimmer designs and better battery life, and I'd never fill a 32gb iPod let alone an 80gb... But not yet.

IMO they should just split the iPod market into 2 - flash ones and HDD. And the wee Shuffle sat somewhere along the line.


I still prefer my iPod Shuffle over my Mini and big iPod :)
 
How do you sync your nike+ account with itunes. I created an account first, not by clicking the link in itunes. later i connect my ipod and opened up iTunes and saw the nike+ tab, clicked it and i see the create my account button, which leads me to the page i already signed up. So i have and account but how do i tell itunes i have it?
 
Cassie said:
Although I don't see the point of a larger screen. I think Apple should just keep on making 5G's with increasd capacity, and maybe a built in radio or something.
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Man, you must be kidding.
The widescreen iPod will probably have a 5" screen in a 16x9 format. This is much larger and better to viewing videos, browse libraries, photos, etc.
Also the new wide - screen might be the same quality as the iPhone that according to some is much sharper than the 5G's screen.
 
gugy said:
I can't stand wait beyond that this Xmas season. Now some people saying will be here by 2008, just makes me cry.

October seems reasonable to me.
5" widescreen, touchscreen UI, 120 gig and price around $400 maybe $500 tops , I am sold.

I don't care for the iPhone because AT&T (Cingular) and the small storage, so I rather buy a widescreen iPod and keep my current phone and carrier. I bet tons of people are on the same boat as I am.
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HERE HERE!! I am on that boat along with many others. Bring me an unlocked iPhone (or at least with Sprint) or a real full screen iPod before I turn 30.
 
MarcelV said:
I think there was another reason. They were aware others were working on competitive NAND based products, and Apple had to make a move. Because there is no place for two pretty identical products in Apple's iPod line (the Mini and Nano were really targetting the same audience), they had not much choice.
Apple was able to enhance their market lead by buying the NAND in very large quantities. Therefore making it hard for others to launch similar players in the market place for more attractive prices. Because others had almost no profit margins, they initially couldn't match the price point, and for sure had no room to make a splash.
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Somewhat correct. Apple didn't buy all of the NAND that the country had to offer. There is no why Apple could buy enough of it to make their competitors short on NAND tech. They did buy a large amount of it so they could make the shuffle and Nano though. And... like said before... Apple did release a player that had a lower capacity than the one it replaced, but not for competitive reasons... for QC reasons. The Mini was dropped way too often (usually by joggers and exercisers that use the mini for its size) and the HDD was way to delicate. The same problem is happening with the 5.5 Gen iPod. People take their Pods back to the store and say "what's wrong" we turn them over and there is a dent in the bottom casing. We say, "You smashed the HDD..." then we chuck the thing in the trash... it's no good.

The Nanos have a much higher life expectancy and are WAY more durable than the full sized iPods would ever be unless they used flash based storage. One main reason for the flash based storage in the iPhone. Don't want to drop a $500 phone and have it ruined because the HDD is smashed.

The second reason is battery life. The mini and iPod had good battery life but once they added that color screen :eek: you get my point. So they opted for the flash based drive that took much less power to run made it smaller with a color screen, improved the battery life, and presto... the mini player of the future with a coolness factor that would make anybody forget about the higher capacity iPod Mini.:cool:
 
Maccus Aurelius said:
A 32GB flash-based iPod sounds great, but that as the cap of the lineup for the 6G would quite simply suck. I have a year old 60GB 5G and it has only a couple of gigs left, and I do access a lot of that content as I have used my iPod daily for the past year of ownership. Right now I think sticking with HDD based machinery is the way to go since it provides the best capacity for the money. A 100GB iPod and perhaps a 40-50GB lower end model would fare much better right now until flash tech gets better and cheaper. An iPod asking for a price similar to the current high end while providing half, or less than half of the capacity would probably not do well.

Right now I'm not sure about the benefits of WiFi. So far the Zune's capabilities are mainly useless because of the crippleware scheme that is DRM. In order for the WiFi to work in an iPod, it has to do so much more.
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Amen. I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've got about 6GB of space left. Up from 5GB. I did some housecleaning on my iPod.
If Apple did release new iPods with such limited storage space I literally would have no other choice but to go somewhere else for my next PMP. Having only a certain % of my music collection is not an option. If it was the case I would have gone with a Nano. I've bitched about this before but such a move is a downgrade, not an upgrade.


As for WIFI. Personally I don't need it, but that's me. I don't need to share my music, I don't need to download it of of iTMS on the fly, and I'm certainly not going to be syncing it across WIFI.
The only wireless that I would be most interested in would be a BlueTooth 2.0, and a set of BT headphones.
 
penter said:
does anyone here trully believe that this idea is feasible and likely to come true??
I ask because i have been patiently waiting for this supposed widescreen true-video ipod for quite sometime (6-8 months), and my patience is about to run out. I am a lover of music, and it is becoming unbearable to be without it by my side.
I would like to know if i should get a video iPod now, or wait some 9 months for this update that has has been rumored for almost a year and counting......:confused:
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(sigh) I am in your boat too man. I want that video iPod my self. Passed up a chance for a free 80GB iPod almost two months ago for that video iPod. :mad:

My fault though. Anyway... I think it is very likely. I would like to have a more durable flash based Pod then one with an amazing capacity. But Apple does need to cater to those that need the space. And the other part of me does want that space too :D

I am crossing my fingers for a flash based Super Pod at 64GB at $400 or so. I will pay for that. Any more and we have a problem. HDD based and we can work something out if there is a new UI and the capacity goes up to 120 or so.
 
Give me WiFi only... AND ONLY... if I can access the ITunes Store from a hotspot and download content from it. Maybe even some PDA stuff like checking my mail, surfing the web and.... NO NO.... this is a music player... ONLY IF I CAN DOWNLOAD FROM THE STORE.

Everything else will be cute and welcomed if it didn't jack the price up. But there is no need for WiFi and sharing music if DRM exists. The Zune's WiFi is a failure because that's all it can do, and if four people on my campus have a Zune I don't know them or don't like what they have what good is it?
 
Maybe they are doing what something similar to what sony is doing with their UX umpc device offering a 32gig nad flash version and a 60gig(i think it is 60gig) version but instead of the 60gig it be the current 80gig or 100gig+ like the Archos 504/704. I think the price of the both Sony devices are similar to that is the only disadvantage and to the average consumer they would think the 80gig since they would not really know much about the 32gig flash model.
 
Big surprise... Apple to put iPhone interface on 6G iPod for the holiday season...

Film at 11.

The moment SJ showed off the iPhone interfact this was a foregone conclusion. I'm not expecting much else to change on what will be the first true Video iPod - Apple have a history of doing "just enough" to stay one step ahead of the others.

Keeping the 6G iPod HD-based is inevitable - the extra capacity is what will differentiat it from the iPhone (so some people will buy both). By waiting until later in the year Apple...

1. Get people who just have to have the inerface to go buy an iPhone (because until it is released the 6G is only a rumor).

2. Get the components into mass production with the iPhone so when they use it on the iPod they can get economy of scale to maximize their margins (and profit).

The iPod has always been the "flag-ship" device. But the real market has been shown to be in the less expensive (and less feature-rich) Mini/Nano/Shuffle. While the full iPod can branch off as a different device, the challenge is what can Apple do to the Nano and Shuffle in the future?

I'm looking forward to the inevitable iPhone Nano (the worlds best selling cell phone) and the killer iPhone Shuffle (you can receive all calls, but can only make calls out to a list of pre-selected speed-dial numbers by tapping the arrow-shape "badge" the correct number of times... ) :D
 
Definitive 200

Anybody think we may get the Beatles on itunes this Tuesday when the Definitive 200 is announced? Steve had Sgt. Pepper's on his iphone and there is a good chance that will be the #1 album on the list. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance...
 
Pah, all you guys complaining about having to wait with only a 5G or a 5.5G iPod make me sick. I've only got a 1Gb, 1G Shuffle to keep me company. I do love it dearly but having to charge it from USB sucks when you're travelling. One day in Manchester, 100 and something miles away from home I ahd to make an hour's trip to the apple store to charge it up on a MacBook for the train journey home...hehehe.

Anyway, enough of that. I want my 6G SuperDuperSnazzyHighCapacityCompletelyScratchResistantUltraWidescreenVideo iPod now dammit.

Apparently, to make it scratch resistant apple are using a unique way to protect it. It's called the iAurora or HaloEffect, which is effectively a force field - stopping anything sharp getting anywhere near it's oh so fragile surface. US Patent no. 1230HAH0I0WISH0789

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Apple need to put the spotlight back on their computers and software.
 
SiliconAddict said:
As for WIFI. Personally I don't need it, but that's me. I don't need to share my music, I don't need to download it of of iTMS on the fly, and I'm certainly not going to be syncing it across WIFI.
The only wireless that I would be most interested in would be a BlueTooth 2.0, and a set of BT headphones.
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In the iPhone WIFI is there for other reasons; like to surf the web, check your email etc when you're in WIFI range.
 
Also,

Get rid of DRM and -consequently- change iTunes so that i don't need to have my entire music library on my PB AND on my iPod. This is so annoying... I want all music on my iPod and not on my PB! :mad:
 
brianus said:
Though prices on flash memory are falling dramatically, they're still nowhere near where they'd need to be to make that practical. Even for 32GB, the price of that much memory would eat up most of the cost of a full-sized iPod. We'll see where things stand at the end of the year, but remember, doubling the memory doubles the cost of that memory.

Ever since I saw that analyst report last month, I have been going with the speculation (apparently now shared by Macrumors) that the current 30gb iPod would be replaced by a 32GB flash model, while the 80GB would be bumped up to a 120GB internal hard drive. The 32GB would of course be thinner and lighter than the HDD-based model; and oddly enough, even though both models are currently HDD-based, the current 30GB is signifcantly thinner than the 80 (why is that??)
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Bring on120GB even 200GB. My 80GB is full of music only and I want double room!!!
 
I wonder (if this is true) whether or not the late 2007/early 2008 release of a true widescreen iPod might be on purpose to allow Apple to gauge the popularity of the iPhone, and forecast the extent to which it might cannibalize the mainstream iPod market.

They may also be waiting for certain technologies to come online ... wild speculation here, but would there be a smaller/mobile version of the Santa Rosa platform in the works combining flash memory with a hard drive to improve battery life and performance?
 
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